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post Feb 16 2012, 10:07 AM

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post Feb 16 2012, 10:20 AM

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Does Ignite affect life steal?

On another note, based on your gameplay, what champions do you think are in need of a buff based on their role?

My thought on several :

Evelynn - Bottom of the barrel. Fun when your roflstomping pubs, but queue dodge material in proper games.

Teemo - Needs a little something to promote his team fight capabilities.

Leona - Almost there as a tank. But fails in the primary role of a tnak, draw fire. While her kit revovles around CCs, she has nothing to draw fire to herself. And she doesn't represent a significant threat level to make the other team want to focus her. All too ignored in higher level play, it's ridiculous to see the opposing champions totally dive past her and she flails her low dmg AA at the squishies and they ignore her too. Maybe her AA applying the Sunlight debuff for her allies to consume might be an option.

Akali - Oh yes, Akali. With the Shen epic buff, she's now the weakest ninja. Nerfs to her, and indirect nerfs to her core items like Gunblade affected her sustain. As of now, other champions perform the assassin role better.



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helo, dfcloud u're here eh... bila mau main skali ni....

Seems like many pro here. hehehe nice to meet you all.


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QUOTE(statikinetic @ Feb 16 2012, 10:20 AM)
Does Ignite affect life steal?
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Ignite affect HP regen and healing effect from skill champs like Mundo who rely on such regen will be heavily affected
Same goes to Fiddle's drain

http://leagueoflegends.wikia.com/wiki/Ignite
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helo, dfcloud u're here eh... bila mau main skali ni....

Seems like many pro here. hehehe nice to meet you all.
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LoL bagus untuk have fun and release tension. lol
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post Feb 16 2012, 02:17 PM

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QUOTE(statikinetic @ Feb 16 2012, 10:20 AM)
Does Ignite affect life steal?

On another note, based on your gameplay, what champions do you think are in need of a buff based on their role?

My thought on several :

Evelynn - Bottom of the barrel. Fun when your roflstomping pubs, but queue dodge material in proper games.

Teemo - Needs a little something to promote his team fight capabilities.

Leona - Almost there as a tank. But fails in the primary role of a tnak, draw fire. While her kit revovles around CCs, she has nothing to draw fire to herself. And she doesn't represent a significant threat level to make the other team want to focus her. All too ignored in higher level play, it's ridiculous to see the opposing champions totally dive past her and she flails her low dmg AA  at the squishies and they ignore her too. Maybe her AA applying the Sunlight debuff for her allies to consume might be an option.

Akali - Oh yes, Akali. With the Shen epic buff, she's now the weakest ninja. Nerfs to her, and indirect nerfs to her core items like Gunblade affected her sustain. As of now, other champions perform the assassin role better.
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er...at my playing level..shes still a force to be reckoned with though...should nerf her more aaahahahh biggrin.gif
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post Feb 16 2012, 03:28 PM

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QUOTE(sangtupperware @ Feb 16 2012, 02:17 PM)
er...at my playing level..shes still a force to be reckoned with though...should nerf her more aaahahahh biggrin.gif
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She's only a force in pubs.
Solution : Oracle or wards. 400 gold totally negates her.

Akali cannot kill in 1 burst, unlike LeBlanc or Morgana. Akali kills you in 2-3 bursts. How does it happen?

1. Shadow Dance, Mark, Auto Attack to trigger Mark, Crescent Slash (Burst 1)
2. Twilight Shroud and wait for cooldown.
3. Shadow Dance, Mark, Auto attack to trigger Mark (Burst 2)
4. Repeat step 2-3.

What are her weakneses?

Step (2). All her nukes are melee range, she has no HP and she can do nothing if all her skills are in CD. Twilight Shroud's invisibility fixes this problem for her. Remove this, and she is a low HP mage sitting within melee range of you with all her spells on CD for 4 secs. A lot of champions she targets can kill her in those 4 secs.


She can heal if I start attacking her with Spell Vamp!

No she can't. Her spell vamp and spell vamp items have been nerfed to hell because of 2 champions, Vladimir and Mordekaiser. The problem isn't Spell Vamp itself, but her Energy pool. She only has a set pool of 200 Energy the entire game. The first burst when she dives in presumably at full health will leave her with only 50 Energy. She only has enough for 1-2 more spells at 2nd burst, nothing more.


Akali is weak against teams who know what to do. Very weak.
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post Feb 16 2012, 03:53 PM

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QUOTE(statikinetic @ Feb 16 2012, 10:20 AM)
Does Ignite affect life steal?

On another note, based on your gameplay, what champions do you think are in need of a buff based on their role?

My thought on several :

Evelynn - Bottom of the barrel. Fun when your roflstomping pubs, but queue dodge material in proper games.

Teemo - Needs a little something to promote his team fight capabilities.

Leona - Almost there as a tank. But fails in the primary role of a tnak, draw fire. While her kit revovles around CCs, she has nothing to draw fire to herself. And she doesn't represent a significant threat level to make the other team want to focus her. All too ignored in higher level play, it's ridiculous to see the opposing champions totally dive past her and she flails her low dmg AA  at the squishies and they ignore her too. Maybe her AA applying the Sunlight debuff for her allies to consume might be an option.

Akali - Oh yes, Akali. With the Shen epic buff, she's now the weakest ninja. Nerfs to her, and indirect nerfs to her core items like Gunblade affected her sustain. As of now, other champions perform the assassin role better.
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Yes on ignite. As for champion that are UP:

Miss Fortune - Most considered as a trash AD, unless fighting at a fit place where she could hit all with her channeling ulti, she's just not as good as other AD.

Dr.Mundo - There's a reason no many play him now. Lack of aggro drawing power as a tank and not really have a way to close in in an instant. Might have potential to be a good bruiser though but I guess even if he has the potential, no one is gonna discover it due to nobody playing him. Oh, an ignite counters him, it's just too easy to counter him. I guess this dude is in my next champion to try.

Evelynn - Agree, the definition of USELESS.

Nunu - Not sure how to improve him but he needs improvement on his late game. He can counter jungle and gank like a boss in early game but other than that, his impact on the game just isn't that great, especially in the latter stage of the game. I understand some champs are built on early game dominance like Pantheon & LeBlanc but Nunu can't snowball to late game. He can probably work well with some special team compo but he doesn't work well in solo queue.

Viktor - I think many consider him as "high risk, low reward" ever since he is released. He technically only have 5 item slots, as 1 of them is his unique item, which is pretty useless by mid game. The high risk low reward is that his learning curve is so f***ing high yet the reward is small because he just don't really provide that much, be it offensive output, CC and just anything else. Need a buff on his overall skill set I guess.

No comment on Teemo, yes on Leona(She will probably stay as an 'unique' support) and not sure on Akali.
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Yes to Viktor, definitely.

Kayle - Needs a small buff to fill whatever role she is supposed to fill. Right now, she IS her ultimate. Needs a little something extra to give her another dimension.


I think Riot is currently working on Evelynn, and has been for quite a while due to constant feedback from the community. Why is it taking so long? Well, what's worse than a totaly useless Evelynn?

An OP Evelynn. Imagine those running around in pubs!
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post Feb 16 2012, 05:47 PM

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QUOTE(PleaseEnterYourName @ Feb 16 2012, 12:47 PM)
LoL bagus untuk have fun and release tension. lol
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? you sure? i though is in reversed...lol..
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QUOTE(Goliath764 @ Feb 16 2012, 03:53 PM)
Nunu - Not sure how to improve him but he needs improvement on his late game. He can counter jungle and gank like a boss in early game but other than that, his impact on the game just isn't that great, especially in the latter stage of the game. I understand some champs are built on early game dominance like Pantheon & LeBlanc but Nunu can't snowball to late game. He can probably work well with some special team compo but he doesn't work well in solo queue.
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Most Nunu junglin' late game only focus on slowing the enemy down and soak damage

His E and R is passable to make people think twice before teamfight and W steroid on AD carry is quite efficient
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nunu? can only jungle. other than that is useless if the other team got disabler. hehehehe.


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1)TF
2)Noc
3)Sejuani
4)Fizz
5)Naruto
6)Vladimir
7)Lesin
8)beruk
9)volibear
10)Malzahar


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post Feb 16 2012, 06:48 PM

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QUOTE(PleaseEnterYourName @ Feb 16 2012, 06:34 PM)
nunu? can only jungle. other than that is useless if the other team got disabler. hehehehe.

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Thats the point
stun me or die giving your carries"Dont have cc for free card"

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QUOTE(bobohead1988 @ Feb 16 2012, 06:48 PM)
Thats the point
stun me or die giving your carries"Dont have cc for free card"
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I agree with this.

That's Nunu's threat card as a tank, and helps him perform his role. It makes opponents focus on him. Dumb Nunus start off every team fight running in and trying to ult. Smarter ones run in and tank, tank and tank some more and the opponents don't dare use all their CCs. It's like he's never going to ult and when they can't hold it anymore and fling the CCs out, thats when the ult hits like a truck when everyone is at half life and their CCs are on CD.
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Malzahar ulti is easy to be countered by cleanse and QSS...which is in SEA almost nobody buy or pick it up

Hue Hue Hue Hue Hue
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QUOTE(wairai @ Feb 16 2012, 07:44 PM)
Malzahar ulti is easy to be countered by cleanse and QSS...which is in SEA almost nobody buy or pick it up

Hue Hue Hue Hue Hue
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for me malzahar isnt a pure AP hero, i play malzahar as a supporter, mal only need little AP to kill. I usually make mal tanky.. In team fight, when all ppl wan ulti malzahar, then thats the time when your team gona win.
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QUOTE(Goliath764 @ Feb 16 2012, 03:53 PM)
Yes on ignite. As for champion that are UP:

Miss Fortune - Most considered as a trash AD, unless fighting at a fit place where she could hit all with her channeling ulti, she's just not as good as other AD.

Dr.Mundo - There's a reason no many play him now. Lack of aggro drawing power as a tank and not really have a way to close in in an instant. Might have potential to be a good bruiser though but I guess even if he has the potential, no one is gonna discover it due to nobody playing him. Oh, an ignite counters him, it's just too easy to counter him. I guess this dude is in my next champion to try.

Evelynn - Agree, the definition of USELESS.

Nunu - Not sure how to improve him but he needs improvement on his late game. He can counter jungle and gank like a boss in early game but other than that, his impact on the game just isn't that great, especially in the latter stage of the game. I understand some champs are built on early game dominance like Pantheon & LeBlanc but Nunu can't snowball to late game. He can probably work well with some special team compo but he doesn't work well in solo queue.

Viktor - I think many consider him as "high risk, low reward" ever since he is released. He technically only have 5 item slots, as 1 of them is his unique item, which is pretty useless by mid game. The high risk low reward is that his learning curve is so f***ing high yet the reward is small because he just don't really provide that much, be it offensive output, CC and just anything else. Need a buff on his overall skill set I guess.

No comment on Teemo, yes on Leona(She will probably stay as an 'unique' support) and not sure on Akali.
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You'll be surprised how current teams see MF. She's been picked back up by pros recently as a strong laner.
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QUOTE(statikinetic @ Feb 16 2012, 04:22 PM)
Yes to Viktor, definitely.

Kayle - Needs a small buff to fill whatever role she is supposed to fill. Right now, she IS her ultimate. Needs a little something extra to give her another dimension.
I think Riot is currently working on Evelynn, and has been for quite a while due to constant feedback from the community. Why is it taking so long? Well, what's worse than a totaly useless Evelynn?

An OP Evelynn. Imagine those running around in pubs!
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Stealth rework is dangerous if they failed and made it OP because not only Evelynn will be OP, Twitch and Shaco will too. 3 champions being super OP really is a big deal.

QUOTE(statikinetic @ Feb 16 2012, 07:06 PM)
I agree with this.

That's Nunu's threat card as a tank, and helps him perform his role. It makes opponents focus on him. Dumb Nunus start off every team fight running in and trying to ult. Smarter ones run in and tank, tank and tank some more and the opponents don't dare use all their CCs. It's like he's never going to ult and when they can't hold it anymore and fling the CCs out, thats when the ult hits like a truck when everyone is at half life and their CCs are on CD.
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Hmm good point, I guess I just never see a good Nunu yet. Finding a good Nunu in SEA is pretty much just like finding a flower garden in desert I guess.

QUOTE(Clueless Sod @ Feb 16 2012, 11:27 PM)
You'll be surprised how current teams see MF. She's been picked back up by pros recently as a strong laner.
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Yeah, I know they are picking MF up now, just waiting to see if MF is truly that good or what.
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QUOTE(PleaseEnterYourName @ Feb 16 2012, 06:34 PM)
nunu? can only jungle. other than that is useless if the other team got disabler. hehehehe.
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Actually AP nunu top lane is very nasty. Try it biggrin.gif I just watched a stream where a 2.3k ELO player got crushed by top lane nunu.

Nunu jungle is too slow now sad.gif

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