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insaint708
post Sep 6 2011, 04:14 PM

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QUOTE(David83 @ Sep 6 2011, 01:06 AM)
At current weak economic outlook, I'll try to bring down my average unit cost for PAIF, PSEASF and PSMALLCAP if I have extra cash on hand.

I'll try my best to buy an Australia fund from CIMB since it's under promotion on 2% SC. I always wanted to buy an Australian fund.
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How about the new fund, is it worth?
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post Sep 6 2011, 04:19 PM

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Guise, totally new to investment. Had the opportunity to invest in psmallcap when one of friend told me to, since it seemed to be long term, I threw in whatever extra cash I had and told myself to forget about it until it rolls some decent dough.

But... if anyone takes a look, things has taken a rather sharp turn eh? I have no intention of letting the fund go now, but does anyone has a clue when will it stop dipping? Also, would appreciate it if someone pointed me to a decent site to read more about how these fund actually work and/or how to look for other funds to invest in.
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post Sep 6 2011, 04:21 PM

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QUOTE(insaint708 @ Sep 6 2011, 04:14 PM)
How about the new fund, is it worth?
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Not interested with the 3 new funds since they're under PB series under Public Bank.

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post Sep 6 2011, 04:22 PM

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Can anyone tell me what is a benchmark and what effects it has when I am looking at a fund? for example i was looking at Q2 fund review and there is always a fund(PSF for example) total return and a benchmark total return, so how do one compare these two percentage?

p.s. still "studying" UT, still noob icon_rolleyes.gif
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post Sep 6 2011, 04:25 PM

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QUOTE(cashzz @ Sep 6 2011, 04:22 PM)
Can anyone tell me what is a benchmark and what effects it has when I am looking at a fund? for example i was looking at Q2 fund review and there is always a fund(PSF for example) total return and a benchmark total return, so how do one compare these two percentage?

p.s. still "studying" UT, still noob  icon_rolleyes.gif
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Benchmark is just a reference on how good a particular fund perform. It doesn't really indicate anything since it's for comparison.

What concerns investors would be NAV appreciation.
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post Sep 6 2011, 04:32 PM

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QUOTE(Shenyang @ Sep 6 2011, 04:19 PM)
Guise, totally new to investment. Had the opportunity to invest in psmallcap when one of friend told me to, since it seemed to be long term, I threw in whatever extra cash I had and told myself to forget about it until it rolls some decent dough.

But... if anyone takes a look, things has taken a rather sharp turn eh? I have no intention of letting the fund go now, but does anyone has a clue when will it stop dipping? Also, would appreciate it if someone pointed me to a decent site to read more about how these fund actually work and/or how to look for other funds to invest in.
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u can switch to bond fund for time being, then switch back to equity fund when the market recover, pls don't ask, when it will be as nobody knows.

or, just leave it since u r focusing on long term, it will recover back.
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post Sep 6 2011, 04:34 PM

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QUOTE(David83 @ Sep 6 2011, 04:25 PM)
Benchmark is just a reference on how good a particular fund perform. It doesn't really indicate anything since it's for comparison.

What concerns investors would be NAV appreciation.
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So the higher the benchmark the better the fund is performing? most of the funds i see have their total return higher than the benchmark total return, so do this indicate anything? and for NAV appreciation, it is just by looking at whether the NAV increases in every year?
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post Sep 6 2011, 04:39 PM

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QUOTE(cashzz @ Sep 6 2011, 04:34 PM)
So the higher the benchmark the better the fund is performing? most of the funds i see have their total return higher than the benchmark total return, so do this indicate anything? and for NAV appreciation, it is just by looking at whether the NAV increases in every year?
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the fund must be better perfom than becnhmark.
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post Sep 6 2011, 04:42 PM

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QUOTE(kparam77 @ Sep 6 2011, 04:32 PM)
u can switch to bond fund for time being, then switch back to equity fund when the market recover, pls don't ask, when it will be as nobody knows.

or, just leave it since u r focusing on long term, it will recover back.
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Cheers dude, looks like you've got all your links at your signature!
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post Sep 6 2011, 04:52 PM

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QUOTE(David83 @ Sep 6 2011, 04:21 PM)
Not interested with the 3 new funds since they're under PB series under Public Bank.
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PB series under Public Bank not performing?
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QUOTE(David83 @ Sep 6 2011, 04:21 PM)
Not interested with the 3 new funds since they're under PB series under Public Bank.
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i supposed the bonds from PB are doing quite well..
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Yalo, especially PB Islamic Bond.
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post Sep 6 2011, 09:56 PM

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Has anyone used Public Mutual's e-Distribution before? They started bank in the distribution payout directly to our bank accounts for those who have registered for it, instead of sending us a cheque.

My question: How long does it take for Public Mutual to bank in the $? Assuming I am receiving the PSMALLCAP distribution.
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post Sep 6 2011, 10:02 PM

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SC=5.5%
www.bloomberg.com/apps/quote?ticker=KLFSCAP:MK

SC=2%
www.bloomberg.com/apps/quote?ticker=KUTNETF:MK


http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/quote?ticker=PUBISBN:MK

PB bond alternative

www.bloomberg.com/apps/quote?ticker=AMDYMIC:MK

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post Sep 6 2011, 10:24 PM

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Hi all,

Newbie in UT blush.gif just would like to know the following:
1) each fund has their own 'financial year/period-ended', am I right?
a) does it means the bond fund will give distribution yearly after the 'financial year/period-ended'? If the ' 'financial year/period-ended' of a bond fund is on Dec 31, we buy the fund on Dec 1, are we able to enjoy the 'distribution' immediately OR need to wait for another year?
b) for a equity fund also has its 'financial year/period-ended', distribution is incidental, am I right?

2) how to check the fund's initial offer NAV price? Highest/lowest NAV price in the past... can we find out?

Thanks in advance.

This post has been edited by lowyat2011: Sep 6 2011, 10:25 PM
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post Sep 6 2011, 10:42 PM

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QUOTE(insaint708 @ Sep 6 2011, 04:52 PM)
PB series under Public Bank not performing?
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not because of not performing, it's just that agent get nothing from selling PB series funds.
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QUOTE(lowyat2011 @ Sep 6 2011, 10:24 PM)
Hi all,

Newbie in UT  blush.gif just would like to know the following:
1) each fund has their own 'financial year/period-ended', am I right? YES
a) does it means the bond fund will give distribution yearly after the  'financial year/period-ended'? If the ' 'financial year/period-ended' of a bond fund is on Dec 31, we buy the fund on Dec 1, are we able to enjoy the 'distribution' immediately OR need to wait for another year? Immediately
b) for a equity fund also has its 'financial year/period-ended', distribution is incidental, am I right? Depends on its distribution policy. Check its prospectus. Most of them are incidental.

2) how to check the fund's initial offer NAV price? Highest/lowest NAV price in the past... can we find out? Annual report, Fund performance graph and guessing. Most of the equity funds initial NAV are 0.2500 and bond/money market funds are 1.0000

Thanks in advance.
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1) each fund has their own 'financial year/period-ended', am I right? YES
a) does it means the bond fund will give distribution yearly after the 'financial year/period-ended'? If the ' 'financial year/period-ended' of a bond fund is on Dec 31, we buy the fund on Dec 1, are we able to enjoy the 'distribution' immediately OR need to wait for another year? Immediately
b) for a equity fund also has its 'financial year/period-ended', distribution is incidental, am I right? Depends on its distribution policy. Check its prospectus. Most of them are incidental.

2) how to check the fund's initial offer NAV price? Highest/lowest NAV price in the past... can we find out? Highest and lowest NAV can be grabbed from fund annual report and Fund performance graph (from the website). While for the initial NAV, it can be guessed, most of the equity funds initial NAV are 0.2500 and bond/money market funds are 1.0000

This post has been edited by David83: Sep 7 2011, 07:35 AM
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post Sep 7 2011, 10:42 AM

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QUOTE(David83 @ Sep 6 2011, 08:44 AM)
VCA = value cost averaging
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Noted...thanks...



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post Sep 7 2011, 10:47 AM

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totally earn nothing meh ?
not even 0.25%?

QUOTE(cheahcw2003 @ Sep 6 2011, 10:42 PM)
not because of not performing, it's just that agent get nothing from selling PB series funds.
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post Sep 7 2011, 11:08 AM

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QUOTE(kevyeoh @ Sep 7 2011, 10:47 AM)
totally earn nothing meh ?
not even 0.25%?
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ya..0%.

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