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kimimaro_kun
post Feb 12 2012, 08:13 PM

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QUOTE(kurangak @ Feb 12 2012, 07:21 PM)
something like this
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QUOTE(kurangak @ Feb 12 2012, 07:21 PM)
my aquarium temp now is around 27-28 deg C, how low can i lower my temp using a cpu fan, n will my shrimp be able to thrive in it?
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have to ask sifu ciohbu for that

QUOTE(kurangak @ Feb 12 2012, 07:21 PM)
btw usermode-san, ur 2nd 1.5ft tank is really beautiful.i believe u've made a video of it pearling in utube, rite?  shocking.gif  drool.gif  shocking.gif  drool.gif
thanx sifus!
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thx for that..
abg jawa, ni bukan noob punye keje whistling.gif
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post Feb 12 2012, 09:23 PM

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QUOTE(kurangak @ Feb 12 2012, 07:21 PM)
something like this

- i believe there's people in MAC and here done this. i am not good in this kind of thing, so cant advice much.

QUOTE(kurangak @ Feb 12 2012, 07:21 PM)
let say im doing it in 5.5L mineral water bottle. how long will it lasts?

- that's like engine oil bottle shocking.gif i never saw such big bottle DIY Co2 before ... anyway, last time my 2 x 1l coke bottle co2 lasts me about 3-4 days only. LOL!!!... sweat.gif

QUOTE(kurangak @ Feb 12 2012, 07:21 PM)
my aquarium temp now is around 27-28 deg C, how low can i lower my temp using a cpu fan, n will my shrimp be able to thrive in it?

- the most u can get is 26C and if you're lucky during rainy days perhaps, can get to 25C.

QUOTE(kurangak @ Feb 12 2012, 07:21 PM)
what is the best for carpet-like foreground plant if im dosing seachem excel or api co2 booster only, no CO2 (this two product got glutaraldehyde inside it rite? wont it kill the beneficial bacteria? just wondering) some say glosso, some say HC, im confused.

- here's the thing... both glosso and HC to me considered a medium to high-lights plant. with more lights, plants requires more Co2 for photosynthesize. without Co2 but high lights, high chances you'll trigger GSA or greenwater and maybe more other algae will come with other nutrients u dose.
- both plant is not suitable for low-tech tank IMO.
- Without sufficient lights on the other hand (if you try to balance ur tank without co2), glosso might grow tall instead of carpetting and HC might melt before new shoots came out especially in the initial stage of planting.
- you can opt for Elatine Gratioloides, Marsilea Hirsuta or Lileopsis. They might grow slow, but it makes a good low-tech carpets.

QUOTE(kurangak @ Feb 12 2012, 07:21 PM)
btw usermode-san, ur 2nd 1.5ft tank is really beautiful.i believe u've made a video of it pearling in utube, rite?  shocking.gif  drool.gif  shocking.gif  drool.gif

- thanks... yes, i've uploaded its video in youtube.

QUOTE(kurangak @ Feb 12 2012, 07:21 PM)
sorry for asking alot of question. ive read alot of articles in the internet, just that the more i read, the more confused i became  rclxub.gif  rclxub.gif

- hahaha...!! even i also having that problem still. that's why i decided to just go on with what i believe after i read, then learn from experience myself.


QUOTE(kimimaro_kun @ Feb 12 2012, 08:13 PM)
abg jawa, ni bukan noob punye keje  whistling.gif
bukan expert juge... masih belajar dan berkongsi ape yang aku tau dari tank-tank aku yang 'hantam' aje tu. XD
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post Feb 12 2012, 09:25 PM

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QUOTE(kimimaro_kun @ Feb 12 2012, 12:36 PM)
huhu... couldnt see your co2 line.
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for moss and fern, i just need to dose them with nutrient, enough??
cant wait to get mine from sifu sisaiko

O/T : me myself not a Jawa, but living here since tadika make me a tempe lover LOL
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bro im no sifu, perhaps after u got ur xs to mac u able to know who the real sifu are
plus u r lucky u r in jb cos top aquascapers r from there huhu


Added on February 12, 2012, 9:58 pm
QUOTE(kurangak @ Feb 12 2012, 03:26 )
1. i hav 1.5ft tank, im currently using eheim liberty 200 HOB filter, it the filter any good?

2.a) what is the temperament of Hong Kong lobster?
b) can it be in the same tank as shrimps or tetra?
c) is it hard to be keep?

3. im planning to do a diy co2. is it hard to be done?is it any good?

4. im planning to do a diy peltier cooler. is it do-able? anybody in this forum has any success in doing it?

4. how to treat thread algae issue?anybody has any experience?

5. let say im rescaping my tank, can i reuse my ADA substrate/top it up with same kind of substrate?
dude kurengak welcome
try to answer some q

1.no issue n depend what scape u want to, plus saw my fren using it for 2ft
n of cos the bigger the filter the better, its also minimize ur periodically maintenance task

4.algae q
just keep this in mind, cos this told by ah yee to me
ah yee is the towkey of na ss19 subang btw, u main pokok u takut algae ke? ? huhu
algae is good, is part of learning process of this hobby
i forgot the exact word from world reknowned aquascaper cliff hui, algae is trigger for us, if its exist in our tank, something is not right

5. substrate or soil
soil can easyly topup
substrate depend usually bacter 100, penac w n clear super fine enough
but if u took out all soil u can add this 5 powders
even amano master said this in kl 2010, is these 5 powders is a must? no. its for who want to see faster result, or in orther words, if u not patience huhu but i guess patience is the keyword of this hobby

oot im also luv tempe, especially goreng one with sambal kicap huhu

This post has been edited by sisaiko: Feb 12 2012, 11:22 PM
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post Feb 12 2012, 09:58 PM

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QUOTE(sisaiko @ Feb 12 2012, 09:25 PM)
bro im no sifu, perhaps after u got ur xs to mac u able to know who the real sifu are
plus u r lucky u r in jb cos top aquascapers r from there huhu
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but.. but.. i still didnt get mail from them..
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duhh.. like i'm gonna meet them with my current noob..
unless they willing to throw away their stuff FOC tongue.gif


sisaiko,
aku paham.. nanti aku belanja la ko makan tempe.

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post Feb 12 2012, 10:09 PM

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QUOTE("sisaiko")
algae is trigger for us, if its exist in our tank, something is not right

- i am sooooooooo agree with this. i dont have any test kit (even i dont have dropchecker). plants, algae and fishes are my test kit. LMAO!! tongue.gif
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post Feb 12 2012, 10:14 PM

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QUOTE(usermode @ Feb 12 2012, 10:09 PM)
QUOTE("sisaiko")
algae is trigger for us, if its exist in our tank, something is not right

- i am sooooooooo agree with this. i dont have any test kit (even i dont have dropchecker). plants, algae and fishes are my test kit. LMAO!! tongue.gif
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one can not claim to stand before Mother Nature." - Takashi Amano


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post Feb 12 2012, 10:45 PM

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oi oi oi.... not as lab rat lah.. XD
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post Feb 13 2012, 12:09 AM

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dear Cfus,

1. what test kits do u use? any recommendations?

2. fertilizers?any recommendations?

3.a) what kind of lighting do u suggest for 1.5' tank?
b) im currently using 11w+11w pl-s daylight bulb. (kinda DIY) is it enough?
c) what category do it fell into? low? medium? high? do i need CO2 injection with that?
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post Feb 13 2012, 09:37 AM

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QUOTE(kurangak @ Feb 13 2012, 12:09 AM)
3.a) what kind of lighting do u suggest for 1.5' tank?
b) im currently using 11w+11w pl-s daylight bulb. (kinda DIY) is it enough?
c) what category do it fell into? low? medium? high? do i need CO2 injection with that?
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better list down 1st what plant u choose.
cause all plant got a different needs
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post Feb 13 2012, 11:04 AM

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[quote=kimimaro_kun,Feb 10 2012, 11:25 AM]thx sifus..  notworthy.gif

btw, this is my tank.. a nano tank as an experience for my planted aqua.

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nice background wallpaper. hehe..
self shot or buying from anywhere?

hey. talk about tank background 'wallpaper', how can i turn those wallpaper to 3d image?
looks so cool. haha..

hm..since im free now, gonna setup a new tank.. dont have any idea for theme yet. low budget setup. haha rclxub.gif


Added on February 13, 2012, 11:23 am[quote=kimimaro_kun,Feb 12 2012, 10:14 PM]
- i am sooooooooo agree with this. i dont have any test kit (even i dont have dropchecker). plants, algae and fishes are my test kit. LMAO!! tongue.gif
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animal tester detected!!!
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animal abuse!! report to ISA!! hahaha drool.gif

[quote=kurangak,Feb 13 2012, 12:09 AM]
dear Cfus,

1. what test kits do u use? any recommendations?

2. fertilizers?any recommendations?

3.a) what kind of lighting do u suggest for 1.5' tank?
b) im currently using 11w+11w pl-s daylight bulb. (kinda DIY) is it enough?
c) what category do it fell into? low? medium? high? do i need CO2 injection with that?
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what kind of test kits u need, depend on several factor too. but mostly, ph test kit is recommended. some fish require more attention when adding in a community tank. try API HIGH RANGE pH TEST KIT.


Feetilizers? if already setup a tank + have substrate..

1) if u dont mind to rescape your tank, then get set of ADA fertilizer : bacter 100, turmaline bc, clear super, penac w + p, etc. quantity, depend on size of you tank.

2) if u lazy enough, go buy multi bottom or iron bottom. can get them as low as rm 3.30. put it in your substrate. hahaha

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post Feb 13 2012, 11:29 AM

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QUOTE(shinshishio @ Feb 13 2012, 11:04 AM)
animal abuse!! report to ISA!! hahaha  drool.gif
ISA been abolished... XD

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post Feb 13 2012, 11:52 AM

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[quote=shinshishio,Feb 13 2012, 11:04 AM]
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bout the wallpaper, it came together with the tank.. wait, u r not talking bout the DW right??
edit: WTH happen with the quote??

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post Feb 13 2012, 11:56 AM

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DW?
ER...sorry..winter season turn my head like a washing machine.
what is DW?

=_=

I FORGOT..LOL


Added on February 13, 2012, 11:59 am
QUOTE(usermode @ Feb 13 2012, 11:29 AM)
ISA been abolished... XD
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abolished? what is abolished? damn cold-head-winter-effect

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post Feb 13 2012, 12:22 PM

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QUOTE(shinshishio @ Feb 13 2012, 11:56 AM)
DW?
ER...sorry..winter season turn my head like a washing machine.
what is DW?

=_=

I FORGOT..LOL


Added on February 13, 2012, 11:59 am
abolished? what is abolished? damn cold-head-winter-effect

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DW as in DriftWood

where are u now btw?
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post Feb 13 2012, 12:39 PM

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oh. DW. haha..
im in russia. why?
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post Feb 13 2012, 05:23 PM

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-20 to -35 in moscow rite? damn cold i know...if u walk out on the street, even ur snot can turn into ice lol...

btw usermode-san... can u show me what kind of lighting u had for ur 1.5' tank? please... tongue.gif

edit :- my glosso is melting cry.gif been planting it for 10 days now... but funny coz some of it come out new 'pucuk' already, any idea how to control dis melting? im scared later all melt... TT_TT

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so far i got only glosso in my tank...no fish too...

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QUOTE(korean_girlsclub @ Feb 11 2012, 04:45 PM)
what kind of example u give like drink longkang water find food in dustbin ....  notworthy.gif  notworthy.gif

i still give my fish food (not from dustbin), on water filter (RM20), topup water (not longkang water) test the water parameter (care water quality) and on the light for my plants (let them photosynthesis and growth) ... im sure they are happy coz plants are growing n thriving, fishes and shrimps are spawning frequently. Do you?
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ehe somehow i like the way you manage it, its not being cheap but adequately care for living stuff without overspend, each to their own i guess.

btw can pm me your whoe setup and cost? i want to enjoy it not overcare it, thanksss smile.gif

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QUOTE(shinshishio @ Feb 13 2012, 11:56 AM)
abolished? what is abolished? damn cold-head-winter-effect

- means ur dearest PM Najib already said it is no more and close down on last year Malaysia Day... hahahaha!!! (but just say only to abolished, last December already put in 12 more new people. mcb).


QUOTE(kurangak @ Feb 13 2012, 05:23 PM)
-20 to -35 in moscow rite? damn cold i know...if u walk out on the street, even ur snot can turn into ice lol...

btw usermode-san... can u show me what kind of lighting u had for ur 1.5' tank? please... tongue.gif

edit :- my glosso is melting  cry.gif been planting it for 10 days now... but funny coz some of it come out new 'pucuk' already, any idea how to control dis melting? im scared later all melt... TT_TT
so far i got only glosso in my tank...no fish too...
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- my 1.5ft tank was used as my 'playground' tank. not as display tank. so i put 2 x 1.5ft side by side and use 2 x 3ft lights (4 x 36W). basically each tank is receiving 72W.
- assuming u plant ur glosso in a right way in the first place, ur glosso is melting most probably because of the conversion from emersed to submerged. if it totally melted, ur new leaf also will melt as well (or u wont even get any 'pucuk'). during this initial stage, pay close attention to ur tank and hopefully u managed to have more 'pucuk' before the old leaves dead or else, say good bye to ur glosso. LOL!!!
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QUOTE(usermode @ Feb 13 2012, 10:02 PM)
- my 1.5ft tank was used as my 'playground' tank. not as display tank. so i put 2 x 1.5ft side by side and use 2 x 3ft lights (4 x 36W). basically each tank is receiving 72W.
- assuming u plant ur glosso in a right way in the first place, ur glosso is melting most probably because of the conversion from emersed to submerged. if it totally melted, ur new leaf also will melt as well (or u wont even get any 'pucuk'). during this initial stage, pay close attention to ur tank and hopefully u managed to have more 'pucuk' before the old leaves dead or else, say good bye to ur glosso. LOL!!!
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So what should i do? Cut those melting leaves? Leave it be? Should i do water change? How frequent? Sry if i ask too much..i wanna learn but duwan to experiment on my beloved glosso...kinda feel attached to them already...watching them reviving from semi dead state, sprouting new leaf, n then come this melting issue... T_T

Btw where did u all get ur deco stones? U guys bought it?

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QUOTE(kurangak @ Feb 13 2012, 11:38 PM)
So what should i do? Cut those melting leaves? Leave it be? Should i do water change? How frequent? Sry if i ask too much..i wanna learn but duwan to experiment on my beloved glosso...kinda feel attached to them already...watching them reviving from semi dead state, sprouting new leaf, n then come this melting issue... T_T

Btw where did u all get ur deco stones? U guys bought it?
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- this is just me la... (not a pro advise.. just personal way), i'd leave it and just take care of the tank without touching it. LOL!!! 10 days is just too early to know anyway. i'd leave it at least 2 weeks minimum and if after that still no new growth and only melting keep going on, i'd plant new one (and of course figuring out what did i do wrong like increasing co2, lightings, etc). LOL!!!
- and yes... most of us bought the stones. very few that are super hardcore would go out in the nature and find it themselves, then treat the stones/woods. it's just superbly ma fan.. sweat.gif

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