QUOTE(lklatmy @ Apr 4 2006, 10:14 AM)
huge rewards comes with huge risk,you had to accept it.Find a way to stay away from rotten stocks.
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Apr 4 2006, 10:28 AM
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Apr 4 2006, 11:47 AM
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QUOTE(mobiusone @ Apr 4 2006, 10:28 AM) Yes, indeed, if u cant take the risk, then it's better for u not to invest. but in swisscash, your risk is actually getting lower and lower. The time u got back your 10%, your risk remain 90% and the time u got back 50%, your risk will left another 50.If it is a scam, do u think they will pay you that efficient? To be frankly, the 1st time i withdraw the return, i felt so surprised as the process is really fast. It only takes me 2 business day for the money to bank into my account. Yes, u may find alot of malaysian and singaporean investors flooded the page. It is because for the south east asia region, it grows from sg and to malaysia. i have another point. okie, to open an account in bank as a company, Im sure that the bank will investigate the background of the company right? If swisscash doesnt exist, why did the bank approve? Swisscash is making millions and wont the bank feel weird if its doesnt exists? think about it. Swisscash is one of the project under swissmutualfunds. Think yourself as the creator of this "scammer", do u think u will make another professional website like swissmutualfunds did, and at the same time manages swisscash? do u think it's possible for them to maintain it? They even have to manages database, investing and updating the performance of the company to us at the same time. It merely impossible for a group of 5 to manages such a thing. Swiss mutual funds registered the company back in 1948. My upline who is owns a company in HK told me about this. When he wanted to register his company last year, he had to register as richmound 2005. He cannot backdate the year. Our CFO, michael mansfield had actually gave a talk to the sg team, and that's why the sg team is so confident in swisscash. again, if u see alot of swisscash website with those dreamkaya team, they are actually some malaysian or sg swisscash group. well, i can open one website to promote swisscash too right? Sometimes when things turn out to be good, people somehow will think that it is impossible. But in fact, what swisscash offer is true. My upline had already get more than 300% from her return within one year. she invested 10K usd and had got back about 80K usd This post has been edited by Gravity: Apr 4 2006, 11:48 AM |
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Apr 4 2006, 12:58 PM
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investment in physical gold anyone?
i wont be taking any swisscash risk. but gold price will just increace expecially when cash starts to devalue. any thoughts? |
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Apr 4 2006, 04:21 PM
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Hmm, about this Swisscash thing, why not someone post up the confirmed link to the parent body (Swiss Mutual Funds?) so that me or someone else can shoot them an email and enquire about Swisscash?
This way we can clear this problem once and for all. |
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Apr 4 2006, 04:35 PM
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QUOTE(Gravity @ Apr 4 2006, 11:47 AM) Our CFO, michael mansfield had actually gave a talk to the sg team, and that's why the sg team is so confident in swisscash. again, if u see alot of swisscash website with those dreamkaya team, they are actually some malaysian or sg swisscash group. well, i can open one website to promote swisscash too right? Sometimes when things turn out to be good, people somehow will think that it is impossible. But in fact, what swisscash offer is true. My upline had already get more than 300% from her return within one year. she invested 10K usd and had got back about 80K usd Does that means you admit that you work for Swisscash?? Dreamer |
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Apr 4 2006, 06:00 PM
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QUOTE(dreamer101 @ Apr 4 2006, 04:35 PM) Well, of course. i had told about it in the previous page right? If i wasn't in swisscash, will it be possible for me to know and understand swisscash now? if u dont try, u never know..for those who wan to check out the mothersite ( swissmutualfund) u can find the link in swisscash.biz This post has been edited by Gravity: Apr 4 2006, 06:03 PM |
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Apr 4 2006, 07:39 PM
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Gravity,
You still didn't answer my question. Did your your "so called professional investor" sister invested her company's money in Swisscash? If yes, how much? What company she work in? (You can PM me if you doesn't want to publicly stating the company's name) If no, WHY? Since Swisscash can provide such high return how come your sister's company didn't invest in it. If you are really honest in this thing please answer the question. |
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Apr 4 2006, 11:51 PM
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QUOTE(jalut @ Apr 4 2006, 07:39 PM) Gravity, please, can u show some respect to people? she indeed is a professional investor. She had been investing in all kind of investments, eg, properties, shares etc. She's is my auntie, not my sis. I havent seen her lately, as u know it is very busy as an investor. She is working in prudential if im not mistaken. and she invested 10K usd which is RM38K. You still didn't answer my question. Did your your "so called professional investor" sister invested her company's money in Swisscash? If yes, how much? What company she work in? (You can PM me if you doesn't want to publicly stating the company's name) If no, WHY? Since Swisscash can provide such high return how come your sister's company didn't invest in it. If you are really honest in this thing please answer the question. Logically, it's already hard enough for ppl to believe in this. Do u think it will be easy to convice a whole company to invest in it? besides, in swisscash, the maximum sum is 100K USD. if it's more than that, might as well they set up their own company right? |
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Apr 5 2006, 12:11 AM
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hmm this swisscash is interesting but some how i don't buy it. you're right higher the risk higher the return. but the way you put it is like a sure make $$$$.
how much have u invested and if you're the staff of swisscash how come only your aunty invested? i am sure u will go borrow money from bank, uncle and aunties, etc..etc. why not post some image of the statement to make us better understand it. |
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Apr 5 2006, 12:30 AM
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QUOTE(klww2001 @ Apr 5 2006, 12:11 AM) hmm this swisscash is interesting but some how i don't buy it. you're right higher the risk higher the return. but the way you put it is like a sure make $$$$. I had invested 1Kusd, and im a referral of swisscash, not really a staff. Why only my auntie invested? it's hard to say, for somebody, they will be afraid to lose their money in investing high risk investment. But for ppl who dare to take risk, they will have higher return. As for my auntie, she is willing to take the risk of losing her 10KUSD. As I had said in the previous post, if u invest for eg, 100usd, what u lose if anything happen is only that 100. But if u have miss the oppurturnity, what u miss is much more than the 100. how much have u invested and if you're the staff of swisscash how come only your aunty invested? i am sure u will go borrow money from bank, uncle and aunties, etc..etc. why not post some image of the statement to make us better understand it. and for investing, of course u cant throw all your capital into one type of investment right? we have to diversify the investment and porfolio. what statement do you want me to post? the bank statement or anything else? This post has been edited by Gravity: Apr 5 2006, 12:34 AM |
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Apr 5 2006, 01:21 AM
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QUOTE(Gravity @ Apr 4 2006, 11:51 PM) Logically, it's already hard enough for ppl to believe in this. Do u think it will be easy to convice a whole company to invest in it? Could you explain why it is hard enough for ppl to believe in this? I believe that it should be very easy to convince people if the investment is indeed legitimate. |
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Apr 5 2006, 09:09 AM
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what kind of market does this swisscash invest in?
and what is the minimum capital for starting a swisscash account? |
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Apr 5 2006, 06:22 PM
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QUOTE(jalut @ Apr 5 2006, 01:21 AM) Could you explain why it is hard enough for ppl to believe in this? I believe that it should be very easy to convince people if the investment is indeed legitimate. QUOTE what kind of market does this swisscash invest in? and what is the minimum capital for starting a swisscash account? the money swisscash got, will be invested into Equity funds, Forex, commodities, Hedging and alot more. you can read it from the site. Basically the site shows how does the company operates. The minimum capital is 100usd. This post has been edited by Gravity: Apr 5 2006, 06:23 PM |
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Apr 5 2006, 09:40 PM
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QUOTE(Gravity @ Apr 5 2006, 06:22 PM) the money swisscash got, will be invested into Equity funds, Forex, commodities, Hedging and alot more. you can read it from the site. Basically the site shows how does the company operates. The minimum capital is 100usd. i thought u were saying that swisscash itself is a mutual fund ? and now u say that it is investing in equity funds ? then i might as well invest straight to that fund...This post has been edited by dEviLs: Apr 5 2006, 09:41 PM |
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Apr 5 2006, 10:06 PM
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QUOTE(Gravity @ Apr 5 2006, 06:22 PM) the money swisscash got, will be invested into Equity funds, Forex, commodities, Hedging and alot more. you can read it from the site. Basically the site shows how does the company operates. The minimum capital is 100usd. if thats the case,then swisscash is a hedge fund,take a look what i posted in my previous postQUOTE i am a subscriber to the FUTURES magazine which reported annually on the best performing funds in US or ex-US. the best returns the top 3 achived are usually around 100+%. we are talking about hedge funds which only trade in indies, commodities, debts , forex etc (which offer the best leverage against equities), on top of that they will further leverage themself by borrowing from banks to increase their trading capital. swisscash offer 20% per month cash returns payable back to investors are simply out of this world. this mean they would have to make >20% per month in order to keep their original trading capital intact. this also mean they are returning 300+% per year! and the minimum capital is 100usd? hedge funds' minimum capital is at least 10k usd. |
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Apr 5 2006, 10:44 PM
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QUOTE(mobiusone @ Apr 5 2006, 10:06 PM) if thats the case,then swisscash is a hedge fund,take a look what i posted in my previous post that's why swisscash is here to open for us, small investors. swisscash does not only invest in all these funds, but they also in properties and businesses.and the minimum capital is 100usd? hedge funds' minimum capital is at least 10k usd. QUOTE i thought u were saying that swisscash itself is a mutual fund ? and now u say that it is investing in equity funds ? then i might as well invest straight to that fund... if u have a few hundred thousand of usd and u are a professional investor, feel free to invest then. i advise you all to read what the website write before jumping to the conclusion and to prevent any more misunderstanding. >> Sc This post has been edited by Gravity: Apr 5 2006, 10:51 PM |
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Apr 5 2006, 10:55 PM
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Why not we leave this swisscash thing alone and move on with the investment topic as suggested by the Moderator,Mr. Geminist.
At this point of time,no one is going to win the battle since only time will tell! Today's tornover in Bursa was over 2 billion units and I believe it's all time high,Rinngit also appreciating which is a sign of funds coming in,be it hot money or genuine long term investors.Does this signifies the start of a bull run? This post has been edited by lklatmy: Apr 5 2006, 11:01 PM |
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Apr 6 2006, 12:50 AM
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Yes, let's just leave the topic of swisscash aside from now and let's enjoy some learning and exchange of opinions in other areas of investment.
This post has been edited by Geminist: Apr 6 2006, 12:51 AM |
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Apr 6 2006, 01:04 AM
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how much more mobif will run? does voip companies really got fundementals.
checkout voipstunt. they can call to 50 countries for free with a deposit of euro10. its valid for 120days. how can mobif compete in ppl is giving free. btw, i am using voipstunt to call home when i am overseas |
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Apr 6 2006, 01:07 AM
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anyone doing investment oversea. such as fedility or HSBC mutual funds?
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