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jalut
post Mar 7 2006, 04:41 PM

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Some questions regarding stock trading.

1) What is the different between PN4 & PN17?

2) What happen if the share we already bought and later been classified as PN4/PN17. Do we still can sell/trade the share?

3) What are disadvantages of trading warrants apart from ineligible to receive dividend?

4) Anybody have traded with OSK188 online (totally online without have to call the remiser). What is your comment about their online facilities?

5) I notice that a lot of counters rising from December until middle of February before most counters drop price together. What your comment regarding this scenario?

TQ

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post Mar 9 2006, 05:44 PM

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QUOTE(havenzhiv @ Mar 9 2006, 02:12 PM)
i took the ASB loan for about rm 100k for 20 years, this is the conclusion i've obtained

1st year pay rm 800 more or less a month
2nd year and so forth rm150 more or less month (use the dividen to pay back the load), hehehehe, i dont mind not touching the dividen for 20 years.

so after 20 years, paying about 45600 i get rm 100k, which is not bad in my book, plus the whole thing is like insurance as well, anything happens to you, your benefactor will the get the money.
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I believe that if you manually save that amount of money every month into ASB (RM800 every month for 1st year and RM150 every month for the next years) you will get higher returns. This also remove the risk of BLR increament.

Anyway the main advantage of ASB loan is it will force you to be diciplined. It is easier to allocate money if our mind set to pay loan rather than to save it into bank.
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post Mar 9 2006, 05:46 PM

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QUOTE(lklatmy @ Mar 8 2006, 10:27 AM)
My answer to SOME of your questions:

1)PN17 was formulated to replace PN4,Pls refer to the link for details.

http://www.bursamalaysia.com/website/docum...SB_%20Jan05.pdf

2)As long as the share quotation is not suspended and there is a buyer,you can still sell  the share.

3)Apart from no dividend,the main disadvantage of a warrant is that there is an expiry date for the warrant.If the warrant is out of money,in most instances,it will expire worthless.
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TQ so much. thumbup.gif
jalut
post Mar 9 2006, 09:33 PM

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QUOTE(cherroy @ Mar 9 2006, 09:16 PM)
Out of money means that the warrant is worthless to be converted eg.

mother share - RM0.50
warrant conversion price RM0.80

then the warrant is out of money since the mother share price is lower than the conversion price, better still buy directly the mother share.

The purpose of investing in warrant is to have high gearing (small knife cut big tree) eg.

Mother share RM10
Warrant conversion price RM5
Warrant current price RM6

Take the scenario of the share goes up tp RM15 and warrant follow suit to RM10

(15-10)/10 = 50% (the percentage gain from investing in the share)

(10-6)/6 = 66% (the percentage gain from investing in warrant)

Also you use less capital RM6 only compared to RM10 in share.

But if the share goes down below RM5 then the whole warrant become worthless and if expired at the time then you lose 100% of you RM6 capital but if you bought the mother share rather warrant at that time, you still can wait the market condition to improve and may be one day it will goes up to RM10 again. So the main enermy of the warrant is its expiry time.
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thumbup.gif Very good explanation. Helps me a lot.
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post Mar 15 2006, 09:28 PM

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QUOTE(dreamer101 @ Mar 15 2006, 08:58 PM)
or you have no idea what you are getting into.
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I bet the satement above is the accurate answer. tongue.gif

Mr Gavity, please

1) Do more research if your want to invest your money into this type of "investment".

2) Do more, more, EXTRA, EXTRA, EXTRA 1000X research before inviting other people into this kind of thing. Do not even suggest anything that you are no 100% sure.

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post Mar 15 2006, 09:40 PM

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Some info regarding Swisscash

http://www.scamfraudalert.com/showthread.php?t=1191

Regarding the forum
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ScamFruadAlert is dedicated to informing online users about potential or existing scams. We strive to educate the public on how to surf  SAVE and WISE.
jalut
post Mar 16 2006, 10:01 AM

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QUOTE(Gravity @ Mar 16 2006, 12:38 AM)
Mr jalut, please. have you ever heard of high risk high return? Can u find any invesment that is 100% safe? Even if u put your money in the bank, financial crisis could happen anytime. Who knows what will happen in the next sec.
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doh.gif Haiya Gravity... You clearly misunderstood what I said. What really meant is 100% to the legality of the investment scheme. So far nobody is confident enough that Swissbank is a true and legitimate type of investment. They even cannot provide the detail where they actually invest the money and managed to give such high return compared to any investemnt scheme that are proven to be legal.

There is a difference between "doing the right thing" and then later "doing the thing right". smile.gif

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post Mar 16 2006, 02:40 PM

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QUOTE(Gravity @ Mar 16 2006, 01:02 PM)
blink.gif okie, i get your point. Then do you have any better investment to intro?  thumbup.gif
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Nothing that you didn't know already. tongue.gif . Personally I wouldn't dare to suggest any type of investment to anybody especially if it involve high risk. I wouldnt dare to risk other people's money for the sake of my own benefit. I also will stay away from any kind of ponzi (and variants), pyramid scheme and autosurf or any kind of referral based investment. I prefer to go for a legally proven type of investment.

I will make sure that I am doing the right thing first.
Then only after I made my decission, I will make sure that I'm doing the thing right (so far this is the hardest part, still learning though... smile.gif ).

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post Mar 22 2006, 08:32 PM

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QUOTE(Gravity @ Mar 20 2006, 12:51 AM)
Erm, sorry about not mentioning that she involved in investment on behalf of her company. She actually manages the funds and decide on the investment for her company.
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Do she invest her company's money in Swisscash? If you can confirm this many people will start putting Swisscash on a different perspective including me.




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Edited : I meant Swisscash.. not Swissbank..

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post Mar 24 2006, 09:41 AM

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Good news.. At least there are some progress
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post Apr 4 2006, 07:39 PM

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Gravity,

You still didn't answer my question.

Did your your "so called professional investor" sister invested her company's money in Swisscash?

If yes, how much? What company she work in? (You can PM me if you doesn't want to publicly stating the company's name)

If no, WHY? Since Swisscash can provide such high return how come your sister's company didn't invest in it.


If you are really honest in this thing please answer the question.
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post Apr 5 2006, 01:21 AM

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QUOTE(Gravity @ Apr 4 2006, 11:51 PM)
Logically, it's already hard enough for ppl to believe in this. Do u think it will be easy to convice a whole company to invest in it?
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Could you explain why it is hard enough for ppl to believe in this?

I believe that it should be very easy to convince people if the investment is indeed legitimate.

 

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