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post Apr 4 2006, 11:47 AM

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huge rewards comes with huge risk,you had to accept it.

Find a way to stay away from rotten stocks.
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Yes, indeed, if u cant take the risk, then it's better for u not to invest. but in swisscash, your risk is actually getting lower and lower. The time u got back your 10%, your risk remain 90% and the time u got back 50%, your risk will left another 50.

If it is a scam, do u think they will pay you that efficient? To be frankly, the 1st time i withdraw the return, i felt so surprised as the process is really fast. It only takes me 2 business day for the money to bank into my account.

Yes, u may find alot of malaysian and singaporean investors flooded the page. It is because for the south east asia region, it grows from sg and to malaysia.
i have another point. okie, to open an account in bank as a company, Im sure that the bank will investigate the background of the company right? If swisscash doesnt exist, why did the bank approve? Swisscash is making millions and wont the bank feel weird if its doesnt exists? think about it. Swisscash is one of the project under swissmutualfunds. Think yourself as the creator of this "scammer", do u think u will make another professional website like swissmutualfunds did, and at the same time manages swisscash? do u think it's possible for them to maintain it? They even have to manages database, investing and updating the performance of the company to us at the same time. It merely impossible for a group of 5 to manages such a thing.

Swiss mutual funds registered the company back in 1948. My upline who is owns a company in HK told me about this. When he wanted to register his company last year, he had to register as richmound 2005. He cannot backdate the year.

Our CFO, michael mansfield had actually gave a talk to the sg team, and that's why the sg team is so confident in swisscash. again, if u see alot of swisscash website with those dreamkaya team, they are actually some malaysian or sg swisscash group. well, i can open one website to promote swisscash too right? Sometimes when things turn out to be good, people somehow will think that it is impossible. But in fact, what swisscash offer is true. My upline had already get more than 300% from her return within one year. she invested 10K usd and had got back about 80K usd thumbup.gif . Believe it or not, u have to come see her personally, she will show u everything. icon_rolleyes.gif

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post Apr 4 2006, 12:58 PM

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investment in physical gold anyone?

i wont be taking any swisscash risk. but gold price will just increace expecially when cash starts to devalue. any thoughts?
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post Apr 4 2006, 04:21 PM

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Hmm, about this Swisscash thing, why not someone post up the confirmed link to the parent body (Swiss Mutual Funds?) so that me or someone else can shoot them an email and enquire about Swisscash?

This way we can clear this problem once and for all.
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post Apr 4 2006, 04:35 PM

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QUOTE(Gravity @ Apr 4 2006, 11:47 AM)

Our CFO, michael mansfield had actually gave a talk to the sg team, and that's why the sg team is so confident in swisscash. again, if u see alot of swisscash website with those dreamkaya team, they are actually some malaysian or sg swisscash group. well, i can open one website to promote swisscash too right? Sometimes when things turn out to be good, people somehow will think that it is impossible. But in fact, what swisscash offer is true. My upline had already get more than 300% from her return within one year. she invested 10K usd and had got back about 80K usd thumbup.gif . Believe it or not, u have to come see her personally, she will show u everything.  icon_rolleyes.gif
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Gravity,

Does that means you admit that you work for Swisscash??

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post Apr 4 2006, 06:00 PM

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Does that means you admit that you work for Swisscash??

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Well, of course. i had told about it in the previous page right? If i wasn't in swisscash, will it be possible for me to know and understand swisscash now? if u dont try, u never know..

for those who wan to check out the mothersite ( swissmutualfund) u can find the link in swisscash.biz

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post Apr 4 2006, 07:39 PM

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Gravity,

You still didn't answer my question.

Did your your "so called professional investor" sister invested her company's money in Swisscash?

If yes, how much? What company she work in? (You can PM me if you doesn't want to publicly stating the company's name)

If no, WHY? Since Swisscash can provide such high return how come your sister's company didn't invest in it.


If you are really honest in this thing please answer the question.
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post Apr 4 2006, 11:51 PM

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QUOTE(jalut @ Apr 4 2006, 07:39 PM)
Gravity,

You still didn't answer my question.

Did your your "so called professional investor" sister invested her company's money in Swisscash?

If yes, how much? What company she work in? (You can PM me if you doesn't want to publicly stating the company's name)

If no, WHY? Since Swisscash can provide such high return how come your sister's company didn't invest in it.
If you are really honest in this thing please answer the question.
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please, can u show some respect to people? she indeed is a professional investor. She had been investing in all kind of investments, eg, properties, shares etc. She's is my auntie, not my sis. I havent seen her lately, as u know it is very busy as an investor. She is working in prudential if im not mistaken. and she invested 10K usd which is RM38K.

Logically, it's already hard enough for ppl to believe in this. Do u think it will be easy to convice a whole company to invest in it? besides, in swisscash, the maximum sum is 100K USD. if it's more than that, might as well they set up their own company right? tongue.gif
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post Apr 5 2006, 12:11 AM

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hmm this swisscash is interesting but some how i don't buy it. you're right higher the risk higher the return. but the way you put it is like a sure make $$$$.

how much have u invested and if you're the staff of swisscash how come only your aunty invested? i am sure u will go borrow money from bank, uncle and aunties, etc..etc.

why not post some image of the statement to make us better understand it.


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post Apr 5 2006, 12:30 AM

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QUOTE(klww2001 @ Apr 5 2006, 12:11 AM)
hmm this swisscash is interesting but some how i don't buy it. you're right higher the risk higher the return. but the way you put it is like a sure make $$$$.

how much have u invested and if you're the staff of swisscash how come only your aunty invested? i am sure u will go borrow money from bank, uncle and aunties, etc..etc.

why not post some image of the statement to make us better understand it.
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I had invested 1Kusd, and im a referral of swisscash, not really a staff. Why only my auntie invested? it's hard to say, for somebody, they will be afraid to lose their money in investing high risk investment. But for ppl who dare to take risk, they will have higher return. As for my auntie, she is willing to take the risk of losing her 10KUSD. As I had said in the previous post, if u invest for eg, 100usd, what u lose if anything happen is only that 100. But if u have miss the oppurturnity, what u miss is much more than the 100. smile.gif

and for investing, of course u cant throw all your capital into one type of investment right? we have to diversify the investment and porfolio.

what statement do you want me to post? the bank statement or anything else? smile.gif

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post Apr 5 2006, 01:21 AM

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QUOTE(Gravity @ Apr 4 2006, 11:51 PM)
Logically, it's already hard enough for ppl to believe in this. Do u think it will be easy to convice a whole company to invest in it?
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Could you explain why it is hard enough for ppl to believe in this?

I believe that it should be very easy to convince people if the investment is indeed legitimate.
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what kind of market does this swisscash invest in?

and what is the minimum capital for starting a swisscash account?
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post Apr 5 2006, 06:22 PM

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QUOTE(jalut @ Apr 5 2006, 01:21 AM)
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Could you explain why it is hard enough for ppl to believe in this?

I believe that it should be very easy to convince people if the investment is indeed legitimate.
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Oh, what is your 1st impression when i share with you swisscash? what i got mostly is negative feed back, which means people just doesnt believe there is such a good thing. or in another word, people thought that it's too good to be true, and that's the problem

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what kind of market does this swisscash invest in?

and what is the minimum capital for starting a swisscash account?


the money swisscash got, will be invested into Equity funds, Forex, commodities, Hedging and alot more. you can read it from the site. Basically the site shows how does the company operates. The minimum capital is 100usd.

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post Apr 5 2006, 09:40 PM

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QUOTE(Gravity @ Apr 5 2006, 06:22 PM)
the money swisscash got, will be invested into Equity funds, Forex, commodities, Hedging and alot more. you can read it from the site. Basically the site shows how does the company operates. The minimum capital is 100usd.
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i thought u were saying that swisscash itself is a mutual fund ? and now u say that it is investing in equity funds ? then i might as well invest straight to that fund...

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QUOTE(Gravity @ Apr 5 2006, 06:22 PM)
the money swisscash got, will be invested into Equity funds, Forex, commodities, Hedging and alot more. you can read it from the site. Basically the site shows how does the company operates. The minimum capital is 100usd.
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if thats the case,then swisscash is a hedge fund,take a look what i posted in my previous post

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i am a subscriber to the FUTURES magazine which reported annually on
the best performing funds in US or ex-US. the best returns the top 3
achived are usually around 100+%. we are talking about hedge funds
which only trade in indies, commodities, debts , forex etc (which offer the
best leverage against equities), on top of that they will further
leverage themself by borrowing from banks to increase their trading
capital.

swisscash offer 20% per month cash returns payable back to investors
are simply out of this world. this mean they would have to make >20% per
month in order to keep their original trading capital intact. this also
mean they are returning 300+% per year!


and the minimum capital is 100usd?
hedge funds' minimum capital is at least 10k usd.
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post Apr 5 2006, 10:44 PM

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QUOTE(mobiusone @ Apr 5 2006, 10:06 PM)
if thats the case,then swisscash is a hedge fund,take a look what i posted in my previous post
and the minimum capital is 100usd?
hedge funds' minimum capital is at least 10k usd.
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that's why swisscash is here to open for us, small investors. swisscash does not only invest in all these funds, but they also in properties and businesses.

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i thought u were saying that swisscash itself is a mutual fund ? and now u say that it is investing in equity funds ? then i might as well invest straight to that fund...


if u have a few hundred thousand of usd and u are a professional investor, feel free to invest then.

i advise you all to read what the website write before jumping to the conclusion and to prevent any more misunderstanding. >> Sc

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Why not we leave this swisscash thing alone and move on with the investment topic as suggested by the Moderator,Mr. Geminist.

At this point of time,no one is going to win the battle since only time will tell!


Today's tornover in Bursa was over 2 billion units and I believe it's all time high,Rinngit also appreciating which is a sign of funds coming in,be it hot money or genuine long term investors.Does this signifies the start of a bull run?

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Yes, let's just leave the topic of swisscash aside from now and let's enjoy some learning and exchange of opinions in other areas of investment. smile.gif

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how much more mobif will run? does voip companies really got fundementals.

checkout voipstunt. they can call to 50 countries for free with a deposit of euro10. its valid for 120days. how can mobif compete in ppl is giving free.

btw, i am using voipstunt to call home when i am overseas
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anyone doing investment oversea. such as fedility or HSBC mutual funds?
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post Apr 6 2006, 08:02 AM

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QUOTE(lklatmy @ Apr 5 2006, 10:55 PM)
Why not we leave this swisscash thing alone and move on with the investment topic as suggested by the Moderator,Mr. Geminist.

At this point of time,no one is going to win the battle since only time will tell!
Today's tornover in Bursa was over 2 billion units and I believe it's all time high,Rinngit also appreciating which is a sign of funds coming in,be it hot money or genuine long term investors.Does this signifies the start of a bull run?
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well...the futures went up by 13 points yesterday,and klci is showing signs of bull trend,BUT since it only started yesterday,we cant really tell.Maybe the bull will only last a few days? who knows?

time will tell..but dont get waaay too excited yet

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how much more mobif will run? does voip companies really got fundementals.

checkout voipstunt. they can call to 50 countries for free with a deposit of euro10. its valid for 120days. how can mobif compete in ppl is giving free.

btw, i am using voipstunt to call home when i am overseas
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mobif? 0042?

mobif is another goreng counter,and it still shows no sign of retracing.If you want to buy it now,it is a bit risky.But..hey..maybe it will be like iris,when i kept saying it will do a retracement around 50 cents,then it shot all the way up to 70 cents without taking a break.

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