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billytong
post Dec 9 2006, 03:59 PM

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you better check carefully on this. There are a lot of scam investment scheme.
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post Dec 9 2006, 04:18 PM

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Whenever something that too good to be true, better double check. If the return is so great, EPF board and all the funds in this world might as well dissolved and invest all the money into it. whistling.gif

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post Dec 9 2006, 04:25 PM

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QUOTE(cherroy @ Dec 9 2006, 04:18 PM)
Whenever something that too good to be true, better double check. If the return is so great, EPF board and all the funds in this world might as well dissolved and invest all the money into it.  whistling.gif
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yar... i go check their website.... i really cannot believe lar... 20% guarantee.. lol

btw, its really not complete no ees charges..etc....

jus now check d net, found out that, its not an investment... its something like skim cepat kaya.... wink.gif

damn, my colleague edi dump dunno how much money edi.... shud i told him to pull out? i think he wanna apply for personal loan (rm10000) and put into this swiss cash... @.@
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post Dec 9 2006, 05:24 PM

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Base on what you said, I got a bad feeling this is a money scam scheme.

If it is, tell you friend to stop going further.

1. If he can take his money now without losing a cent. Take ASAP.
2. If there are some silly charges, penalty etc. Check the Term and condition. If there is nothing your friend can do to avoid the charges. Take whatever is left.


Investment Rule No.32* tongue.gif : Never take a LOAN to do investment!


Recently you see a lot of funny things like this....

"Work @ Home! Earn RM5000-RM10000 by sending emails!" shakehead.gif

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post Dec 10 2006, 06:09 PM

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just wanna share with u all,where to invest ur money without scared lossing ur money but can make good profit,invest with amcash,ambank product invetment,if u dont understand dun hasitate to pm me,im not promoting just for money here but i just wanna help u all,helping u all from losing ur money......thanks for reading anything pm me



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post Dec 11 2006, 11:39 AM

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QUOTE(kunyit_kampung @ Dec 10 2006, 06:09 PM)
just wanna share with u all,where to invest ur money without scared lossing ur money but can make good profit,invest with amcash,ambank product invetment,if u dont understand dun hasitate to pm me,im not promoting just for money here but i just wanna help u all,helping u all from losing ur money......thanks for reading anything pm me
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no advertisement here....... or forummer will report u to d MOD....
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post Dec 11 2006, 01:19 PM

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QUOTE(low yat 82 @ Dec 11 2006, 11:39 AM)
no advertisement here....... or forummer will report u to d MOD....
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ooo sorry for add, wanna help them duuno cannot attach in here............ icon_rolleyes.gif
oh yeah mind if im asking,why we cannot advertise in here?coz i think my adv is legal one not that skim cepat kaye one.......just wanna know

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post Dec 11 2006, 01:21 PM

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hi guys,
just want to ask, what is the different between the main board and the second board? if i want to start investment, whic board should i go to??? thanks.
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post Dec 11 2006, 01:25 PM

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QUOTE(low yat 82 @ Dec 9 2006, 09:53 AM)
any1 noe ab swiss cash? coz my fren invested it and every month keeps getting 20% of fixed invesments..... but i seems cant find ab wat they invested or comssion they charge etc....
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itu tipu bro dont waste ur money bro.....after all ur hard work them got cheated form that scam............go for legally proven invesment company
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post Dec 11 2006, 02:30 PM

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QUOTE(magnum @ Dec 11 2006, 01:21 PM)
hi guys,
just want to ask, what is the different between the main board and the second board? if i want to start investment, whic board should i go to??? thanks.
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The capital requirement for company listed is different. If you want to be listed in Main Board, you need more capital. In other words, main board companies are bigger in term of capital. You can read the details of this in www.bursamalaysia.com

About which board you should go...normally main board share is more stable and expensive, while second board share is cheaper but company is smaller compared to mainboard, the risk is higher...you have to judge yourself, how much risk you can take and try to study the particular company's profile and financial condition before you invest in it.

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post Dec 11 2006, 02:41 PM

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QUOTE(leekk8 @ Dec 11 2006, 02:30 PM)
The capital requirement for company listed is different. If you want to be listed in Main Board, you need more capital. In other words, main board companies are bigger in term of capital. You can read the details of this in www.bursamalaysia.com

About which board you should go...normally main board share is more stable and expensive, while second board share is cheaper but company is smaller compared to mainboard, the risk is higher...you have to judge yourself, how much risk you can take and try to study the particular company's profile and financial condition before you invest in it.
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Not really, sometimes some second board company have higher dividend yields, grow faster and etc.
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post Dec 11 2006, 11:15 PM

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QUOTE(billytong @ Dec 11 2006, 02:41 PM)
Not really, sometimes some second board company have higher dividend yields, grow faster and etc.
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For sure, there are some second board companies perform well and pay out high dividen...The reason they listed on second board is just because their capital is less, if their management is good, then the company will perform well and earn profit...
So, we should study about the companies before we invest...I always believe that not every main board stock is good...and there will be some second board or even Mesdaq companies are good...
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post Dec 13 2006, 12:00 PM

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has anyone heard of EAINDEX.com ?

I think its something like SwissCAsh ...
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post Dec 13 2006, 12:43 PM

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what is Mesdaq?
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post Dec 13 2006, 02:28 PM

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In KLSE, there are 3 main categories of companies: Main Board, Second Board and Mesdaq... As far I know, the difference is only the capital of the company...if your company has less capital but you wish to public list, then you can choose Mesdaq, where the requirement is lower...
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what is Mesdaq?
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Mesdaq normally for those company with high growth potential and those tech companies
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post Dec 14 2006, 05:18 PM

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Hmm... The Star, had previously ran some editorial regarding to this Swiss Cash scam.

The people involved in this scam involves certain VIP.

By all means, please invest in Swiss Cash now as the founder/proprietor requires funding to post their bail and subsequent they might need to pay the legal fees as well.

Alienware, you are either too ignorant or perhaps, you are one of them. Trying to spread the con by masquerading behind the cloak of innocent and naive forum member.

From Bank Negara Website
http://www.bnm.gov.my/index.php?ch=8&pg=14&ac=1299

Ref No: 09/06/01

Embargo: For immediate release
Warning on Swiss Cash or Swiss Mutual Fund

Bank Negara Malaysia and Securities Commission of Malaysia would like to inform members of the public that Swiss Mutual Fund, the company that is promoting the Swiss Cash fund, is not licensed or exempted from licensing by Bank Negara Malaysia to accept deposits nor is it licensed by the Securities Commission to carry out asset management activities or services in Malaysia. Swiss Cash fund promoted by Swiss Mutual Fund has not been approved nor endorsed by the Securities Commission.

Swiss Cash fund is an internet-based investment program promoted by Swiss Mutual Fund, a fund management company claimed to be registered overseas, and the investment opportunities in the fund is offered through the Internet and local agents.

Members of the public should only invest through parties that have been licensed by the authorities. When in doubt, the public should check with Bank Negara Malaysia, the Securities Commission or other relevant authority on the licensing status of the local or foreign company before making any investment.

Members of the public may contact the Securities Commission and Bank Negara Malaysia for enquiries on the fund:

Complaints Department, Securities Commission
Tel: 03 6204 8999
Fax: 03 6204 8991
E-mail: aduan@seccom.com.my

Bank Negara Malaysia
Tel: 03 2691 0824 / 2692 6482 / 2698 2810 / 2694 2143
Fax: 03 2698 7467
E-mail: info@bnm.gov.my

Bank Negara Malaysia
Securities Commission
5 September 2006



Bank Negara Malaysia
5 September 2006




From The Star
http://thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?file=...0816&sec=nation

Two Datuks held over Internet scam

KUALA LUMPUR: Two Datuks and six others have been placed under remand to help investigations into a get-rich-quick scheme that allegedly promised “huge returns for a minimum investment.”

The Datuks, aged 47 and 57, were produced before a magistrate’s here yesterday together with the others, aged 26 to 58, after their arrest on Monday.

Magistrate Azniza Mohd Ali ordered them to be remanded for five days, until Oct 7.

The police are investigating the case under Section 420 of the Penal Code for cheating.

The alleged scam, known as SwissCash or Swiss Mutual Fund (1948), was uncovered early last month and reported in a Malay tabloid.

Over 50,000 people have purportedly signed up for the scheme since its introduction in April last year.

The Swiss Embassy here has denied that its government had approved the scheme and also rebuffed claims that it was based in Switzerland.

SwissCash, which operates through the Internet, claims to be an “easy, fast and secure scheme.”

It claimed investors’ funds were channelled to business activities ranging from oil exploration to shipping and agriculture in the Caribbean.

Investors are required to pay a registration fee of US$30 (RM110) to join the scheme, which allegedly offers huge returns for a minimum investment of US$100 (RM370).

Those behind the scheme also claimed that investments of US$1,000 (RM3,700) or more could earn a profit of up to 300% after 15 months.

However, after the report appeared in the tabloid, the Securities Commission and Bank Negara released statements saying SwissCash had no licence to collect funds.

Prime Minister Datuk Seri Abdullah Ahmad Badawi also issued a statement calling on those duped by the scam to quickly lodge reports.

Among the scheme’s purported victims are a lawyer, a consultant, a technician and the secretary-general of a government ministry. They claimed they had been cheated of nearly RM20mil.



More follow-up by The Star

http://thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?file=...3129&sec=nation
Be wary of ‘Swiss’ website

By EDDIE CHUA

KUALA LUMPUR: If you have stumbled onto the Swiss Cash or Swiss Mutual Fund website, which is making an aggressive sales campaign here, it is best to be cautious.

The two companies are not Swiss-registered firms.

The Swiss embassy here has warned the public that the two companies have no relation to their country.

“Sometimes, companies use the word 'Swiss' or images of the Swiss flag to associate themselves with the reputation of Swiss companies.”

The statement said the two companies are not subjected to Swiss law and therefore the public should be careful when investing in such funds.

A man, who runs a local website and claimed to have invested US$50,000 (RM189,300) in the fund, told The Star that he had obtained a return of 300% in 15 months.

He said a company that has its headquarters in the Dominican Republic manages the fund.

“The minimum investment is US$100 (RM379) while its maximum is US$100,000 (RM379,000),” he said.

“To invest in the fund, one has to pay US$30 (RM113.60), a one-time registration fee. However, the registration fee must be wired through a bank to the company in the United States.”

He said there would be a 10% return in one to three months.

“It has been so far so good as I get my returns on time,” he said.



I also notice that there is this forummer offering HYIP, High Yield Investment Product via his/her Ronnie 2U investmentlink or something like that. Any doubts about his "investment" can be refer to the articles above. Better yet, call Bank Negara Malaysia numbers above.

Alternatively, Securities Commission, www.sc.com.my, is another government agency for handling such matter. In fact, any leads that leads to prosecution will be REWARDED.
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post Dec 14 2006, 06:15 PM

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As expected, it is obviously a scam.

But I would like to warn all the members here. smile.gif

If someone approach you for a investment scheme.

Please ask for,

Company registration No,
Address.

and check for the track record of the company. Normally an investment firm should get the license from Bank Negara or From oversea Central Bank.

OT: Hey I like the X'mas Emoticon! laugh.gif thumbup.gif

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post Dec 14 2006, 10:44 PM

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hi guys, what do u guys think about REIT in Malaysia? worth to invest?
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post Dec 15 2006, 08:50 AM

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Reit generally generated about 6-7% yield but due to infavourable tax structured on the income distribution, it is not that popular here. (local being taxed at 15% while foreigner 20%).

So if a reit yield 6% but after tax left only 5.1% which is only slightly above FD rate, that's why reit is not so attractive here. Overseas like Singapore, the reit income is tax free (for 5 years or something like that,not sure) while others also being taxed at a much lower rate.
That's also why most of the reit traded at below IPO offer price due to lack of interest especially from foreign investors.

If gov gave tax exemption on reit, definitely this industry will have much better future.

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