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TSxandras
post Aug 23 2011, 08:26 PM

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QUOTE(jasonloh7906 @ Aug 23 2011, 07:20 PM)
most ppl say change engine oil at every 5k. but what is the interval for semi synthetic to change oil??
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5k KMs lo. laugh.gif 5k-7k KMs lah.

QUOTE(KKW @ Aug 23 2011, 07:34 PM)
Damn it.. after warranty only got sound  doh.gif
Any solution beside replace the black plastic air scope?
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Can. Remove the whole plastic scope, fit sponge at the joints before refitting the plastic scope again.

QUOTE(jasonloh7906 @ Aug 23 2011, 07:55 PM)
potenza RE001 also noisy?? then its quite strange liao lor. mine is NCT 5 with 10%thread i think @@
but then i think it means we need to do a bit bit of sound insulation.
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Potenza very quiet when new. But u must also take into account that he's using 215/45/17, which is actually quite thin compared to stock tyres. The thinner the tyres are, they're bound to be noisier.

QUOTE(KKW @ Aug 23 2011, 08:04 PM)
vccy, since when you become castrol magnatech seller?
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Economy not good lah.. Backside also he sell.. brows.gif

SIEN AH!!! mega_shok.gif


Added on August 23, 2011, 8:28 pm
QUOTE(wan arif @ Aug 23 2011, 06:40 PM)
finally..the noise that coming from front left is not absorber..but it is A TIE ROD PROBLEM...i'm confident by the way that the pomen tells me exactly describe the noise... insyaAllah..waiting for the tie rod soon...
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Tie rod problem? U verified this at SC or what? hmm.gif But ur car still considered quite new rite?

This post has been edited by xandras: Aug 23 2011, 08:30 PM
samwongjyhhorng
post Aug 23 2011, 08:28 PM

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QUOTE(vccy @ Aug 23 2011, 07:58 PM)
i see. if open on sunday. I also would like to join.  biggrin.gif
Geng ar? Very expensive oh. Potenze Tyre only already cost Rm500 each. this ibumie boss is very rich.
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i'm not rich..the rich guy is xandras lo..i bought 2nd hand rim and tyre from him lo doh.gif


Added on August 23, 2011, 8:29 pm
QUOTE(ngeo88 @ Aug 23 2011, 07:51 PM)
Count me in  drool.gif
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ok..

bulk order for EA foam installation:

1)samwongjyhhorng
2)ngeo88
3)vccy(will attend if sunday open)

who else wanna join the bulk rclxms.gif

This post has been edited by samwongjyhhorng: Aug 23 2011, 08:29 PM
vccy
post Aug 23 2011, 08:31 PM

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QUOTE(KKW @ Aug 23 2011, 09:04 PM)
vccy, since when you become castrol magnatech seller?
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Since yesterday. LOL laugh.gif

QUOTE(Fubar20 @ Aug 23 2011, 09:14 PM)
hmm.gif Are you sure? In what sense that it is stronger? flex.gif
Since dorinyeah request to take it from Melaka.  whistling.gif
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you know our chassis is hollow type. I think every car are hollow type. hollow means middle of the steel is empty. if our chassis were to make from solid steel then our car will become heavy and the drive will be not fun. if accident hollow steel is more easily to kemek compare to solid steel. The foam is to fill in the empty space in the steel, that makes your chassis to be more stronger and tougher lo.

EG, if you knock on an empty milo tin it produce a sound right? But if fill it with sand and knock it again the sound produce is lighter because the send tend to absorb the sound. This is what happen in most car. when travel the wind knock again the hollow steel and produce sound. the foam is install to absorb the sound. smile.gif

Btw there is a disadvantage using foam inside your chassis. If you occur in a major accident involve you chassis. (touch woods la. laugh.gif ) where your chassis kemek or bend. the process of knocking it back to normal will be a tough job or impossible depend on how you crash. This the great disadvantage la. So becareful on the road la. biggrin.gif

At the beginning I got the intention to install it at cos it can absorb the road noise and wind noise. I sited inside a wira with profoam installed. Like sitting inside a coffin. ( choi touch wood sweat.gif ) so damn quite. But that guy also invest a lot in making the sound proof for his whole wira. sweat.gif
TSxandras
post Aug 23 2011, 08:32 PM

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QUOTE(samwongjyhhorng @ Aug 23 2011, 08:28 PM)
i'm not rich..the rich guy is xandras lo..i bought 2nd hand rim and tyre from him lo doh.gif


Added on August 23, 2011, 8:29 pm

ok..

bulk order for EA foam installation:

1)samwongjyhhorng
2)ngeo88
3)vccy(will attend if sunday open)

who else wanna join the bulk rclxms.gif
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I rich I no need eat instant noodle liao la.. sweat.gif
vccy
post Aug 23 2011, 08:36 PM

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QUOTE(xandras @ Aug 23 2011, 09:26 PM)

Economy not good lah.. Backside also he sell.. brows.gif

SIEN AH!!! mega_shok.gif


Added on August 23, 2011, 8:28 pm
Tie rod problem? U verified this at SC or what? hmm.gif But ur car still considered quite new rite?
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LOL my economy is not that bad until need to sell back side. doh.gif

QUOTE(xandras @ Aug 23 2011, 09:32 PM)
I rich I no need eat instant noodle liao la.. sweat.gif
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tis fellow also a rich guy, his relative all rich, drive M3, poche somemore. whistling.gif

so "rich guy" still got wat left for sale from your previous PE? brows.gif
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post Aug 23 2011, 08:36 PM

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QUOTE(vccy @ Aug 23 2011, 08:02 PM)
make your chasis stronger and absorb road noise.
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But for RM180, will be able to notice the difference?
samwongjyhhorng
post Aug 23 2011, 08:39 PM

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QUOTE(MovingMachine @ Aug 23 2011, 08:36 PM)
But for RM180, will be able to notice the difference?
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sure..and tis is promotion price..normal price is around RM350 leh..anyway,tis onli do side and rear onli..if u wan reali much improvement,u need do soundproof for ur floor,rear boot,door..and pump the foam into ur side and rear chassis,a,b,c pillar..then u can notice much difference..
TSxandras
post Aug 23 2011, 08:40 PM

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QUOTE(vccy @ Aug 23 2011, 08:36 PM)
LOL my economy is not that bad until need to sell back side.  doh.gif
tis fellow also a rich guy, his relative all rich, drive M3, poche somemore.  whistling.gif

so "rich guy" still got wat left for sale from your previous PE?  brows.gif
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My relative rich not me rich ma.. It's like saying u're related to Agong but u don't share his power in ruling the country.. sweat.gif

QUOTE(MovingMachine @ Aug 23 2011, 08:36 PM)
But for RM180, will be able to notice the difference?
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I find this question rather confusing, amusing & mindfcuking at the same time. Does it means that for RM 180 u cannot do any mods that will able to show u the difference? laugh.gif
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post Aug 23 2011, 08:40 PM

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QUOTE(vccy @ Aug 23 2011, 08:31 PM)
Since yesterday. LOL  laugh.gif
you know our chassis is hollow type. I think every car are hollow type. hollow means middle of the steel is empty. if our chassis were to make from solid steel then our car will become heavy and the drive will be not fun. if accident hollow steel is more easily to kemek compare to solid steel. The foam is to fill in the empty space in the steel, that makes your chassis to be more stronger and tougher lo.

EG, if you knock on an empty milo tin it produce a sound right? But if fill it with sand and knock it again the sound produce is lighter because the send tend to absorb the sound. This is what happen in most car. when travel the wind knock again the hollow steel and produce sound. the foam is install to absorb the sound.  smile.gif

Btw there is a disadvantage using foam inside your chassis. If you occur in a major accident involve you chassis. (touch woods la.  laugh.gif ) where your chassis kemek or bend. the process of knocking it back to normal will be a tough job or impossible depend on how you crash. This the great disadvantage la. So becareful on the road la.  biggrin.gif

At the beginning I got the intention to install it at cos it can absorb the road noise and wind noise. I sited inside a wira with profoam installed. Like sitting inside a coffin. ( choi touch wood  sweat.gif ) so damn quite. But that guy also invest a lot in making the sound proof for his whole wira.  sweat.gif
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wah..wira oso can do it so quiet..our persona sure even better than it lo thumbup.gif he pump the foam to whole car chassis and all pillar???and do soundproof for floor,door,boot,front bonet and roof ady,rite?
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post Aug 23 2011, 08:44 PM

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QUOTE(samwongjyhhorng @ Aug 23 2011, 09:40 PM)
wah..wira oso can do it so quiet..our persona sure even better than it lo thumbup.gif he pump the foam to whole car chassis and all pillar???and do soundproof for floor,door,boot,front bonet and roof ady,rite?
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Bro he spend about 2-3k to make a total tombstone leh. sweat.gif are you willing to do it? Rich sam? laugh.gif

btw the RM180 only cover side and rear. you mean the 2 main hollow steel from front to back? cos i dono how was our persona chassis look like. sweat.gif
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post Aug 23 2011, 08:44 PM

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QUOTE(vccy @ Aug 23 2011, 08:31 PM)
Since yesterday. LOL  laugh.gif
you know our chassis is hollow type. I think every car are hollow type. hollow means middle of the steel is empty. if our chassis were to make from solid steel then our car will become heavy and the drive will be not fun. if accident hollow steel is more easily to kemek compare to solid steel. The foam is to fill in the empty space in the steel, that makes your chassis to be more stronger and tougher lo.

EG, if you knock on an empty milo tin it produce a sound right? But if fill it with sand and knock it again the sound produce is lighter because the send tend to absorb the sound. This is what happen in most car. when travel the wind knock again the hollow steel and produce sound. the foam is install to absorb the sound.  smile.gif

Btw there is a disadvantage using foam inside your chassis. If you occur in a major accident involve you chassis. (touch woods la.  laugh.gif ) where your chassis kemek or bend. the process of knocking it back to normal will be a tough job or impossible depend on how you crash. This the great disadvantage la. So becareful on the road la.  biggrin.gif

At the beginning I got the intention to install it at cos it can absorb the road noise and wind noise. I sited inside a wira with profoam installed. Like sitting inside a coffin. ( choi touch wood  sweat.gif ) so damn quite. But that guy also invest a lot in making the sound proof for his whole wira.  sweat.gif
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hmm.gif Have to disagree with the strengthen the chassis part. Foam is just a light material. You put in hollow steel will make it compact only and not make it stronger. But for absorbing sound and keeping the vibrations low is correct.

This post has been edited by Fubar20: Aug 23 2011, 08:45 PM
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post Aug 23 2011, 08:52 PM

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QUOTE(samwongjyhhorng @ Aug 23 2011, 08:39 PM)
sure..and tis is promotion price..normal price is around RM350 leh..anyway,tis onli do side and rear onli..if u wan reali much improvement,u need do soundproof for ur floor,rear boot,door..and pump the foam into ur side and rear chassis,a,b,c pillar..then u can notice much difference..
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Then ur FC shoot up that time from all the extra weight u dun complain lo..whistling.gif My Myvi last time heavily insulated as well, the sound proof so heavy until FC gone up by 0.5L/100KMs..

QUOTE(Fubar20 @ Aug 23 2011, 08:44 PM)
hmm.gif Have to disagree with the strengthen the chassis part. Foam is just a light material. You put in hollow steel will make it compact only and not make it stronger. But for absorbing sound and keeping the vibrations low is correct.
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Compact = increase RIGIDITY, not strength. The strength of the chassis is directly related to the metal used in building the car. By increasing the rigidity, u're actually reinforcing the chassis and allow less chassis flex.
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post Aug 23 2011, 08:53 PM

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QUOTE(vccy @ Aug 23 2011, 08:44 PM)
Bro he spend about 2-3k to make a total tombstone leh. sweat.gif  are you willing to do it? Rich sam?  laugh.gif

btw the RM180 only cover side and rear. you mean the 2 main hollow steel from front to back? cos i dono how was our persona chassis look like.  sweat.gif
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yup..is the 2 main hollow steel..
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post Aug 23 2011, 08:54 PM

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QUOTE(Fubar20 @ Aug 23 2011, 09:44 PM)
hmm.gif Have to disagree with the strengthen the chassis part. Foam is just a light material. You put in hollow steel will make it compact only and not make it stronger. But for absorbing sound and keeping the vibrations low is correct.
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it actually strengthen it. If you go see how they demo the foam you will shock. It is light but to soft. I saw from the seller (dono where is the link already doh.gif ), he pour out the foam on the floor and let it solidified. the size about 1feet X 1 feet after that he step on it. The foam din kemek or shrink at all. and then he take up the foam easily like taking paper. Then he burnt it. the foam still the same color, din turn black or smoke. I try to find the link and show you guys.
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post Aug 23 2011, 08:55 PM

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QUOTE(xandras @ Aug 23 2011, 08:52 PM)
Then ur FC shoot up that time from all the extra weight u dun complain lo..whistling.gif My Myvi last time heavily insulated as well, the sound proof so heavy until FC gone up by 0.5L/100KMs..
Compact = increase RIGIDITY, not strength. The strength of the chassis is directly related to the metal used in building the car. By increasing the rigidity, u're actually reinforcing the chassis and allow less chassis flex.
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the foam weight onli like few empty bottle mineral water lo..the soundproof tat u add should be insuflex,and related soundproof item gua..tat is quite heavy compare to foam


Added on August 23, 2011, 8:56 pm
QUOTE(vccy @ Aug 23 2011, 08:54 PM)
it actually strengthen it. If you go see how they demo the foam you will shock. It is light but to soft. I saw from the seller (dono where is the link already  doh.gif ), he pour out the foam on the floor and let it solidified. the size about 1feet X 1 feet after that he step on it. The foam din kemek or shrink at all. and then he take up the foam easily like taking paper. Then he burnt it. the foam still the same color, din turn black or smoke. I try to find the link and show you guys.
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the EA foam oso same as u mentioned brows.gif

This post has been edited by samwongjyhhorng: Aug 23 2011, 08:56 PM
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post Aug 23 2011, 09:02 PM

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QUOTE(vccy @ Aug 23 2011, 08:54 PM)
it actually strengthen it. If you go see how they demo the foam you will shock. It is light but to soft. I saw from the seller (dono where is the link already  doh.gif ), he pour out the foam on the floor and let it solidified. the size about 1feet X 1 feet after that he step on it. The foam din kemek or shrink at all. and then he take up the foam easily like taking paper. Then he burnt it. the foam still the same color, din turn black or smoke. I try to find the link and show you guys.
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U can step on a piece of styrofoam and it won't shrink as well. But if u were to pick at it slowly, u can slowly degrade the foam into a million smaller pieces, given that u have the patience & time. This is a good example of rigidity. Got learn physics/chemistry? Hard but brittle. It's the structure on the inside of the foam that's actually giving the rigidity to the foam.

QUOTE(samwongjyhhorng @ Aug 23 2011, 08:55 PM)
the foam weight onli like few empty  bottle mineral water lo..the soundproof tat u add should be insuflex,and related soundproof item gua..tat is quite heavy compare to foam


Added on August 23, 2011, 8:56 pm

the EA foam oso same as u mentioned brows.gif
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Yea I know.. But if u were to soundproof ur car u sure do it to the full extent mah.. Knowing u the mee bagus boss.. brows.gif
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post Aug 23 2011, 09:02 PM

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QUOTE(xandras @ Aug 23 2011, 06:45 PM)
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Alo.. Nice to meet u.. icon_rolleyes.gif
sweat.gif We all also last minute kaki wan. I coming back from damansara that time baru Zeng call.
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u still ok... your car park at your door step
I have to go all the way back down from 5th floor and walk 50M to get my car. (NO LIFT) cry.gif
Am going to shift to Pesona apartment at Melawati if everything goes well.
Don't work for G or else when u pencen that time tidur tepi jalan.

QUOTE(xandras @ Aug 23 2011, 08:32 PM)
I rich I no need eat instant noodle liao la.. sweat.gif
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eat maggi and dieeeeeeeeeeeee........... brows.gif
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QUOTE(K.Lee @ Aug 23 2011, 09:02 PM)
u still ok... your car park at your door step
I have to go all the way back down from 5th floor and walk 50M to get my car. (NO LIFT) cry.gif
Am going to shift to Pesona apartment at Melawati if everything goes well.
Don't work for G or else when u pencen that time tidur tepi jalan.
eat maggi and dieeeeeeeeeeeee........... brows.gif
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G? o.O
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QUOTE(xandras @ Aug 23 2011, 08:52 PM)
Then ur FC shoot up that time from all the extra weight u dun complain lo..whistling.gif My Myvi last time heavily insulated as well, the sound proof so heavy until FC gone up by 0.5L/100KMs..
Compact = increase RIGIDITY, not strength. The strength of the chassis is directly related to the metal used in building the car. By increasing the rigidity, u're actually reinforcing the chassis and allow less chassis flex.
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QUOTE(xandras @ Aug 23 2011, 09:02 PM)
U can step on a piece of styrofoam and it won't shrink as well. But if u were to pick at it slowly, u can slowly degrade the foam into a million smaller pieces, given that u have the patience & time. This is a good example of rigidity. Got learn physics/chemistry? Hard but brittle. It's the structure on the inside of the foam that's actually giving the rigidity to the foam.
Yea I know.. But if u were to soundproof ur car u sure do it to the full extent mah.. Knowing u the mee bagus boss.. brows.gif
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thumbup.gif Good explanation, Xan. That's why I am sceptical about the strengthen the chassis part.
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QUOTE(Dav6534 @ Aug 23 2011, 09:05 PM)
G? o.O
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Oh, here we go again.. The G topic.. brows.gif G= government la.. Not G-spot.. brows.gif

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