The same can be said to you

Those are only equipments la...

Think of why gated are needed? Only private area can be gated to prevent trespassers.

Nowadays, the developers are allowed to put gate/fencing to these compound (development with individual title - all those roads and parks are actually surrendering back to local authority for management/maintenance) with the agreement with local authorities.

You want your private area, can, by making those land as block title and not subdivided into individual plots. (you have to take care of the all charges/maintenance just like condominium/aparment compound area).

This post has been edited by kh8668: Jul 29 2011, 03:10 PM

That is why I said in my previous post, buying TTDI AI, you get strata title advantage minus the responsibilities (some not all) .

I&P can do the same. The problem is they don't do for you. It is not easy to set up those things by yourself.

Let say you have option to buy to 2 cars, both same price. One with GPS, one dont have GPS. Just assume that GPS is super expensive and require maintenance. Why dont you just take the one with GPS. At least you can use it for a while compared to not taking it at all?

This post has been edited by y2kfirewalker: Jul 29 2011, 03:17 PM

Not yet a buyer though

to share

Not so gated community

24/03/2006 The Star

PROPERTY developers are heavily promoting gated (guarded) communities these days.

The buyer is promised security and facilities that can include a swimming pool, tennis court and clubhouse.

But the main selling point is security, which is supposed to be so good you do not have to install a fence around your home or grill up your windows and doors like we Malaysians often do.

All this comes at a cost, incorporated in the price of the house.

Our experience of living in a gated community the past four years is all that glitter in developers' brochures do not translate into a golden environment.

First, buyers should be cautious about buying properties with unusually low maintenance fees.

Those fees must cover the managerial costs of the service provider, monthly maintenance bills and repairs to common amenities.

We moved into our small gated community of 23 houses four years ago. For us, the main attraction was not the pool or the clubhouse, but round-the-clock security as promised by the developer.

But as soon as the houses were sold, the developer scooted off.

So the onus was on a few residents to actually run the show as the maintenance fees were barely enough to pay the monthly bills.

Organising monthly meetings, paying bills, monitoring the security staff, gardener and pool cleaner became a chore most of us had to do despite our busy schedules.

Raising maintenance fees, we discovered, was an impossible task. Some residents are convinced those fees are fixed for life.

The second issue buyers must beware of is the security promised is often illusory. Due to low remuneration, security guards often are retired elderly men, able only to patrol a small area.

The absence of fencing and grills, in fact, make these partially guarded properties even more vulnerable to burglars.

This is exactly what happened to us. In a matter of months, there were three robberies.

But here again, due to low maintenance fees, additional security is simply not feasible.

To wall up our yards defeats the purpose of living in a gated community and paying a premium for our property.

Is Malaysia ready to venture into gated community living?

Currently residents of gated communities sign a deed of mutual governance that states the do's and dont's when they buy the property.

In reality, this document is of a questionable legal standing and can be challenged.

The Government should collect a fund from developers which may be put into a trust which residents can utilise if they are shortchanged.

A more concrete and binding law of mutual governance must also be in place to protect house buyers.

DR RAJ & DR PUSHPA,
Seremban.

4 types

1. Individual title - normal guard security
2. Individual title - guarded community F+G, no proper guard post
3. individual title - guarded community F+G, with proper guard house, DMC agreement binds
4. Strata title - Gated & Guarded / DMC apply

Only G&G has the right to stop visitors fr entering. The rest 1,2,3 actually the guards has no authority to collect visitors' IC (even though it is fenced up + guard post booms gate)

nice article.. this is what we faced nowadays

4 types

1. Individual title - normal guard security (no guard post / booms gate)
2. Individual title - guarded community fence & guarded, no proper guard post
3. individual title - guarded community F+G, with proper guard house, DMC agreement binds
4. Strata title - Gated & Guarded / DMC apply

Only G&G has the right to stop visitors fr entering. While for the above 1,2,3 scenario, the guard is in fact has no authority to detain visitors' IC (even though it is fenced up + guard post booms gate)

y2kfirewalker, not sure if the CCTVs are there. I checked out Spira and the only CCTV is the one at the guardhouse. Didn't see any around its perimeter. It'll be great if it was, bit like DPC ...

It's there, one example is at the fence side of Spira facing the road to Sg. Kandis

This post has been edited by y2kfirewalker: Jul 29 2011, 09:06 PM

Is it easy to set up after market f+g? Like in this case pentas?

I think is very hard, cos alot of pple will just dun want to pay but expect it to miraculously to have fence or gate erected with free guards

Happens in my taman ....impossible to even contribute a sen, pay monthly? I think is even more impossible

Oh, didn't notice it the last time I surveyed the area. Shall look for it the next time I'm there ... possibly when the progressive payments get requested for.

I totally agree with you. And most of Penta buyers are ok with guarded scheme, it will be hard to convince them all to pay more for fencing.

Pentas owner any comments? Are u all not willing to pay for safer home?

i think most of them willing to pay but subject to the amount also. how about the owner who bought for investment? are them willing to pay?

Most of the people like safer home. The investor most probably won't pay. If they can see far enuf, pay for extra security is actually further boosting their house price. I am still wondering why can't InP make area gated. I think people are willing to fork 20k or 30k extra for safer home.

If majority bought for own stay then it should be easier. This will bring the neighbourhood closer too. If more investors....likely koyak!

I am willing to pay monthly fee as I am paying now for my current taman for many years. This is for better security and worth. But as usual there will be lot of resident will not willing to paid.
I know one taman at bandar puteri puchong just recently set up fence + gate after 80% signed.

Pay more for fencing?
No no no, if the application for guarded community is approved, I&P will build it, it is like Spektra BK9, Desiran in Bdr Kinrara

This will be good & improve the value. Can you confirm this?