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post Jul 18 2012, 10:25 PM

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QUOTE(adrianjc @ Jul 18 2012, 09:18 PM)
Go check out Toto rainshower head. Price bout RM900 which is quite decent considering most other stuff i saw was more than RM1k. It's the type that you have to use together with a in-wall hot/cold mixer.

But be warned you'll need excellent water pressure in your house or run a pump. Size is huge but taking a shower in the mornings is just priceless.  brows.gif
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Thanks for your suggest. Actually I don't need branded rain shower head. Any brand will do as long as it reliable. The toto 11" rain shower cost rm1800 at ebay. sweat.gif

If the branded can be get with a good price from oversea, than it is better than the normal 1.
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post Jul 18 2012, 10:40 PM

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QUOTE(ozak @ Jul 18 2012, 10:25 PM)
Thanks for your suggest. Actually I don't need branded rain shower head. Any brand will do as long as it reliable. The toto 11" rain shower cost rm1800 at ebay. sweat.gif 

If the branded can be get with a good price from oversea, than it is better than the normal 1.
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There is some difference between the good quality rain shower heads compared to the normal ones. Don't laugh but besides being copper or whatever the diff. in quality is in the nipple.

Good brands tend not to get clogged as often for some reason and all it takes is a touch of your finger to get the water flowing again.
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post Jul 19 2012, 05:59 PM

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QUOTE(ozak @ Jul 18 2012, 10:25 PM)
Thanks for your suggest. Actually I don't need branded rain shower head. Any brand will do as long as it reliable. The toto 11" rain shower cost rm1800 at ebay. sweat.gif 

If the branded can be get with a good price from oversea, than it is better than the normal 1.
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Ever considered Sorento? I know from my previous visit to zheilwane shop, he has one unit "grohe" in-wall mixer in stock (dunno still have but its original), combine that with a "sorento" rain shower head, can consider ah?
Can nego, nego with him.
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QUOTE(phoenix69 @ Jul 19 2012, 05:59 PM)
Ever considered Sorento? I know from my previous visit to zheilwane shop, he has one unit "grohe" in-wall mixer in stock (dunno still have but its original), combine that with a "sorento" rain shower head, can consider ah?
Can nego, nego with him.
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Will plan visit his shop 1 day. Thanks. smile.gif
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post Jul 19 2012, 07:30 PM

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QUOTE(adrianjc @ Jul 18 2012, 10:40 PM)
There is some difference between the good quality rain shower heads compared to the normal ones. Don't laugh but besides being copper or whatever the diff. in quality is in the nipple.

Good brands tend not to get clogged as often for some reason and all it takes is a touch of your finger to get the water flowing again.
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And easy leak. My two sorento leaking a bit, still waiting for instruction to dismantle and check the ceramic valve.

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post Jul 20 2012, 02:18 PM

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QUOTE(weikee @ Jul 19 2012, 07:30 PM)
And easy leak. My two sorento leaking a bit, still waiting for instruction to dismantle and check the ceramic valve.
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http://www.flickr.com/photos/22779172@N02/6448334665/

How about this one?

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post Jul 20 2012, 02:51 PM

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QUOTE(toffeeman @ Jul 20 2012, 02:18 PM)
Not that one
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For Bathroom Accessories like Paper Holder, Towel Bear, do you think I should go for branded like Toto?

Brand like Toto may cost more than RM100 and even up to RM600 for a single Towel bar.

Do you think it is worth it?

Between, do you guys know any major sales (when and where) for Toto Fittings such as the above?

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post Aug 26 2012, 01:10 PM

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hi, PB is now having a promo with a few dealers to offer 40% on Hansgrohe products (till end of this year). The dealers participating are Agrow, Bathroom Centre, Living Portal, Prestige Bathroom etc.

But I only know of Bina Warehouse and Living Bathrooms as listed in Hansgrohe web and from reading this thread, can also confirm these two are confirmed HG dealers/distributors. Does anyone know if those in the PB list above are also bona-fide HG dealers?

btw anyone know when Bina Warehouse normally have their sales?

thanks.
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post Aug 27 2012, 01:46 PM

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Bina is having sales now if you visit them at Viva
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Rainshower head comparison

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Left: Grohe Cosmopolitan, Right: hansgrohe Raindance S 150 AIR 1-Jet

I've been using the Grohe for the last 3+ years. It's a large 160mm diameter head with 4 spray patterns, but I really just use the Rain function. Being such a large head the spray pattern is quite wide. The water spray is medium thickness and has a fine touch.

I've been intrigued by the hansgrohe AIR system for some time but never got one since I was quite happy with the Grohe. Anyway, with the recent Bina Warehouse sale I decided to pick up one to try. I bought the S 150 since that was the largest size. You would think with a name like S 150 the head is 150mm diameter, but in reality it is only 137mm. As you can see from the pic it is noticeably smaller than the Grohe.

Using the hansgrohe the first thing you notice is it is louder. Must be the air injection thing. The water spray is definitely thicker and has a more pulsing feel (very light massaging sensation), probably due to the air injection. The perception is that there is more water. The marketing material says it creates a "more voluminous feeling" and that is certainly true. Later I did test the actual flow rate by filling a bucket and timing it - the hansgrohe does in fact output 20% more water than the Grohe. Aside from that when washing the head and face, yes it does have a slightly softer feel than the Grohe.

So I'm happy switching over to the hansgrohe AIR shower head. Note: to really make full use of these large showerheads you need high water pressure.

BTW both heads are made in Germany.

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QUOTE(adrianjc @ Jul 18 2012, 10:40 PM)
Good brands tend not to get clogged as often for some reason and all it takes is a touch of your finger to get the water flowing again.
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One the nozzle is slightly larger and less chance for limescale to accumulate, and secondly because the nozzle is soft rubbing/touching it dislodges the limescale easily.
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post Aug 31 2012, 02:21 PM

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QUOTE(bhtan @ Jul 14 2011, 11:40 PM)
I like the old Grohe as they were solid and made in Germany. I have one which is so heavy and well built that you know that it will last a lifetime  Now a lot of Grohes are made in Thailand and still carry hefty price tag.
Was checking both manufacturer's websites. For Grohe, 60% are made in Germany. Hansgrohe 80% are made in Germany. The trick is finding out which are the items which are not made in Germany.

At least this site indicates which is from Germany and which from Thailand: http://sanihome-penang.blogspot.com/search/label/Grohe
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QUOTE(jchong @ Aug 31 2012, 12:19 PM)
So I'm happy switching over to the hansgrohe AIR shower head. Note: to really make full use of these large showerheads you need high water pressure.
Any recommendation on shower pump for a double-storey house?

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QUOTE(jack208 @ Sep 1 2012, 06:25 PM)
Any recommendation on shower pump for a double-storey house?
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If have budget can go with Grundfos.
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QUOTE(jchong @ Aug 31 2012, 12:19 PM)
Rainshower head comparison

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Left: Grohe Cosmopolitan, Right: hansgrohe Raindance S 150 AIR 1-Jet

I've been using the Grohe for the last 3+ years. It's a large 160mm diameter head with 4 spray patterns, but I really just use the Rain function. Being such a large head the spray pattern is quite wide. The water spray is medium thickness and has a fine touch.

I've been intrigued by the hansgrohe AIR system for some time but never got one since I was quite happy with the Grohe. Anyway, with the recent Bina Warehouse sale I decided to pick up one to try. I bought the S 150 since that was the largest size. You would think with a name like S 150 the head is 150mm diameter, but in reality it is only 137mm. As you can see from the pic it is noticeably smaller than the Grohe.

Using the hansgrohe the first thing you notice is it is louder. Must be the air injection thing. The water spray is definitely thicker and has a more pulsing feel (very light massaging sensation), probably due to the air injection. The perception is that there is more water. The marketing material says it creates a "more voluminous feeling" and that is certainly true. Later I did test the actual flow rate by filling a bucket and timing it - the hansgrohe does in fact output 20% more water than the Grohe. Aside from that when washing the head and face, yes it does have a slightly softer feel than the Grohe.

So I'm happy switching over to the hansgrohe AIR shower head. Note: to really make full use of these large showerheads you need high water pressure.

BTW both heads are made in Germany.
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You mentioned "the hansgrohe does in fact output 20% more water than the Grohe." does this mean that hansgrohe do not save water? hmm.gif
Just Curious, to me water savings is secondary to "feel". biggrin.gif
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post Sep 3 2012, 07:38 PM

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QUOTE(phoenix69 @ Sep 3 2012, 06:47 PM)
You mentioned "the hansgrohe does in fact output 20% more water than the Grohe." does this mean that hansgrohe do not save water? hmm.gif
Just Curious, to me water savings is secondary to "feel". biggrin.gif
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Correct this model of the hansgrohe does not save water.

Actually most rainshowers are not the water saving type.
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post Sep 3 2012, 07:44 PM

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If is approved by Singapore government mean it have some standard. They have some rating and only approved standard can be legally sell in Sg. Standard as in not above certain flow rate.
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post Sep 3 2012, 09:13 PM

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Yeah for Singapore, the standard is <9 liters/min flow rate for shower mixers and heads.
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QUOTE(jchong @ Sep 3 2012, 07:38 PM)
Actually most rainshowers are not the water saving type.
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QUOTE(jchong @ Sep 3 2012, 09:13 PM)
Yeah for Singapore, the standard is <9 liters/min flow rate for shower mixers and heads.
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If i remember correctly, my hansgrohe rain shower r ECO smart certified, with output of 9L/min smile.gif

I did post some photo in previous page
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