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dares
post Jun 13 2012, 01:20 AM

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QUOTE(sleepy @ Jun 13 2012, 01:14 AM)
Just out of curiosity, how many of the people that has posted here is driving a car equipped with VSC? And for those who has a VSC-enabled car, how many times has it kicked-in, and how many times has it saved your life?

I'm driving a car with VSC but so far, I havent really seen it in action. Even the ABS have not kicked in for once, because I drive moderately. I suppose, the driver matters most in avoiding accidents. Anticipate what the other drivers will do, defensive driving etc etc is the best tool. Technology can only bring you so far, if you put an idiot behind the wheel you'll still end up crashing into something.

I find it funny that some previous comments mentioned that if you love your life, buy a car with VSC. I mean seriously, it's not like your car understeer/go sideways on a daily basis (but if you do, kudos to you la). Any sane driver would not speed into a corner/roundabout and expect vsc to save you from understeer (except f1-wannabe's)

In conclusion, what I'm trying to say here is VSC is something good to have, but its definitely not a necessity.
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The same could be said about ABS, airbags, life insurance, medical cards etc etc I guess. Even the best drivers slip up some times.

They are called emergencies and accidents because you can't predict it, and when it does happen, you'll wish you have those systems.

To write off VSC / ESC / TC as unnecessary is the same as 10 years ago ppl writing off airbags and ABS as rich ppl's toys.

This post has been edited by dares: Jun 13 2012, 01:24 AM
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post Jul 18 2012, 12:55 PM

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QUOTE(kenlye @ Jul 18 2012, 12:52 PM)
may i know is EBD work like VSC?
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No, but VSC needs EBD to work.
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post Jul 18 2012, 12:57 PM

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QUOTE(BuFung @ Jul 18 2012, 12:55 PM)
think the diff between the 2 is..  EBD only distribute force differently between front wheels and rear wheels..

but VSC can do different force in any of the wheels...  VSC help u steer the car when emergency... 

EBD purely helping on reducing the stopping distance...
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Not necessarily just front and back, EBD can work on individual wheels as well.

VSC/ESC/ESP incorporates software and sensors and utilizes EBD to achieve stability during emergencies.
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post Jul 18 2012, 01:06 PM

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QUOTE(kenlye @ Jul 18 2012, 12:59 PM)

Added on July 18, 2012, 1:00 pm
what u so sure about what u said ? any facts? or just your 2 cents?
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I got my 2 cents from Wikipedia rolleyes.gif

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electronic_br...ce_distribution

choice quote from the article....
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....ABS helps prevent wheel lock-up and EBD helps apply appropriate brake force to make ESC work effectively....


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post Jul 18 2012, 01:15 PM

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QUOTE(kepalapening @ Jul 18 2012, 01:10 PM)
You should cite a more reputable articles (books/journals/research papers).
Anybody can write anything in Wikipedia.
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Will howstuffworks.com work then?

http://auto.howstuffworks.com/car-driving-...stribution2.htm

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EBD can then correct the steering by activating one of the rear brakes. For instance, if the car begins to understeer, the inner rear brake is activated to increase the car's rotation. If the car begins to oversteer, the outer rear brake is activated to decrease the car's rotation. The yaw sensor can also be used in conjunction with electronic stability control (ESC) to prevent rollover accidents.


WTF am I trying to prove? doh.gif are people so skeptical as to believe EBD and ESC/VSC is the same thing?
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post Oct 14 2012, 07:56 PM

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QUOTE(zweimmk @ Oct 14 2012, 06:57 PM)
A friend of mine that went to a Toyota focus group held very recently for the new Camry told me most people listed the following as priorities in selecting a car.

Brand power
Resale value
After sales service/ ease of service

According to him, in a room of 8. Only 1 person listed safety as a critical requirement when buying a car. Brand power was always the first thing that came out from everyone's mouth. In other words, a lot of Malaysians prefer to have a decent branded car than being in a car that protect them from serious accidents. Go figure :/
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Probably because most people think cars with that three attributes are automatically deemed safe.

I guess with the results from this focus group, The next Vios will not come with any airbags rolleyes.gif

 

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