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Hobbies Fishing Thread V9, Let the reels go crazy!

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post Jul 16 2012, 12:58 PM

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QUOTE(fookie @ Jul 16 2012, 12:58 PM)
how much member fees?
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mine punya free jer... rory punya kena ada dada ler... MuaHaHaHa... laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

bro rory,
called but didn't pick up.. will try later.. or you wanna ask his cousin?


Added on July 16, 2012, 1:22 pmok.. talk to him... asked her cousin to arrange..

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post Jul 16 2012, 01:26 PM

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my club no membership fee. It's membership free - LIFETIME!!

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post Jul 16 2012, 08:34 PM

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QUOTE(1dollar @ Jul 12 2012, 03:18 PM)
New unit bought from Ebay,.. couldnt resist the cheap price!
Saw in kepong selling 670 and some kaki here bought 400
I only paid 287 ringgit lol,.. brand new unit in box.

I've emailed the seller in US liao,.. reputable seller with proper shop.
Hope he respond back... but i rugi another round of shipping cost.
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Bro have u got the item yet? All i know the custom will tax u for it...my bro bought a few bags from US

and i ended up going to pos m'sia lcct to get it....btw bro we have meet at jurassic pond during the lowyat event....

While im here would like to ask opinion on a bait casting rod and reels....budget rm400-500 la...got lots of plastic lures but cant fully release its potential with a spinning rod...maybe my fishing skills sucks la....ahahaha

Hope the sifus here cAn help me out la.. icon_question.gif
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post Jul 16 2012, 09:35 PM

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QUOTE(rorytate @ Jul 16 2012, 09:38 AM)
Well, this is what i know...

Casting distance Braid vs Mono (assuming casting at the same weight of 12g)
20lb braided vs 20lb mono on a BC setup

1. Line diameter - 20lb braided is definitely thinner thus lessen the air friction.
2. Line weight - 20lb braided is definitely lighter thus not causing any drag

Logically based on the above deduction, braided line definitely will surpass the distance comparo to mono line. Anyone has any comments? smile.gif

As for the braided line to use mono leader due to few reasons.
1. Braided line does not have any stretch, having a leader at the front, absorbs the shock for hook setting
2. Braided line, due to it's thin diameter, is not much of a abrasion resistance. Mono is better on this as it's thicker and with different material.

FYI bro Katsumoto, my definition of mono leader is not those reel mono as per se. Leader for braids are usually based on 3 main criteria, Material made of, Stiffness and Diameter.

Leader types(as per my own knowledge and experience)
1. Regular Mono Leader(could not find any pics, but it's those in a roll and around RM0.50 per roll type. Cheap and useable)
2. Shock Leader
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3. Fluorocarbon Leader
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4. Titanium Leader
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5. Fluorocarbon + Shock Leader
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Usually, these good quality leaders' will burn a hole in our pocket. Some as cheap as RM0.50 and branded ones goes from RM80 to RM150 for 20M of leader!!

To me personal usage, as i have used most of the above mentioned, it caters to it's own special use too.
1. The regular mono, i use for my regular Snakehead hunting
2. Shock Leader, i use for trips that goes into the wild for Snakehead. We may not know how snaggy the place qould be, and having better quality leaders would minimize the chances of busting.
3. Fluorocarbon Leader, trip that is high fishing pressure areas. Finesse fishing or targeting PB.
4. Titanium Leader, trips that goes into the wild for Snakehead or Plabuk(BSR) and particularly for popping
5. Fluorocarbon + Shock, purely for jigging trips only.

Hope these helps smile.gif
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currently i m facing a problem where i cant cast far enough , i ask my friend that was fishing together he says ask me to change to braid line
i m using trilene big game 20 pound for main line and xzoga 50lb for leader , the xzoga belong to my friend he say is better to use that in case get hook on big pacu the 20lb line will break or snap due to pacu shape teeth

the pond we fish is a small size and the pacu nest is on the opposite site of the lake , so you have to cast to the opposite side of the lake .
my friend using powerpro 30 pound and same leader can cast to the opposite side , but in my case all i can do is around 60% of his range.

since his bait land right near to the nest , he get bite quite fast .while i have to wait for long time to get 1 .

so i m tempted to change my main line, but i go check at tackler shop that powerpro line was expansive , 1 box 30 pound cost around rm120
is there any alternative maybe a lighter mono line ??? 15lb 10lb ?? ?? but in that case will the line hold against pacu ???


and 1 more thing is i dont get how does the 50lb xzoga line is thinner then my 20lb line , when i hold both line together i can feel that my 20lb line is thicker then his 50lb line rclxub.gif rclxub.gif rclxub.gif

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This post has been edited by katsumoto2011: Jul 16 2012, 09:37 PM
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Casting distance is affected by a lot of things, how long ur rod, what action, ur guides ok or not, ur reel, how you spool your reel, etc.

So not necessarily because of line, although it does make a difference.

What setup are you on?

Btw to lessen the impact of pacu teeth, i find longer hooks useful.
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QUOTE(jedi_master @ Jul 16 2012, 10:52 PM)
Casting distance  is affected by a lot of things, how long ur rod, what action, ur guides ok or not, ur reel, how you spool your reel, etc.

So not necessarily because of line, although it does make a difference.

What setup are you on?

Btw to lessen the impact of pacu teeth, i find longer hooks useful.
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6.6 ft ugly stick medium action , new brought only use twice

reel is abu gracia citrus 3000 also use twice only

line is berkley trilene 20 pound .
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post Jul 17 2012, 01:04 AM

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Bro katsumoto, where r u fishing?
how big is the pacu? 50lb leader,thru ur statement I assumed that the pacu are atleast 10kg above ?if not u would need that big poundage leader 20-30lbs nelayan leader would do.BTW, if is uglystick rod, maybe it's becoz of the fiberglass tip
Just my 2cent

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QUOTE(takeshiru @ Jul 16 2012, 08:34 PM)
Bro have u got the item yet? All i know the custom will tax u for it...my bro bought a few bags from US

and i ended up going to pos m'sia lcct to get it....btw bro we have meet at jurassic pond during the lowyat event....

While im here would like to ask opinion on a bait casting rod and reels....budget rm400-500 la...got lots of plastic lures but cant fully release its potential with a spinning rod...maybe my fishing skills sucks la....ahahaha

Hope the sifus here cAn help me out la.. icon_question.gif
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even spinning setup can release the potential. i find that baitcast setup is only helpful in getting accuracy and decrease the time the time it takes for you to cast the lure, but only by a fraction.
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post Jul 17 2012, 08:19 AM

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Katsumoto.. ur setup sounds pretty normal. Just that medium action rods tend to need a bit more strength when casting. And ur bait needs to be slightly heavier..

After you cast, does your line look like a spring or straight?
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post Jul 17 2012, 09:29 AM

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Bro Katsumoto,

This is what i think plus a few solution for you smile.gif

1. You need not put any more leader for your Berkley Trilene Big Game. The 20lb mono main line is sufficient. The reason why the name BIG GAME is for the high tensile strength and thicker diameter line to prevent abrasion and making the line more lasak. Personally i think, if the Pacu want to whack your line, 100lb also putus, irregardless of poundage smile.gif

2. You may want to use a longer shank hooks. If you reacted fast enough, the strike should be at the shank, not causing the line to be bitten.

3. In comparison of your friend's setup, he is having much thinner and lighter line compares to you. MUCH MORE LIGHTER!! Your 20lb Triline Big Game diameter is 0.022inch VS Power Pro 30lb at 0.011inch diameter. Obviously with much bigger diameter line denotes a few points here. Your line is heavy. Your line is against the air - not aerodynamic biggrin.gif AND causing short distance. smile.gif

4. I can feel your frustration over this matter. Let me help you choosing a good line but you have to trust my judgements smile.gif Just spare me RM50 for your line, if you do not satisfied after using a few time(eg: prematurely snap), i PERSONALLY will give you money back guarantee biggrin.gif

Getting the distance is not much a problem, all you need to do is to have the right combo setup smile.gif The ultimate problem for all Anglers is to get the fish to BITE!

Can i suggest you to give me a call at my mobile? 0162110891 and i will guide you accordingly smile.gif


Added on July 17, 2012, 9:45 amGood Morning Bro Takeshiru,
Said you attended the LYN Jurassic Pond event, may i know what is your name? I would like to put a face to the name You could PM me too

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post Jul 17 2012, 10:11 AM

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QUOTE(takeshiru @ Jul 16 2012, 08:34 PM)
Bro have u got the item yet? All i know the custom will tax u for it...my bro bought a few bags from US

and i ended up going to pos m'sia lcct to get it....btw bro we have meet at jurassic pond during the lowyat event....

While im here would like to ask opinion on a bait casting rod and reels....budget rm400-500 la...got lots of plastic lures but cant fully release its potential with a spinning rod...maybe my fishing skills sucks la....ahahaha

Hope the sifus here cAn help me out la.. icon_question.gif
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Got my reel liao.. bidding for more. I kena ebay shopping frenzy. Especially bidding addiction.
I am sure we have met but i dont recall or remember your face with your nick, no tax if you bring in 1-2 items.
This round of shipping only 1 reel, more to come this month. Gonna buy some cheap china made replica lures by bulk.
Bidding for some used rapala Lots, rods and more BC reels. As for soft plastics, I prefer them on my light spinning setup, casting 1/4-1/8oz with very good distance. Add on those small clip on drop shot weights and you can go even further.

Within your budget for BC,.. i can get you 300 for a fine setup if you arent too particular bout brands and what not.
I was at kepong helping a friend to shop, we walked out with a BC setup below RM300.
Go get the Banax Big SHoot (Rm120) full graphite and plastic on mag brakes. Really smooth and damn good buy for the price.
Abu Vengance rod RM125 and spider wire 15lb code red about RM36. Enough to buy Xzoga 20lbs flouro leader also.
There were cheaper Rods also but its up to you,... maybe if you wanna invest on the rod,.. get the new Fenwick ELite smallmouth... love that rod
8-14lbs and its whippy going for RM255 in Ocean Sea, 253 in Kepong and 250 in Digital Puchong.

Other BC reels you may wanna consider
Shimano Caenan approx RM250
Abu garcia Promax 1 approx 190-210
Abu Promax 2 - 280
Team Seahawk Infinity bass II - RM230

They are all good BC reels with graphite frames.

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post Jul 17 2012, 10:42 AM

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WOW!

Very much bang for buck! Abu Vengeance casting rod for RM125?

Care to share the specs? Am looking for a 7~8feet 10~20lb rod biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(rorytate @ Jul 17 2012, 10:42 AM)
WOW!

Very much bang for buck! Abu Vengeance casting rod for RM125?

Care to share the specs? Am looking for a 7~8feet 10~20lb rod biggrin.gif
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aiyoo... sifu level why need 7-8 feet... bikin kacau on boat aje lah... casting distance still same maa... biggrin.gif

btw, for abu vengeance RM 125 quite tempting... drool.gif
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QUOTE(rorytate @ Jul 17 2012, 10:42 AM)
WOW!

Very much bang for buck! Abu Vengeance casting rod for RM125?

Care to share the specs? Am looking for a 7~8feet 10~20lb rod biggrin.gif
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Vengance is entry model for Abu. 6'6" 8-17lb avg priced RM125
Not too pro with the prices for anything longer than 6'6", whats your budget and when you need?
I usually go window shopping on Saturdays, will keep an eye for you.
lately the Korean brand Boosna popping like mushrooms in major tackle shops, decent pricing 120-280. Quality also not too bad.
Kepong a lot of shimano amenista rods but way out of my budget, else you may wanna try SS4 tackle for Major Craft rods.
Kepong sponsored Jurassic some rods which i find em very good for its price, 96 bucks only heard its local made but the strengh was fantastic.
Check with Jeffrey, cant remmeber the brand it was 10-20lb if i recall, we cast a lure across the pond at jurassic with the caenan.

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QUOTE(daddyVW @ Jul 17 2012, 11:16 AM)
aiyoo... sifu level why need 7-8 feet... bikin kacau on boat aje lah... casting distance still same maa... biggrin.gif

btw, for abu vengeance RM 125 quite tempting...  drool.gif
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Bro Daddy,
have a special purpose for this rod. wink.gif


Added on July 17, 2012, 11:22 am
QUOTE(1dollar @ Jul 17 2012, 11:17 AM)
Vengance is entry model for Abu. 6'6" 8-17lb avg priced RM125
Not too pro with the prices for anything longer than 6'6", whats your budget and when you need?
I usually go window shopping on Saturdays, will keep an eye for you.
lately the Korean brand Boosna popping like mushrooms in major tackle shops, decent pricing 120-280. Quality also not too bad.
Kepong a lot of shimano amenista rods but way out of my budget, else you may wanna try SS4 tackle for Major Craft rods.
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Am looking for something heavy... somewhere around 12~20lb or 15~30lb but a casting version. Something that would suit an Avet SX smile.gif


Added on July 17, 2012, 11:23 amAdd in... Rod to be 7ft or 8ft biggrin.gif

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QUOTE(rorytate @ Jul 17 2012, 11:20 AM)
Bro Daddy,
have a special purpose for this rod. wink.gif


Added on July 17, 2012, 11:22 am

Am looking for something heavy... somewhere around 12~20lb or 15~30lb but a casting version. Something that would suit an Avet SX smile.gif


Added on July 17, 2012, 11:23 amAdd in... Rod to be 7ft or 8ft biggrin.gif
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Wooo.... got new toy aaa... drool.gif
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post Jul 17 2012, 11:45 AM

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OK noted MH-H power.
oooooooooooo avet,.. nice power eel.
Fresh water type type of rods,... watch out for you.
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QUOTE(1dollar @ Jul 17 2012, 10:11 AM)
Got my reel liao.. bidding for more. I kena ebay shopping frenzy. Especially bidding addiction.
I am sure we have met but i dont recall or remember your face with your nick, no tax if you bring in 1-2 items.
This round of shipping only 1 reel, more to come this month. Gonna buy some cheap china made replica lures by bulk.
Bidding for some used rapala Lots, rods and more BC reels. As for soft plastics, I prefer them on my light spinning setup, casting 1/4-1/8oz with very good distance. Add on those small clip on drop shot weights and you can go even further.

Within your budget for BC,.. i can get you 300 for a fine setup if you arent too particular bout brands and what not.
I was at kepong helping a friend to shop, we walked out with a BC setup below RM300.
Go get the Banax Big SHoot (Rm120) full graphite and plastic on mag brakes. Really smooth and damn good buy for the price.
Abu Vengance rod RM125 and spider wire 15lb code red about RM36. Enough to buy Xzoga 20lbs flouro leader also.
There were cheaper Rods also but its up to you,... maybe if you wanna invest on the rod,.. get the new Fenwick ELite smallmouth... love that rod
8-14lbs and its whippy going for RM255 in Ocean Sea, 253 in Kepong and 250 in Digital Puchong.

Other BC reels you may wanna consider
Shimano Caenan approx RM250
Abu garcia Promax 1 approx 190-210
Abu Promax 2 - 280
Team Seahawk Infinity bass II - RM230

They are all good BC reels with graphite frames.
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Can tumpang your shipping back to MY or not?
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QUOTE(daddyVW @ Jul 17 2012, 11:33 AM)
Wooo.... got new toy aaa... drool.gif
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nothing special about that reel except for pure sheer drag power. I tested max at 10kg/20lb drag power with free spooling, and i changed the drag plates to carbon type, it increases to close to 17kg/34lb drag. However the intention of upgrading the drag is not meant to dead-lock the reel, but it's more towards giving leverage to the drag power and smoothness. smile.gif

Good popping and jigging reel too, since it's a narrow spool.

The new toy is the Caranx Kaibutsu STC and a few more icon_idea.gif


Added on July 17, 2012, 12:36 pm
QUOTE(1dollar @ Jul 17 2012, 11:45 AM)
OK noted MH-H power.
oooooooooooo avet,.. nice power eel.
Fresh water type type of rods,... watch out for you.
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Yeah MH to H. Prefer if the rod is fast taper action too biggrin.gif

I had thought of getting a popping rod, but it's too heavy for the application of fresh water. Worst case, i custom my own smile.gif

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