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Hobbies Fishing Thread V9, Let the reels go crazy!

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1dollar
post May 30 2012, 06:44 PM

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Dear Sifoo,

How does the gear ratio in the reels impact our fishing?
I mean like what sort of ratio used for what kind of fishing methods?

BC got 5, 6 , 7
Spinning for 4

vioxmonsta
post May 30 2012, 08:28 PM

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The gear ratio of a reel indicates how many times the bail arm makes a full 360 degree rotation for each full turn of the reel handle. For example if the reel has a gear ratio of 5:1 that means that the bail arm will travel around the spool 5 times for each full turn of the handle. If the ratio is 4.2:1 then the bail arm revolves around the spool 4.2 times for every single full turn of the reel handle and so on.

Many anglers tend to go for the fastest ratio, believing that faster is better, but this is often not the case. Certainly for high speed spinning, or some jigging applications the ability of the reel to quickly retrieve the lure is important, but in most other forms of fishing high speed is not only not essential, it is in fact undesirable.For example, when finesse fishing with soft plastics, a slower retrieve speed is often more effective in enticing strikes. Attempting to retrieve the lure slowly using a high speed reel is a difficult and sometimes frustrating technique to master.Another disadvantage of high speed reels is that they lack pulling power. They simply lack the grunt when trying to pull large fish up from the deep. And whilst the rod should do most of the work when pulling up fish, a lower gear ratio is definitely an advantage. It’s a bit like trying to ride a bicycle up a step hill in top gear. You end up doing a lot of peddling but not getting anywhere fast, whereas a lower gear would enable you to climb the hill with relative ease.Another point to keep in mind is that a reels gear ratio does not actually indicate the reels retrieve ratio. By that I mean that even though one reel might have a higher gear ratio, another reel with a lower gear ratio might actually retrieve the same length of line for each full turn of the reels handle. This is because the amount of line that is retrieved is dependant on the size of the spool and length of the handle as much as it is dependant on the gear ratio.


To better understand this, imagine a large spinning reel with a long handle and large spool circumference, yet a relatively modest gear ratio of 4.1:1. Now imagine a smaller 1000 size reel with shorter handle and small spool circumference, but with a high speed 6.3:1 gear ratio. You might assume that the smaller reel wuld retrieve line faster, but due to the differences in handle length and spool circumference, it’s possible that both reels would retrieve exactly the same length of line for each full turn of the reel handle.

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i'm finding it harder and harder to find right hand retrieve bc...went to digital in puchong today and got a better offer for the curado g for 385 but yet again all lefty...ended up spending on lures...zzzzz

btw they are having promotion for duel lures...duel zombie at 18-19bucks and another series (forgot da name de) for 22 but can see memang is damn old stock coz the box addi yellowish. Can wallop their sure catch lures though i got a couple of minnow for 11+ and a popper for 14. Very affordable if you ask me especially for those just started luring like me....
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post May 30 2012, 08:48 PM

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So safe to say,... better get a 5 or 6 gear ratio on a BC reel for our fresh water game fish. More cranking power and slower speed. ok noted.
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QUOTE(evildonkey @ May 30 2012, 08:42 PM)
i'm finding it harder and harder to find right hand retrieve bc...went to digital in puchong today and got a better offer for the curado g for 385 but yet again all lefty...ended up spending on lures...zzzzz

btw they are having promotion for duel lures...duel zombie at 18-19bucks and another series (forgot da name de) for 22 but can see memang is damn old stock coz the box addi yellowish. Can wallop their sure catch lures though i got a couple of minnow for 11+ and a popper for 14. Very affordable if you ask me especially for those just started luring like me....
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Bro where's this digital tackle in puchong?
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it's at puchong prima the shoplots opposite the mosque
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post May 30 2012, 11:33 PM

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QUOTE(vioxmonsta @ May 30 2012, 08:28 PM)
The gear ratio of a reel indicates how many times the bail arm makes a full 360 degree rotation for each full turn of the reel handle. For example if the reel has a gear ratio of 5:1 that means that the bail arm will travel around the spool 5 times for each full turn of the handle. If the ratio is 4.2:1 then the bail arm revolves around the spool 4.2 times for every single full turn of the reel handle and so on.

Many anglers tend to go for the fastest ratio, believing that faster is better, but this is often not the case. Certainly for high speed spinning, or some jigging applications the ability of the reel to quickly retrieve the lure is important, but in most other forms of fishing high speed is not only not essential, it is in fact undesirable.For example, when finesse fishing with soft plastics, a slower retrieve speed is often more effective in enticing strikes. Attempting to retrieve the lure slowly using a high speed reel is a difficult and sometimes frustrating technique to master.Another disadvantage of high speed reels is that they lack pulling power. They simply lack the grunt when trying to pull large fish up from the deep. And whilst the rod should do most of the work when pulling up fish, a lower gear ratio is definitely an advantage. It’s a bit like trying to ride a bicycle up a step hill in top gear. You end up doing a lot of peddling but not getting anywhere fast, whereas a lower gear would enable you to climb the hill with relative ease.Another point to keep in mind is that a reels gear ratio does not actually indicate the reels retrieve ratio. By that I mean that even though one reel might have a higher gear ratio, another reel with a lower gear ratio might actually retrieve the same length of line for each full turn of the reels handle. This is because the amount of line that is retrieved is dependant on the size of the spool and length of the handle as much as it is dependant on the gear ratio.
To better understand this, imagine a large spinning reel with a long handle and large spool circumference, yet a relatively modest gear ratio of 4.1:1. Now imagine a smaller 1000 size reel with shorter handle and small spool circumference, but with a high speed 6.3:1 gear ratio. You might assume that the smaller reel wuld retrieve line faster, but due to the differences in handle length and spool circumference, it’s possible that both reels would retrieve exactly the same length of line for each full turn of the reel handle.
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Bro Viox,
Nicely written and well said. Like my Revo Mgx, it is a 7.1(or 7.9, I couldn't remember) it is stated as IPT the same as 6.3.

Ultimately, faster gearing = fast reeling in, slower gearing = cranking power. That's why Shimano have 2 reel set even tho same size and model, take twin power for example.

For me, slower gearing for jigging, faster gearing for popping. A good match definitely reduces alot of body fatigue and more control


Added on May 31, 2012, 9:52 amAdd in from Abu Garcia's website
REVOLUTIONARY COMPACT DESIGN
Because this reel is so much more compact and ergonomic than anything on the market today, we introduced new gear ratios for the MGX that provide similar line retrieve rates as other existing Revo reels. The Revo MGX 7.1:1 gear ratio provides similar inches per turn "IPT" to other standard 6.4:1 Revo models (28" IPT). The Revo MGX 7.9:1 high speed gear ratio model provides similar IPT to other 7.1:1 high speed Revo models (31" IPT).

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post May 31 2012, 11:38 AM

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Bro Rory, need to pau few pieces of hooks from u jor..tackle shop ran out size of the hooks I wanted to buy.
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post May 31 2012, 11:41 AM

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wat hooks?

single hooks?
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post May 31 2012, 11:59 AM

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QUOTE(vioxmonsta @ May 31 2012, 11:38 AM)
Bro Rory, need to pau few  pieces of hooks from u jor..tackle shop ran out size of the hooks I wanted to buy.
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You tried SS2? When i bought mine there were plenty, what size you looking for? I have some size 6 for my micro lures.
I will be going there tomorrow to get more, a lot of shops sold out. Tackle shop say Rawang to be blamed for the good hook sales lol.
Decoy Plugin going bout RM12.80 per pack, Owner about 8 and 5 ish depending on size.

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post May 31 2012, 12:10 PM

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Usually i take size 1
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post May 31 2012, 12:46 PM

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QUOTE(rorytate @ May 31 2012, 11:41 AM)
wat hooks?

single hooks?
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Yea single hook, lure size SR -9
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post May 31 2012, 12:57 PM

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ah.. those size i got smile.gif

SR9 you can mount a size 2 on the belly and size 1 at the tail... Wide wiggle actions biggrin.gif
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post May 31 2012, 01:29 PM

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i whack a lot of my lure with size 1/0 and 2/0 these days coz i'm getting bigger and bigger lures LOL
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QUOTE(evildonkey @ May 31 2012, 01:29 PM)
i whack a lot of my lure with size 1/0 and 2/0 these days coz i'm getting bigger and bigger lures LOL
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3-5cm and gram lure with hook size 1 and 2? Swimming action koyak ke tak ?

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post May 31 2012, 01:40 PM

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I am using size 4 with my 7cm-9cm lures. bigger than that, im using normal 1/0 hooks with double split ring.

cant find 1/0 single lure hooks. sad.gif
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post May 31 2012, 02:01 PM

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yar lah.. most tackle shop now out of single hook stock... starting last week... must be b'cos this TT... wink.gif wink.gif wink.gif
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post May 31 2012, 02:41 PM

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jia lat lo..those diam diam 1 sure sapu all d.

Bro rory,u tried fishing at klang gate dam b4? or empangan sungai langat?

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QUOTE(vioxmonsta @ May 31 2012, 02:41 PM)
jia lat lo..those diam diam 1 sure sapu all d.

Bro rory,u tried fishing at klang gate dam b4? or empangan sungai langat?
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both places are rectricted area... shakehead.gif shakehead.gif shakehead.gif
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post May 31 2012, 05:08 PM

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QUOTE(vioxmonsta @ May 31 2012, 02:41 PM)
jia lat lo..those diam diam 1 sure sapu all d.

Bro rory,u tried fishing at klang gate dam b4? or empangan sungai langat?
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I have been fishing there before but unfortunately only can get small size fishes.
But the difficulty parts is , you need to jungle trekking inside ( aro 15-30 mins ) before you get to the spot.

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