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 Are property prices going to up further? V3

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kochin
post Aug 5 2011, 03:36 PM

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QUOTE(TheDoer @ Aug 5 2011, 03:34 PM)
I noted  that the chinaman company I worked for did better than the MNC company, because they foresaw the crisis, and started cost cutting measures 2 years before.
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post Aug 5 2011, 03:39 PM

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manufacturing sector slowdown due to us cut spending > factory cut production (worldwide) > stock crash (worldwide) > lost jobs in product export related sector to us (direct/indirect) > no $$ to service loan > financial institute or relator sector get trouble, lost jobs to this sector as well > prop bust... > bankrupt for certain ppl > social problem increases...

This senario will take at least 2 years to complete STARTED NOW and repeated from times to times over years.
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QUOTE(sampool @ Aug 5 2011, 03:39 PM)
This senario will take at least 2 years to complete STARTED NOW and repeated from times to times over years.
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it'll be faster this time as info and $ move around the globe at much faster pace today.
for props, i would be less concerned with major developers with a strong balance sheet, fair to well established areas.
even less concerned if buying for own stay.
most vulnerable will be weak unknown developers in brand new areas. esp those that sell with high grr and/or shopping malls.
some will delay, some will abandon, some might not even start.

tmrw, gomen will say all is fine, dun worry, inflation low, we're different, we're special... vote @#$% tongue.gif

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kochin
post Aug 5 2011, 03:53 PM

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i think i mention before, at such volatile times, one needs to be extra careful if not more emphasis on buying from who rather than buying how much or buying what products.
new developers, especially those really new or non-public listed ones, does not have much motivation to complete project versus cash in hand.

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post Aug 5 2011, 03:53 PM

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PLEASE DO NOT PANIC ... JUST KEEP REMINDING YOURSELF "LIFE IS GOOD"
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post Aug 5 2011, 04:01 PM

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QUOTE(sampool @ Aug 5 2011, 04:39 PM)
manufacturing sector slowdown due to us cut spending > factory cut production (worldwide) > stock crash (worldwide) > lost jobs in product export related sector to us (direct/indirect) > no $$ to service loan > financial institute or relator sector get trouble, lost jobs to this sector as well > prop bust... > bankrupt for certain ppl > social problem increases...

This senario will take at least 2 years to complete STARTED NOW and repeated from times to times over years.
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additional end result of the senario..... u can get cheaper products (from shoe to real estate)... as too much products (why? because the factory cannot close all.. they still sell products, with CHEAP)... a supply-over-demand issue will be created in sudden...

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post Aug 5 2011, 04:04 PM

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QUOTE(dlyw1103 @ Aug 5 2011, 03:53 PM)
PLEASE DO NOT PANIC ... JUST KEEP REMINDING YOURSELF "LIFE IS GOOD"
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seriously though.
some unlisted companies which of late (last 2 years) have been launching like mad. GDV more than rm1b with confirmed sales.
10% collected for SPA oledi rm100mil cash.
commercial projects with changed terms of commencement of earthwork and foundation instead of completion. claim another 10%. that's another rm100mil cash.
rm200mil in cash with payout of probably less than rm20mil so far.
rm180mil will tempt a lot of people. me included. rolleyes.gif

replicate on a smaller scale, say the directors are sitting on a pile of say rm50mil.
WHAT WOULD YOU DO IF YOU ARE IN THEIR SHOES?
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post Aug 5 2011, 04:13 PM

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I so proud most of u all now happy mindset and topic title is positive thumbup.gif
now most bank valuation & sub sale price top-up diff is ridiculous rclxub.gif
but opportunity still available, although it is getting smaller laugh.gif

the prop mkt is not as volatile as share mkt. if got excess cash, standby share mkt mega sales drool.gif
research shows that the third year of a bull market is often choppy hmm.gif
irregardless prop prices wil still up, unless we can see >2 quarters of negative growth to signal a recession tongue.gif

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post Aug 5 2011, 04:22 PM

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So does this mean we have to abort and Eject or what?
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post Aug 5 2011, 04:29 PM

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haha one news only everybody so gen jiong

cannot imagine if one week continuous such news biggrin.gif biggrin.gif


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post Aug 5 2011, 04:39 PM

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QUOTE(venven81 @ Aug 5 2011, 03:05 PM)
i for one is looking for a decent landed property for own stay. 4 months back the price for a 22"x70" d/s terrace was selling at RM530k and now the similarly sized unit is asking for RM590k! the initial launching price for this unit was RM450k (that was about 8 months back). that is like what, 30% increase since its launch and i think it's really ridiculous  mad.gif  i really hope that the price will stay where it is (drop will be even better but very unlikely that will happen) and stop the investors from making crazily lots of money from middle class income earner like myself! damnit!
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QUOTE(garagesell @ Aug 5 2011, 11:40 AM)
all the price jack up by f***ing agent.. u guys agreed? they simply simply jack the price without f***ing knowledge.  if base on bank.. how f***ing real market price. my housing area here... terrace house can go for 1.5mil nia ma.. ghost only will buy. 3 years no one interested. HAHA. all agent problem. tell owner can can.. can sell.. sell my cock!
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post Aug 5 2011, 05:42 PM

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QUOTE(venven81 @ Aug 5 2011, 03:05 PM)
i for one is looking for a decent landed property for own stay. 4 months back the price for a 22"x70" d/s terrace was selling at RM530k and now the similarly sized unit is asking for RM590k! the initial launching price for this unit was RM450k (that was about 8 months back). that is like what, 30% increase since its launch and i think it's really ridiculous  mad.gif  i really hope that the price will stay where it is (drop will be even better but very unlikely that will happen) and stop the investors from making crazily lots of money from middle class income earner like myself! damnit!
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LOL... couldn't help much.. rolleyes.gif ...who asked you wait for dropping in value that time? you should buy in that time and even now on. tongue.gif


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QUOTE(keithcky @ Aug 5 2011, 04:29 PM)
haha one news only everybody so gen jiong

cannot imagine if one week continuous such news  biggrin.gif  biggrin.gif
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then 1 week everybody gan jiong ~
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post Aug 5 2011, 07:28 PM

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QUOTE(junfu1988 @ Aug 5 2011, 07:11 PM)
then 1 week everybody gan jiong ~
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continuous 1 month drop you may see ppl sh*t on their pants....
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post Aug 5 2011, 08:27 PM

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Need more correction..... The waiting game has just started.... See who got more patient seller or buyers
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post Aug 5 2011, 09:48 PM

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QUOTE(yoki @ Aug 5 2011, 09:27 PM)
Need more correction..... The waiting game has just started.... See who got more patient seller or buyers
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human behaviour is react slowly to the recession.. this is natural law.... that is y more patient is needed..
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post Aug 5 2011, 10:10 PM

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hey guy,
be observe this prop market in asia over a year and half now,three year ago that western reccesion after lehman brother go down,it does not bring down the asia market becouse is only western world over borrowing, but it does not mean asia donot have crasis,,,,,it will eventully just wait and see....western world is now in debt and asia now is over leverege to stir up the prop,share and ect..



Peter Jones at Master Builders Australia is blaming "uncertainty". The irony is that it would make far more sense to blame "certainty".

It is quite certain that Australia's housing bubble is now in crash mode. It is equally certain there is not a damn thing the Reserve Bank of Australia or any of the home builders can do about

-----Eighty-Five Australian Building and Construction Firms Go Under in a Month; Crazy to Buy a House in Australia Now-------------
http://globaleconomicanalysis.blogspot.com...ilding-and.html


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post Aug 6 2011, 01:00 AM

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Whole world share market crashed, will prop market follow suit? Wish i have the crystal ball.
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post Aug 6 2011, 01:16 AM

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QUOTE(TheDoer @ Aug 5 2011, 01:50 PM)
Actually it's not just the agent. It's the prop speculators first.  They buy to make a profit, this is why they'll never sell you market rate.

They also represent the people whom will buy those props and crazy prices, because they think they can sell it back again.
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not so agree with u. if all the agent told owner, cant sell at that price, then i believe price will not go higher! maybe we can say demand is still high outside there?

we need to know one thing, those load with cash they can buy with huge cash and whatever high price of the property it wont be a matter for them. so, we need to kill out this category of people first!
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post Aug 6 2011, 10:11 AM

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haha...i will buy more if the price soften! especially commercial prop. now preparing more bullets. I hv prepared lot of ammo during 1997 asia financial crisis but cant get even one firesales (resident or commercial). all sapu-ed by Hartadana. hope this time i can accumulate more units.

i still believe in long run the commercial units will be in high demand in KL coz it is not nice all malays operate their biz at outdoor gerai2, uptown, pasar malam etc. ultimately they need proper shop. otherwise it is not fair to the shops who pay rental or installments (especially malay) to sell the same products eg clothing, shoe, watch, toy, hardware, foods, drinks etc.
i travel to many countries but have not seen a city like KL has so many gerai2 next to established commercial area (and create jam too)

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