To me the VW car that i'll consider if i'm in hunt for are only the Scirocco & pre-facelift Passat CC... That's the only VW's that are beautiful...

But the facelifted CC are ruined by this shitz design language...

Previously whenever I encountered a VW, say Golf GTi, I always say to myself nothing shocking... Not ugly, not a beauty..

But when saw the pics or the real car like , Optima, Sorento, Sportage, Veloster, XC60, Q7, Guilietta, DS4, DS3, Sonata, Accord, A4,E-Class, CRZ, all the beauties

I always admired the looks of each vehicle.... And started to think of how pleasing they are to my eyes...

But with almost all current VW cars, I can't brain.... Sometimes very fugly....

Exactly! The only good looking models are the Scirocco and Passat CC. And now the facelifted Passat has become worse than its predecessor. VW have developed such good transmissions and engines and yet they cant improve on their design. European or otherwise, the fact is their designs both interior and exterior are bland and outdated. If they can give good designs to the Scirocco and Passat CC, why cant they do the same with the other models?

VW need to take some cues from Kia/Hyundai on this.

kia hire audi's designer.. so get audi 1 better..

Does anybody know how's the sales for the Kia Optima since the launch? I dont mean the usual salesman crap talk but actual numbers.

well low range model conti cars lack of that wow factor.

What's low for you? The 1.8TSI PAssat looks like crap while the Peugeot 508 1.6L looks far better. Its not about ranges.

to me,low range model for conti cars as in lower cc engine

EVen Phaeton lokks like shit... And that's a W12... not puny little angine...

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Added on February 4, 2012, 11:31 pm+1... the deign is so bland... Even Satria Neo looks better than Golf... To me VW car got no WOW! factor interms of design...

Me think if VW ventures into making supercar, the design will be so boxy.... Just look at EOS... fugly..

This post has been edited by masz94: Feb 4 2012, 11:31 PM

does anyone know which showroom can test drive optima k5

I'm also asking about it long2 time ago but still no reply...

today has been went to kia showroom nearby federal highway but unfortunately cant test drive

perhaps different people have different taste.

Ferrari F1 just launch their new design F1 car, they said its ugly looking, but i don't think its ugly.

"beauty beholds in the eye of the beholder"

Just put down a booking fee, I'm sure they will oblige

Btw, word is the next batch of K5's coming in 2012 are still 2011 models.

Can anyone verify this?

VW car in Malaysia to me is pretty overrated n over price... They r good car, but really too pricey...

Vw do have plenty of sport car under their group...

Me know.. Bugatti, AUdi, Lambo, Seat... etc...

But if they were to make one under their brand, using this shitz design language, it'll be hell fugly kar..

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Added on February 5, 2012, 10:38 pmNo test drive unit yet... all showroom said so...

This post has been edited by masz94: Feb 5 2012, 10:38 PM

Since there is so much hype about this new gen Optima K5, thought should pay Kia showroom a visit and have a close up view of this car.....

This afternoon went to a Kia showroom, as usual...no test drive unit..... great!

Had spent some time to do a walk around and sat inside K5 for a while, well, can't deny the fact that it is really a good looking, gorgeous sedan...., externally. The interior design is modern and 'canggih' looking. The specs are really impressive, no other new car with similar pricing able to match or even come close.

However, the biggest problem with this car is.... the interior quality.... a car that cost almost RM 144K should not have this kind of interior finishing. There are a few obvious deficits:
1. The panel parts gaping are not consistent at certain places,
2. The unit that available there, the HU eject button doesn't recoil after you press on it, in fact, the rest of the buttons on the facia also give a vague tactile feel.
3. The glove box door lid need to give a hard push before it can be closed, with a very harsh sound, and a gap.
( both 2 , 3 problem were attributed to repeated pressing by customer, told by the SA.... my god, means if you buy the car, don't press the buttons or open the glovebox too many times.... and the car probably only displayed there less than a month???)
4. Both rear doors open and shut with a hollow sound.

no chance to test the electronics and engine running condition.... so this is still a question mark.

So..... no offense to Kia K5 lovers /fans here.... personally I think the interior quality and finishing of T/N/H brand D-segment car still better. Yes, they may look mature..., boring..., even described as ugly.... only uncles and aunties... those who knows nothing about car will buy.... rite?). For me, buying a car is not only the exterior, but you are buying the whole package offered by the manufacturer, from the moment you step into the showroom, buying the car, receive the car, driving experience, services and maintenance, second hand value etc....

I sincerely hope that this is probably a lemon car, and the rest of the K5 would be better.

Just my 2 cents....

This post has been edited by landlily98: Feb 6 2012, 01:10 AM

I'm curious as why some of the people does not know about the DSG gearbox issues on some of the VW models here... and laud about it's greatness...

because certain people only see, hear and believe things they like/love to see, hear and believe....

and dun believe things they dun like/hate to see, hear and believe....

Its normal guys. Lets be real. There is no perfect car. Brand loyalty make us look the other way when theres issues unless its beyond unbearable.

German built quality have always been the benchmark. Japs r slowly losing it. My civic has been recalled twice. Reliable?