thats what u think..coz u got knowledge in cars....
i know many of my relatives...buy car, standard otomatik go T&H showroom lioaw...

but of course, korean , volks with their aggresive pricing, will be eating some of the jap market share...but i think another 3 years at least..hence toyota still got the time buffer to play with this card(dino tech camry)

Of course la, one is "Ori", the other one is "Copy" lol...

Yes but i guess ure paying for the brand and also the technology. But the K5 beats the Audi with its exterior design. The K5 is a head turner while the Audi will be just another common site on the road with not much to differentiate between the various models except for the DRL's.

The A4 will cost approx RM 2300 per month for 9 yrs while the Optima will cost RM 1500 for 7 yrs. Audi comes with 2 years unlimited mileage warranty and 15,000km (every 9 months with my driving distance) servicing intervals.

Isnt that what i said? I guess u dont really understand English eh? 

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Added on March 29, 2012, 7:39 am

Everybody putting in new engines while Toyota still gonna use old engine and old 4 speed auto transmission for the new Camry 2.0L and still charge us RM150K. Only 2.5L will get new dual VVTI engine and new 6 speed transmission.

it is just plain business move, i think...u see, toyota has developed the engines decade ago, and has spent millions in R&D and mould, die & jigs fabrication for the old camry manufacturing....if the sales or the requirement is still manageable, then why not continue to use it again...in this case, m'sia or any other country with die hard fans, it is actually a smart business move...selling at premium price, with new facelift or body over same engine and transmission..the profit margin will skyrocket..

if in other country, where competition is stronger, im sure toyota will fit in more advance engine, transmission and features or else they will lose out...i dont see toyota sales dropping significantly, even with new camry with old tech out....unless other brands in m'sia has strong presence to fight with them..

i mean, if u r toyota m'sia decision making person, decide this..... coming out with new camry new tech low profit margin abt same sales volume, versus new camry, old tech but HIGH profit margin and add some marketing to spice up sales even more

in the end, u get promoted for skewing m'sia consumer !!

it is just plain business move, i think...u see, toyota has developed the engines decade ago, and has spent millions in R&D and mould, die & jigs fabrication for the old camry manufacturing....if the sales or the requirement is still manageable, then why not continue to use it again...in this case, m'sia or any other country with die hard fans, it is actually a smart business move...selling at premium price, with new facelift or body over same engine and transmission..the profit margin will skyrocket..

if in other country, where competition is stronger, im sure toyota will fit in more advance engine, transmission and features or else they will lose out...i dont see toyota sales dropping significantly, even with new camry with old tech out....unless other brands in m'sia has strong presence to fight with them..

i mean, if u r toyota m'sia decision making person, decide this..... coming out with new camry new tech low profit margin abt same sales volume, versus new camry, old tech but HIGH profit margin and add some marketing to spice up sales even more

in the end, u get promoted for skewing m'sia consumer !!

Of course la, one is "Ori", the other one is "Copy" lol...

Finally got my white ride in this Monday! Drove it for 3 days, impressed me with the power(compare to camry 2.0), the tech and the design!

Done Sierra Glow yesterday and Mr Choong explained a lots about how to protect the car paint to me. Recommended shop to whoever want to give your ride a coating!

The intrusive sounds from tyre / bottom when drive on rough road (caused by tyre?) is really drive me crazy. Anyone getting better after change tyres? or it is sound proof problem ?

The surface of my Gear Knob has dropped off like other owner, complaint to my SA and hope to replace it soon.

Finally got my white ride in this Monday! Drove it for 3 days, impressed me with the power(compare to camry 2.0), the tech and the design!

Done Sierra Glow yesterday and Mr Choong explained a lots about how to protect the car paint to me. Recommended shop to whoever want to give your ride a coating!

The intrusive sounds from tyre / bottom when drive on rough road (caused by tyre?) is really drive me crazy. Anyone getting better after change tyres? or it is sound proof problem ?

The surface of my Gear Knob has dropped off like other owner, complaint to my SA and hope to replace it soon.

Finally got my white ride in this Monday! Drove it for 3 days, impressed me with the power(compare to camry 2.0), the tech and the design!

Done Sierra Glow yesterday and Mr Choong explained a lots about how to protect the car paint to me. Recommended shop to whoever want to give your ride a coating!

The intrusive sounds from tyre / bottom when drive on rough road (caused by tyre?) is really drive me crazy. Anyone getting better after change tyres? or it is sound proof problem ?

The surface of my Gear Knob has dropped off like other owner, complaint to my SA and hope to replace it soon.

Have u lowered your tyre pressure? Whats your number plate? WWN?

check ur tyre repssure, make sure at 240kPa, can reduce some noise

yeah..my gear knob oso dropped...the clip broken...put some glue, then okie lioaw

That's why la, try not to rub the knob too hard lol... Even though it's hard to resist since the car gives you orgasmic tendencies

Dear all Sifu,

I am one of K5 fans seriously thinking of marry a K5 because extremely dissapointed with 1.8 CKD INOKOM Elantra.

Is there a road side assist by Kia? Like what Hyundai malaysia have?

Yes, lowered to 240kPa, but still very noisy. Yes, WWN

225/45 R18 Michelin Pilot Sport 3 ~! Guarantee quiet~!

29.

damn the city driving FC sucks. RM 120 for 550km. i let my wife drive it to work.

The last time I manage to get 700km. it was 50%city 50% hiway.

Wow how your wife drive? 150KM diff, which 20%...

seems like most of the kia owner/kia wanna-be owner aged < 30yo... means majority has good salary pay...
question: issit good to dump more down payment on the car loan deposit?

there is no definite answer to that..

first, you have to know urself, wat are u going to do with the savings u have..if u plan to keep it in Fixed Deposit onli, then better put more downpayment into the car...if u have plan to spend it for business or any investment, then dont put too much into car deposit...

car loan interest is compounded...meaning, simple multiply..ie 2.5% pa x  9 years loan x  loan amt...example, loan 100k  at 9years tenure at 2.5% int cost u 22.5k in total interest

however, house loan is not compounded interest...house loan interest is calculated base on the exact amt still owed to the bank at that day (most banks do daily calculation)...say u owe bank 100k now, but next year it shud be lower like 90k...so by next year, u will be paying interest base on 90k..and so forth

but car loan NO...the total interest is charged regardless when and how much u still owe bank at certain point in your loan tenure...if im not wrong, a 2% car loan int, is equivalent to somewhere 3.8% effective interest rate....
so this will roughly give u idea on how to decide...

bro K5WHITE, care to explain how u estimate this amount?