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 2011 Kia Optima, when will launch in Malaysia?

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Faint
post Dec 16 2011, 09:47 AM

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2.4L will not available in Malaysia ?
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post Dec 16 2011, 09:47 AM

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2.4L will not available in Malaysia ?
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post Dec 16 2011, 10:00 AM

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QUOTE(Faint @ Dec 16 2011, 09:47 AM)
2.4L will not available in Malaysia ?
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Maybe they are scared can't sell, just like the Sonata 2.4; can hardly see any on the road.

Which brings to mind that the majority of Sonata owners are most probably value minded ppl. On top of that, at the current moment any car above 2-litres (in the used car market) is very hard to sell and are priced around the same as their 2.0 cousins. IOW, ppl are getting quite worried about FC.

Too fukken bad our petrol can't support GDI, otherwise we could write a petition and request for them to bring in the 2.0T GDI drool.gif
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post Dec 16 2011, 10:14 AM

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QUOTE(btfan @ Dec 15 2011, 12:57 AM)
A person paying for a RM50K-RM70K for a car may not be paying much attention at the depreciation rate but a person spending around RM140K will definitely think twice. Even a mere 9% depreciation a year will mean a lot that's why resale value is serious business in Malaysia.

I think pricing it at RM130K-RM140K ranges will be a tough sale even if it's a good car. Of course, there will always be a group who always buy during launches but looking at it a year or two later, will these sales be sustainable if it is priced too highly?
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erm........

QUOTE(geforce88 @ from some other thread)
we buy car to drive and enjoy, NOT buy car thinking when wanna sell it / how much can sell
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Added on December 16, 2011, 10:16 am
QUOTE(gregy @ Dec 16 2011, 04:16 AM)
I for one am hoping that this mentality continues for a bit longer, so that we can still enjoy Korean cars at gooding prices smile.gif Let the naysayers keep getting ripped off by the Japs lol...
Inspira come in nice nice also people give baseless bashing.

as long as Naza / Proton / Korean brands involved - a bunch of naysayers will be around as well.

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post Dec 20 2011, 01:21 AM

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QUOTE(gregy @ Dec 15 2011, 05:59 PM)
No need for the knee jerk reaction and start talking gibberish lol... I think you better stick to a Myvi. Best resale value. The new one Lagi Best resale value. Nuff said...
Knee-jerk reaction? People merely pointed out that too high a price will make it a tough sell in this market and then you just came barging in with your "analysis" on resale value for a Japanese car.

So I guess when you're losing in terms of rational arguments you resort to childish retorts? How old are you? 15? But I do guess it's my fault trying to reason with someone who is obviously mentally-challenged.


QUOTE(turbocharged @ Dec 15 2011, 11:27 AM)
actually, different segment has different mentality.

i think sub 70k and above 200k segment will not care about resale too much.
You may try browsing at other forums catering for premium marques and you see people are still bothered about resale values. A good case in point is Audi. Seen as a better car elsewhere but it's not selling much here. The reason should be obvious but somehow it's too difficult to understand for certain people here.
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post Dec 20 2011, 01:33 AM

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QUOTE(btfan @ Dec 20 2011, 01:21 AM)
Knee-jerk reaction? People merely pointed out that too high a price will make it a tough sell in this market and then you just came barging in with your "analysis" on resale value for a Japanese car.

So I guess when you're losing in terms of rational arguments you resort to childish retorts? How old are you? 15? But I do guess it's my fault trying to reason with someone who is obviously mentally-challenged.
You may try browsing at other forums catering for premium marques and you see people are still bothered about resale values. A good case in point is Audi. Seen as a better car elsewhere but it's not selling much here. The reason should be obvious but somehow it's too difficult to understand for certain people here.
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Should I let you continue putting more dung on your own face, Mr Swift Comeback?

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post Dec 20 2011, 04:54 PM

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Hi all, I just got a call from an SA from Taman Maluri showroom, and apparently Naza is only bringing in the 2.0 model priced at RM140k-145k (with confirmation from HQ). They are trying to price it at Camry 2.0 and Accord 2.0's value, how ludicrous!
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post Dec 20 2011, 05:07 PM

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Not a complete surpirse. Camry is priced at 145/155/175 for 2.0E,G and 2.4 respectively. Looking at the leaked specs from Paul Tan and assuming there is only one variant offered by Naza, then it should be compared with the high spec Camry 2.0G. The price gap is between 10-15k, so make your choice if you want a very sporty K5 which is 10-15k cheaper or a Camry 2.0G.

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post Dec 20 2011, 05:08 PM

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just look at the pricing of kia sportage.

naza is determined not to please everyone by cheapen their image and price.

a few years down the road, the impression of the public will change.

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post Dec 20 2011, 05:13 PM

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QUOTE(turbocharged @ Dec 20 2011, 05:08 PM)
just look at the pricing of kia sportage.

naza is determined not to please everyone by cheapen their image and price.

a few years down the road, the impression of the public will change.
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From a "lousy distributor that sells lousy car cheap, and fudges you up by slashing prices for old models that couldn't sell" to "greedy lousy distributor that sells great cars expensive, but fudges it up again with lousy service"? hmm.gif

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post Dec 20 2011, 05:15 PM

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they tried to hire some higher management ppl from toyota and perodua la. since june 2011. so, hopefully they will be better biggrin.gif

the lousy service is due to.....well you know, the industry is very competitve, and perodua giving 8 months bonus, so they can change job anytime, the turn over very high.

foreman tends to open their own store tongue.gif
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QUOTE(tunasandwich @ Dec 20 2011, 05:13 PM)
From a "lousy distributor that sells lousy car cheap, and fudges you up by slashing prices for old models that couldn't sell" to "greedy lousy distributor that sells great cars expensive, but fudges it up again with lousy service"?  hmm.gif
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LOL nicely said!
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post Dec 20 2011, 05:23 PM

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QUOTE(turbocharged @ Dec 20 2011, 05:15 PM)
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they tried to hire some higher management ppl from toyota and perodua la. since june 2011. so, hopefully they will be better biggrin.gif

the lousy service is due to.....well you know, the industry is very competitve, and perodua giving 8 months bonus, so they can change job anytime, the turn over very high.

foreman tends to open their own store tongue.gif
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don't quite understand how Perodua foreman turn over high has anything to do with KIA's lousy service rclxub.gif

make money d should invest in service centres loh, put la class abit, like Honda... not paying the higher management more... they make money bcoz of good cars from KIA, not management decisions from NAZA KIA....

Hyundai SDAC also another sohai company, make money d, fill pocket dulu.. customers can go fly kite or play kuku
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post Dec 20 2011, 05:45 PM

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oh, i mean, the turnover rate of good after sales ppl are very high.

so you will always see jokers around.

and if i'm not mistaken, naza is not paying good money, thus you see a lot of jokers there biggrin.gif

come on, who wanna work for naza? go work for honda la, perodua la. toyota la.
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post Dec 20 2011, 05:55 PM

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QUOTE(turbocharged @ Dec 20 2011, 05:45 PM)
oh, i mean, the turnover rate of good after sales ppl are very high.

so you will always see jokers around.

and if i'm not mistaken, naza is not paying good money, thus you see a lot of jokers there biggrin.gif

come on, who wanna work for naza? go work for honda la, perodua la. toyota la.
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yalo... and not just workers... ur inventory also... manage properly la dumfaggots....
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post Dec 20 2011, 07:07 PM

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I would put my money on this car solely for the Infinity sound system already
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post Dec 20 2011, 07:08 PM

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145k, it will fail. Only those who wants to be diff, and think that this is a better car will buy.
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post Dec 20 2011, 07:09 PM

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i think they trying to make it as a car.

at rm125k, hey i cannot afford an camry/accord, so i buy this car.

at rm145k, hey, its same price as camry/accord, but i have better taste, so i buy this car.
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post Dec 20 2011, 08:02 PM

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QUOTE(rcracer @ Dec 20 2011, 07:07 PM)
I would put my money on this car solely for the Infinity sound system already
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unfair unfair...k5 give infinity speaker while sportage lauya speaker
eventhough got 6 inside...SQ like 60k vehicle...lolz

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