That's because you're receiving analogue channels from Gunung Ulu Kali transmitter, located at Genting Highlands, where its coverage was primarily meant for Pahang state. But bcuz Genting Highlands is a high mountain place, the coverage can actually cover almost entire Selangor and other nearby areas. Meanwhile the signal repeater/relay transmitters, namely Bukit Sungai Besi and KL tower transmitter is meant to cover blindspot or fringe areas within Klang Valley, has been switched off this early morning.

So the ASO date for Gunung Ulu Kali's transmitter will be the same as Northern and East Coast region, 14 Oct 2019.



Well you can get the one that Media Prima loves to promote on CJ Wow Shop, which is the Green Packet brand, for RM109.
https://www.cjwowshop.com.my/green-packet-d...der-104707.html
Yep, it is certified by MCMC and SIRIM.

This post has been edited by joshhd: Oct 1 2019, 09:15 PM

Genting aka Bantang Kali reaches up to Pangkor and even Sumatra.
The Indonesia coverage is a real nuisance for frequency planning

Why Ulu Kali's coverage able to reach until Indonesia's Sumatera is a nuisance anyway?
Are they interfering Malaysia's stations by any chance?

This post has been edited by joshhd: Oct 1 2019, 11:33 PM

On PJ, only TV1 and TV2 show that info

Actually entire West Coast of Malaysia and Sumatra Island is only separated by Straits of Malacca. There is no mountains to block here, so Malaysian radio signals can easily reach some parts of Sumatra. In fact, based on reports in Indonesia, Malaysian TV and radio stations are popular within areas that can receive Malaysian TV. (There is no Indonesian TV via TV antenna in some areas, and Malaysian TV are often the only way to receive any TV channels in these areas. However they will now have to switch to DTT now in order to get Malaysian TV.) Malaysian Radio often have better content than local Indonesian radio too. There are reports where the Indonesian TVRI signal from Medan (at that time still on VHF Band, now on UHF band) interferes the VHF signal transmitted from Gunung Keldang on Lumut area, until a relay had to be installed by RTM for viewers in these areas to improve signal quality in these areas.

SKMM and it's predecessors has doing so badly in terms of frequency planning by just setting 50km from border area within Singapore, Thailand and also Brunei. Also they do not take the advantage of vertical polarization to maximize coverage and minimise interference.

Oh wow. Didn't expect that we got a huge audience from neighbouring country. But hey, MYTV DTH coverage is not just cover Malaysia but also entire Indonesia. They can just *ehem* some MYTV DTH boxes into the country and enjoy it just like ordinary Malaysians do, for free. Broadcasters would be happy as this contributes to the viewership, which convinces the advertisers to book an ad slot on FTA stations. Yea that's the good side. The bad side would be the copyright issues.

How about now? Previously MCMC issued a statement that they want to re-plan FM radio frequencies. Sounds like they want to make things right this time, and listeners may have to memorise new FM frequencies in the future? Will see.


Back to TV broadcast. Frequency planning of 50km away from neighbouring country border areas.... Hmm, not far enough? Assuming now, ASO has completed in entire Malaysia, all analogue TV signals went off air, no more showing ASO message like now, so what's next? Restack DTT frequencies into within 470-690MHz range so that 700MHz can be use for 4G/5G. Would MYTV uses lower UHF frequencies such as around 470-610MHz range, so that perhaps the DTT coverage can travel slightly further distance and have better indoor reception for viewers, especially the fact that they use 256QAM, and hopefully this would solve some DTT reception issues faced by some viewers now, like can receive Mux 1 (e.g. Media Prima channels) but can't receive Mux 2 (RTM). Do you think my presumption may be true?

About between JB and Singapore, 50km from bordering area, hmm how? Could you explain a bit...
As for Brunei, I know they use only 1 mux, and it is in Vertical polarisation. The gov advises Brunei people to adjust its outdoor UHF antenna to vertical position to receive Brunei channels.
But, seriously they use only 1 mux. So how is that gonna affect Malaysia's DTT?

Thailand... Any TV reception issues occurring between the Malaysia and Thailand borders?

Yeah, lots of curiosity.. Hope you can share some info to us all. Thanks.

Actually, not quite. Ulu Kali is meant for both Western Pahang and Selangor, which is why you see most non-RTM national stations broadcasting for Klang Valley state their frequencies for it as those beaming from there - e.g. Lite FM 105.7. Menara KL is used to penetrate high density high rise areas within KL. Even when Metrovision started, they had only one transmitter, the one at Gunung Ulu Kali. I remember in uni near Ipoh we would crowd at the dorm's TV room to watch a grainy Metrovision. haha. If not mistaken Ulu Kali is the highest location for TV radio transmitter in Malaysia, and being a DXer I have traced its signals to as far as Taiping, Lojing, Segamat and Kuantan.

This post has been edited by 9M-MAS: Oct 2 2019, 07:16 AM

Most of the VHF FM is only broadcast from Genting.
This is a problem because Ampang and Melawati area is blocked by nearby hills

Menara KL was too expensive rental and is now blocked by surrounding towers.

The 50km international limit is a standard value used by the ITU, sensible in Europe but not here with so many sites on high mountains.
International co-channel interference should be much reduced with DTTV, analog needs about 60dB stronger to make ghosts vanish while only about 20dB is enough for clean digital signal

i saw at lazada someone selling official (ie sirim & mcmc certified) for 75 bucks, or the unofficial one (own risk) for less than 60.
UHF antenna should work but may be need to adjust the direction accordingly if the signal can be reached.

This post has been edited by ajay67: Oct 2 2019, 11:50 AM

Well said. In Europe the main TV masts are usually in the 200-300m range. Even the highest TV mast in the UK is around 750m (mast and hill combined). They also exploits vertical polarization (which isn't use here) to maximize coverage and their planning usually also take account of neighbouring countries transmission, although with a 50km international limit. However, due to dense population within Europe, most countries will only have 3-4 universal coverage Analogue channels before the usage of DTT. While almost all the main masts are located in hills in the entire west coast Malaysia, with many of them transmits 6 to 7 analogue channels, causing huge interference in many areas. This is worsen by much poor planning of Indonesian analog TV transmission, with major towns having 10-20 TV channels while in some areas like Dumai, Indonesia, satellite dish is required for local TV reception due to broadcasters aren't interested in these areas. As Dumai is within reach of Malaysian TV mast and no local channels are available, hence the popularity of Malaysian TV channels due to much easier setup via UHF antenna, and also similar culture and language. These do not take account of neighbouring countries transmission and no vertical polarization is used. Agreed with digital transmission, the interference will be greatly reduced due to SFN+lesser channels will be used.

This post has been edited by shaun_kok: Oct 2 2019, 12:30 PM

Got this SMS...

Thanks for the info guys... Really appreciate it.
If KL tower is expensive to rent, and MYTV still uses it for DTT repeater for better indoor coverage to KL viewers, I wonder even if SFN is used, wouldn't it cause some interference if the particular viewer's location are able to receive adequate DTT signals from Gn Ulu Kali and Bkt Sg Besi, even without KL tower?

50km... Hmm then what do you think is the recommended distance between borders? 80-100km?
Any idea why vertical polarisation isn't used for DTT in Malaysia, for now?

How easy it is for Sumatera viewers to receive Malaysia DTT now? I wonder if outdoor 14-E antenna is enough, or 37-E is better?

I'm sure as Malaysia goes ASO, this forces Indonesia to at least start switching off its analogue transmitters near to Malaysia and Singapore, this would make DTT frequency restacking process possible and coordinate with neighbouring countries.

So far is there any Indonesian analogue channels being switched off in Batam? Anyone know?

This post has been edited by joshhd: Oct 2 2019, 06:20 PM

where to get the decoder and UHF antenna?

those big electronics chain store like senheng,senQ, harvey, courts got?

easiest is to get from lazada. antenna is actually compatible with existing UHF antenna for analog TV (if you already have them)

https://www.thestar.com.my/tech/tech-news/2...s-to-end-oct-31

This is one for less than RM100...MCMC & SIRIM certified

https://www.lazada.com.my/products/sirim-mc...s972720469.html

I am able to received Radio Republik Indonesia (RRI) transmitted in Dumai at 90.6Mhz and local Medan radio at 92.4Mhz. Even suprising able to receive Telkomsel which is Indonesia Telco. All location in Genting Highlands.

Woah really? How's the reception like? Is it clear?
Which part of Genting Highlands? Genting car park (open air one), in your hotel room or what?

thanks for all the suggestions!

Yes. The reception seems to be moderate to poor for RRI Dumai and local Medan radio respectively. You should try it.

Location coordinate;

3.424729,101.789960 (just beside the main road)