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post Sep 19 2011, 04:47 PM

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isn't \ / better for handling?? tis is facing front
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QUOTE(lyordson @ Sep 19 2011, 04:42 PM)
i have the same problem also after accodent. it shud be chassis bengkok, twist and turns on the road will affect to since saga iswara is lembik.. wait for the otai to reply.

vortex cyclone? yeah. its big bang for the buck with increased 5% mentally horsepower.  thumbup.gif

omg that was the worst design than surbo. lol
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But my car has been sent to Puspakom for inspection. If Chassis bengkok, it should not pass inspection kan? Waiting for other sifu to reply. blush.gif

5% mentally horsepower? biggrin.gif How about fuel saving? Does it help to save fuel? blush.gif
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post Sep 19 2011, 04:53 PM

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QUOTE(shahiryusoff @ Sep 19 2011, 04:48 PM)
But my car has been sent to Puspakom for inspection. If Chassis bengkok, it should not pass inspection kan? Waiting for other sifu to reply.  blush.gif

5% mentally horsepower?  biggrin.gif  How about fuel saving? Does it help to save fuel? blush.gif
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oh yeah. increased fc 10% with that kind of trash design blocking most of the air going in. shakehead.gif
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post Sep 19 2011, 05:11 PM

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Don't WASTE your money. These stuffs have been proven over and over again to be totally ineffective. As others say, you might get mental effect, placebo effect. smile.gif one very simple reasoning you can use for all these snake oil devices, if they are so good and REALLY work, why won't car manufacturers include them as standard accessories? can you imagine how much more sales if they can advertise a car getting 5l/100km instead of a competitor's non-cyclone equipped car at 6-7l/100km? smile.gif

don' trust me on this, trust popular mechanics! tongue.gif read up and don't fall for marketing schemes to take your hard earned money away!
http://www.popularmechanics.com/cars/alter...mileage/1802932

p/s: speaking of fuel saver, anyone remember Dr. Halim Ali and his hydrofuel which was in the news 3 years ago? I wonder what happened... if it works and really saves fuel, it should be in the world market by now!!! esp. in the US smile.gif

http://paultan.org/2008/07/22/hydrofuel-sy...-ali-interview/


QUOTE(shahiryusoff @ Sep 19 2011, 03:32 PM)
And, has anyone tried this thing before? Any positive result? Save fuel? More power?

http://www.mudah.my/Vortex+Cyclone+Fuel+Sa...NGV-3421602.htm

I think it is quite cheap but don't know whether has effect or not.  icon_rolleyes.gif
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This post has been edited by poolcarpet: Sep 19 2011, 05:16 PM
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post Sep 19 2011, 06:39 PM

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better get my wave tech thing...dyno proven tongue.gif
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post Sep 19 2011, 10:08 PM

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QUOTE(shahiryusoff @ Sep 19 2011, 03:32 PM)
Guys, want to ask regarding my car as the picture below.
[attachmentid=2442810] (Driver Side)
[attachmentid=2442811] (Passenger Side)
Does anyone/sifu know why is the passenger side tyre is like more offset or "terkeluar" ? You can really see that the passenger side tyre is more coming out. It is very obvious.  This is the front passenger side tyre. Rear both tyres are okay.

I think that the driver side tyre is okay but there's like some problem with the passenger side tyre. Anyone has had this problem or know why is it like this? Is it the CHASSIS bengkok ? The salesman who sold this car told me that this car has never been in an accident before so I guess it's not the chassis.

icon_question.gif HELP please.  blush.gif
And, has anyone tried this thing before? Any positive result? Save fuel? More power?

http://www.mudah.my/Vortex+Cyclone+Fuel+Sa...NGV-3421602.htm

I think it is quite cheap but don't know whether has effect or not.  icon_rolleyes.gif
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Your camber and alignment is OK?

Your car can drive straight without holding the steering wheel?


QUOTE(Chan320 @ Sep 19 2011, 04:47 PM)
isn't \ / better for handling?? tis is facing front
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That's positive camber doh.gif

/ \ is the best...go see V8 Supercars mia camber pictures...offset negative 4 liddat...

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QUOTE(shahiryusoff @ Sep 19 2011, 03:32 PM)
Guys, want to ask regarding my car as the picture below.
[attachmentid=2442810] (Driver Side)
[attachmentid=2442811] (Passenger Side)
Does anyone/sifu know why is the passenger side tyre is like more offset or "terkeluar" ? You can really see that the passenger side tyre is more coming out. It is very obvious.  This is the front passenger side tyre. Rear both tyres are okay.

I think that the driver side tyre is okay but there's like some problem with the passenger side tyre. Anyone has had this problem or know why is it like this? Is it the CHASSIS bengkok ? The salesman who sold this car told me that this car has never been in an accident before so I guess it's not the chassis.
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it's the tie rod end. one side too out while the other side too in. when go alignment shop ask them to adjust both side so it will be center again.
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post Sep 19 2011, 10:57 PM

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QUOTE(Notoriez @ Sep 19 2011, 10:08 PM)

/ \ is the best...go see V8 Supercars mia camber pictures...offset negative 4 liddat...
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errr...i meant from top view haha....cuz tat time i set it | | cannot go straight but when set \ / no need hold also can go straight
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QUOTE(Notoriez @ Sep 19 2011, 10:08 PM)
Your camber and alignment is OK?

Your car can drive straight without holding the steering wheel?
That's positive camber doh.gif

/ \ is the best...go see V8 Supercars mia camber pictures...offset negative 4 liddat...
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I just did my balancing and alignment 2months ago because I change 2front tires.
Yes I can drive straight without holding the steering wheel. BUT, when my car is straight, my steering wheel is not. I forgot to take picture la about this. But I think you understand what I mean.

When my car is going straight, the steering is a bit to the anti-clockwise. If I hold the steering straight, then my car will not go straight. It will steer to the right. So to be able to go straight I need to hold the steering a bit anti-clockwise. I told my formen to adjust when I did my alignment, and they did. But still like "lari" a bit like I mention above. Tyre and steering still not 100% same even after they adjust. Before I told my formen to adjust, I had to hold the steering about 25% (quite a lot until my friends laughed) anti-clockwise then only the car will go straight. rclxub.gif

What could be this problem? Is it related to the problem with the picture earlier?
My problem is like this picture.
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QUOTE(xxboxx @ Sep 19 2011, 10:48 PM)
it's the tie rod end. one side too out while the other side too in. when go alignment shop ask them to adjust both side so it will be center again.
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Okay. Thanks. blush.gif If this is the problem than I will get my formen to fix it.

Do you know what would be the problem as I mention to Notoriez above regarding tire and steering that does not steers the same? icon_question.gif

Thank you. blush.gif

Edited: Add picture.

This post has been edited by shahiryusoff: Sep 19 2011, 11:17 PM
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you mean after alignment the steering straight go straight but after a while steering straight but go right? if so means got other thing problem, maybe steering rack?
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QUOTE(xxboxx @ Sep 19 2011, 11:40 PM)
you mean after alignment the steering straight go straight but after a while steering straight but go right? if so means got other thing problem, maybe steering rack?
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No no. Before alignment, I had to hold the steering more anti-clockwise than only car steers straight.

After alignment, I need to hold the steering slightly anti-clockwise then only the car steers straight.

I think the formen did not adjust properly maybe. icon_rolleyes.gif
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post Sep 20 2011, 01:36 AM

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QUOTE(shahiryusoff @ Sep 19 2011, 11:53 PM)
No no. Before alignment, I had to hold the steering more anti-clockwise than only car steers straight.

After alignment, I need to hold the steering slightly anti-clockwise then only the car steers straight.

I think the formen did not adjust properly maybe.  icon_rolleyes.gif
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means that ur alignment still off by a few degree on one side i guess
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If use the Waja 16' rims for LMST, what's the maximum tyre width that can be used? Anyone tried doing this before?
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post Sep 20 2011, 10:04 AM

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QUOTE(lyordson @ Sep 19 2011, 02:11 PM)
now im little confused here. whats the diff?
http://www.mudah.my/EXEDY+Semi+Racing+Clutch-9029657.htm
http://www.mudah.my/Exedy+clutch+4g13+4g15...ra-10433637.htm
semi racing and performance thats all?
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stock clutch: local make brand, (exedy got local n immitation here)

semi racing c class: japan stock brand(exedy, asco, aisin)(asco n aisin is toyota sub company, best ebestos) or french brand(veleo)

Semi racing b class: addition order lining only aplies to modification stoct....(which they cal orgenic clutch.)

semi racing a class: copper carbon( known as genic matel carbon) in less mixture and thick carbon

full racing clutch: full carbon mixture and is thinner to get high temp griping design


Trinity full racing clutch:thick full carbon mixture for more lasting usage(over 700)



QUOTE(poolcarpet @ Sep 19 2011, 05:11 PM)
Don't WASTE your money. These stuffs have been proven over and over again to be totally ineffective. As others say, you might get mental effect, placebo effect. smile.gif one very simple reasoning you can use for all these snake oil devices, if they are so good and REALLY work, why won't car manufacturers include them as standard accessories? can you imagine how much more sales if they can advertise a car getting 5l/100km instead of a competitor's non-cyclone equipped car at 6-7l/100km? smile.gif

don' trust me on this, trust popular mechanics! tongue.gif read up and don't fall for marketing schemes to take your hard earned money away!
http://www.popularmechanics.com/cars/alter...mileage/1802932

p/s: speaking of fuel saver, anyone remember Dr. Halim Ali and his hydrofuel which was in the news 3 years ago? I wonder what happened... if it works and really saves fuel, it should be in the world market by now!!! esp. in the US smile.gif

http://paultan.org/2008/07/22/hydrofuel-sy...-ali-interview/
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+1 nod.gif

QUOTE(Codyx @ Sep 19 2011, 06:39 PM)
better get my wave tech thing...dyno proven tongue.gif
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more info la.. dun write 1 line niaaa

QUOTE(DSV4600 @ Sep 20 2011, 09:02 AM)
If use the Waja 16' rims for LMST, what's the maximum tyre width that can be used? Anyone tried doing this before?
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dunno bro. but, u really need dat big rim??
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QUOTE(low yat 82 @ Sep 20 2011, 10:04 AM)
source from br clutch
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more info la.. dun write 1 line niaaa
dunno bro. but, u really need dat big rim??
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Want bigger rim for bling bling mah... Quite cheap woh, brand new for only RM500.
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Hi guys, i too am a proud saga user

My car is the Orange 2007 Saga (RM27k).

I have a question, why does my saga sucks all the outside car smoke when i switch on the air con??

If this continues i might have lung problems haha.

Is this problem normal?? Anyone encountered this problem?? If so how did you fix it?? smile.gif
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any idea how much to fix the fuel gauge? just after fixing my boot absorber, fuel gauge rosak. ish. it's like moving up and down now. is there a tension spring in there? maybe that broke.
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QUOTE(Kel89 @ Sep 20 2011, 07:06 PM)
Hi guys, i too am a proud saga user

My car is the Orange 2007 Saga (RM27k).

I have a question, why does my saga sucks all the outside car smoke when i switch on the air con??

If this continues i might have lung problems haha.

Is this problem normal?? Anyone encountered this problem?? If so how did you fix it??  smile.gif
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Emm, what i actually doing is i direct BLOCK the papan that allow outside air come in. Mean, now if i switch to allow outside air come in function, it doesnt work anymore. But this way was really solve the problem. U can open the blower at passenger side under dashboard than u should find the place that allow outside air come in..try to close the place with cable tie or gum or tape.
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QUOTE(fool1988 @ Sep 20 2011, 08:00 PM)
Emm, what i actually doing is i direct BLOCK the papan that allow outside air come in. Mean, now if i switch to allow outside air come in function, it doesnt work anymore. But this way was really solve the problem. U can open the blower at passenger side under dashboard than u should find the place that allow outside air come in..try to close the place with cable tie or gum or tape.
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The papan that allow outside air? hard to imagine which? haha. What did u use to block it?Do you have to open the hud to do that??

Btw where do u get the cable tie? smile.gif
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any good suggestion on what to use to seal the air cond foot outlet?


Added on September 20, 2011, 9:35 pm
QUOTE(shahiryusoff @ Sep 19 2011, 11:08 PM)
I just did my balancing and alignment 2months ago because I change 2front tires.
Yes I can drive straight without holding the steering wheel. BUT, when my car is straight, my steering wheel is not. I forgot to take picture la about this. But I think you understand what I mean.

When my car is going straight, the steering is a bit to the anti-clockwise. If I hold the steering straight, then my car will not go straight. It will steer to the right. So to be able to go straight I need to hold the steering a bit anti-clockwise. I told my formen to adjust when I did my alignment, and they did. But still like "lari" a bit like I mention above. Tyre and steering still not 100% same even after they adjust. Before I told my formen to adjust, I had to hold the steering about 25% (quite a lot until my friends laughed) anti-clockwise then only the car will go straight.  rclxub.gif

What could be this problem? Is it related to the problem with the picture earlier?
My problem is like this picture.
Attached Image
Okay. Thanks.  blush.gif  If this is the problem than I will get my formen to fix it.

Do you know what would be the problem as I mention to Notoriez above regarding tire and steering that does not steers the same?  icon_question.gif

Thank you. blush.gif

Edited: Add picture.
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usually when i go for alignment, the foreman will adjust the steering wheel also. you just need to open the screw on the bottom of your steering wheel, disconnect the horn and open the nut in the middle with your spanner for the tire's nut. then you can adjust your steering wheel as much as you like. but you will need a straight and quiet road cuz you cant maneuver too much to get the perfect lining.

This post has been edited by wsmw: Sep 20 2011, 09:35 PM

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