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 v7.0 The OFFICIAL 3G/5G Honda City 2011 thread, Theres more to the city than meets the i

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shunryu
post Jul 20 2011, 02:38 PM

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QUOTE(LittleBear @ Jul 20 2011, 02:04 PM)
How come? We have wider NHC chassis?
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That's right
Malaysian spec NHC is only slightly wider (20mm) and ride height lower compared to other countries
No particular reason but it's a good news nonetheless smile.gif

I've sat in Ford Fiesta with 1722mm width before, although it's nowhere as spacious as the NHC's 1715mm
The only thing i could think of, is due to the differences in interior compartment design hmm.gif

This post has been edited by shunryu: Jul 20 2011, 02:43 PM
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post Jul 20 2011, 03:23 PM

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QUOTE(abubin @ Jul 20 2011, 12:27 PM)
no need to read all just go through the manual and select things that is important to know. Skip basic things that you already know. I did flip through the manual once. Sometimes there are things there you might not know existed. It's good to go through manuals whenever you buy something new.
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yea man
i suppose that thing is something worth to read about
the firsts (and the only) thing i read about was the minimum octane thing, operating the shifters, and basically thats it
my old man set my audio setting. believe me if i were to set a new frequency for a new radio or something, i dont know tongue.gif
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post Jul 20 2011, 08:45 PM

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QUOTE(shunryu @ Jul 20 2011, 08:50 AM)
Speedoru
I think stick with 3M tape would be the most sensible solution because you could take it out / install other design of spoilers when you see fit  smile.gif
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Yea, 3M tape definitely the solution for the time being but it's floated.
Afraid that it might fall off someday, somewhere.
Falling off is one thing but if flew off in Highways will caused serious accident.
It seems that i'm unable to make it stick properly. I've tried to re-sticking(take out n applied new tapes) a few times but after sometime it floats again n gaps can be see here and there. Especially, the "H" Logo portion where it's hardly touching to the boot surface.
That's why i wanna know is there any alternative securing method beside drilling xtra holes and DS Tape or my sticking method is wrong.

Is anybody facing this problem?
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post Jul 20 2011, 10:02 PM

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QUOTE(Speedoru @ Jul 20 2011, 08:45 PM)
Yea, 3M tape definitely the solution for the time being but it's floated.
Afraid that it might fall off someday, somewhere.
Falling off is one thing but if flew off in Highways will caused serious accident.
It seems that i'm unable to make it stick properly. I've tried to re-sticking(take out n applied new tapes) a few times but after sometime it floats again n gaps can be see here and there. Especially, the "H" Logo portion where it's hardly touching to the boot surface.
That's why i wanna know is there any alternative securing method beside drilling xtra holes and DS Tape or my sticking method is wrong.

Is anybody facing this problem?
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hmmm if its just double sided tape, what if one day u return to ur car and find it missing ar?
shunryu
post Jul 21 2011, 08:20 AM

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QUOTE(Speedoru @ Jul 20 2011, 08:45 PM)
Yea, 3M tape definitely the solution for the time being but it's floated.
Afraid that it might fall off someday, somewhere.
Falling off is one thing but if flew off in Highways will caused serious accident.
It seems that i'm unable to make it stick properly. I've tried to re-sticking(take out n applied new tapes) a few times but after sometime it floats again n gaps can be see here and there. Especially, the "H" Logo portion where it's hardly touching to the boot surface.
That's why i wanna know is there any alternative securing method beside drilling xtra holes and DS Tape or my sticking method is wrong.

Is anybody facing this problem?
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Have you tried using the 3M tape along with thinner?
Apply some thinner so it further help the adhesive of the tape to come in contact with the boot..
There is a reason why it must be 3M tape due to the fact that it has strong adhesive
I once had to use knife to ply open just because i stick wrongly shakehead.gif
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post Jul 21 2011, 08:33 AM

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QUOTE(shunryu @ Jul 21 2011, 08:20 AM)
Have you tried using the 3M tape along with thinner?
Apply some thinner so it further help the adhesive of the tape to come in contact with the boot..
There is a reason why it must be 3M tape due to the fact that it has strong adhesive
I once had to use knife to ply open just because i stick wrongly  shakehead.gif
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wont thinner hurt the paint?
shunryu
post Jul 21 2011, 09:08 AM

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Use a bit don't use too much
And it's covered by the spoiler smile.gif
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post Jul 21 2011, 10:33 AM

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i used Methanol to cleaned it before sticking.
Still the same.
Yes, the adhesive of 3M tape is damn strong. Even though it's floated at some portion but it's still damn hard to removed.
I noticed that behind the 'H' badge hv 2 guide holes (for fixing the badge), i wonder if it's possible to fasten with rivets on the spoiler to the boot + DST?
In that case, we dun hv to drill xtra holes to our car and much secure.
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post Jul 21 2011, 10:41 AM

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hi morning everybody smile.gif
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post Jul 21 2011, 10:45 AM

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my 2 cents:-
1) good DS tape... 3M
2) clean contact surface. clean with fast drying type alcohol, can be IPA, thinner or whatever, fast clean and not too much to avoid hurting paint. let it dry before stick.
3) warm it up before stick. use hair dryer or hot air to warm the glue side of DS tape. warm glue will have better contact and adhere strength.
4) make sure do it right in first attempt!
good luck!
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post Jul 21 2011, 12:05 PM

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The stock absorber is kinda weak. Anyone has changed their stock absorber to something like TiTan before? Any difference in terms of handling and ride?
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post Jul 22 2011, 12:02 PM

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QUOTE(kons @ Jul 21 2011, 12:05 PM)
The stock absorber is kinda weak. Anyone has changed their stock absorber to something like TiTan before? Any difference in terms of handling and ride?
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May change to G|A|B 's fully adjustable suspension. Over 2k for all 4 suspension.
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QUOTE(calvin_gsc @ Jul 22 2011, 12:02 PM)
May change to G|A|B 's fully adjustable suspension. Over 2k for all 4 suspension.
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Nice. Didn't know GAB is that expensive.
I thought Titan is already very expensive.
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post Jul 22 2011, 09:45 PM

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QUOTE(calvin_gsc @ Jul 22 2011, 12:02 PM)
May change to G|A|B 's fully adjustable suspension. Over 2k for all 4 suspension.
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got pic?
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post Jul 23 2011, 12:27 AM

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I know this sound weirds and dumb. But stock to stock. Myvi compared to City. City wins in terms of power hand down right? 1.3cc vs. 1.5cc

Cause I was flooring the accelerator at 80kph and accelerate all the way to 160kph. With a Myvi following closely behind and overtook me quite easily.

That's look quite impossible. But it would be a complete different story if the Myvi is modded right?

No exhaust mod. Dunno about the engine. Opinion? Stock to stock, no chance? So must be modded?
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post Jul 23 2011, 01:42 AM

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That's weird. I have a Myvi and a City at home. When i start flooring the Myvi from 80kph, it's really slow and all the way to 160kph? That's gonna take some time. There's no exhaust mod for the Myvi and could easily overtook u? Hmm , so weird. There could be turbo installed on the myvi. Did u hear any difference on the engine sound when the myvi overtook u?
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post Jul 23 2011, 01:54 AM

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nope. my i-vtec was opening all the way. went up all the RPM range to 5800, peak torque. couldn't listen to anything. one thing i can confirm is no exhaust mod. usually those aftermarket are more bassy and can cover my revving sound. no BOV. turbo. i'm not sure.

i'm pretty sure i floored it. the fastest 80-160kph i ever accelerated. LOL!

well, i guess stock to stock. city cannot lose to myvi. unless the myvi is manual. then the initial part of the acceleration, myvi have the advantage.

but one thing i don't understand is how the myvi can overtake so easily over 160kph. hmm.gif
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post Jul 23 2011, 02:51 AM

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QUOTE(richardt3o @ Jul 23 2011, 12:27 AM)
I know this sound weirds and dumb. But stock to stock. Myvi compared to City. City wins in terms of power hand down right? 1.3cc vs. 1.5cc

Cause I was flooring the accelerator at 80kph and accelerate all the way to 160kph. With a Myvi following closely behind and overtook me quite easily.

That's look quite impossible. But it would be a complete different story if the Myvi is modded right?

No exhaust mod. Dunno about the engine. Opinion? Stock to stock, no chance? So must be modded?
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QUOTE(choon hon @ Jul 23 2011, 01:42 AM)
That's weird. I have a Myvi and a City at home. When i start flooring the Myvi from 80kph, it's really slow and all the way to 160kph? That's gonna take some time. There's no exhaust mod for the Myvi and could easily overtook u? Hmm , so weird. There could be turbo installed on the myvi. Did u hear any difference on the engine sound when the myvi overtook u?
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err power to weight ratio?

i was doing 120-140 on fed hw trying to play cat and mouse with this kelisa and he happily swerve and zoom past and just went off like that ...
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post Jul 23 2011, 06:42 AM

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guys,

what is your average km per liter of petrol showing on the meeting? mine is just 12-13 km/l tho I hardly rev more than 4k rpm .. sad.gif ..

full tank of RM65 can gives me about 450-480km only .. how about yours?

btw, mine is new honda city year 2011 .. ;( ..
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post Jul 23 2011, 10:20 AM

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QUOTE(earl-ku @ Jul 23 2011, 02:51 AM)
err power to weight ratio?

i was doing 120-140 on fed hw trying to play cat and mouse with this kelisa and he happily swerve and zoom past and just went off like that ...
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Correct. Weight is the biggest factor in car performance.
Which is also the reason why most racing car have most of its weight shaved off.
But we're talking about stock cars here..

For those who wondering why Myvi could have better pickup/acceleration and could be faster than us was due to :
1) Manual transmission - a manual myvi has lower transmission loss and have more of its engine power transfer to the wheels
2) Weight - weight of a manual myvi is only 950KG, our NHC 1160KG (That's whole 210KG difference! shakehead.gif )

Both of this is limitation to our NHC, give NHC a manual transmission and 100KG off it would be a MUCH MORE fun car to drive... Although NHC has power, but the weight is restricting it from performing.
However, if the Myvi is auto, we can rape it anytime brows.gif

Nevertheless, why do we care if Kelisa / Myvi passes us? whistling.gif

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