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 v7.0 The OFFICIAL 3G/5G Honda City 2011 thread, Theres more to the city than meets the i

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aarex
post Jul 16 2011, 11:30 PM

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QUOTE(calvin_gsc @ Jul 16 2011, 11:21 PM)
For me it feels that way. I think suspension, rims and tyres also play a difference. I dont think we running same configuration.
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Ya, U r right too. biggrin.gif

Btw, how much u installed the STP hood solution?

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calvin_gsc
post Jul 17 2011, 11:01 AM

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QUOTE(aarex @ Jul 16 2011, 11:30 PM)
Ya, U r right too.  biggrin.gif

Btw, how much u installed the STP hood solution?
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DIY the Cold air intake pipe. Since I removed the original cold air intake panel on the hood.

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post Jul 18 2011, 08:40 AM

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QUOTE(DaBestOne @ Jul 16 2011, 03:02 PM)
think it will automatically goes back to 1 when u comes to a dead stop rite?
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That is another nice feature such that when you come to a traffic stop you won't have to downshift yourself to gear 1
but it is still possible to downshift and engage 'engine breaking' to further help braking the car into a complete stop.

QUOTE(kons @ Jul 16 2011, 09:46 PM)
Hmm. Is there such protection?
I tried to shift to 1st gear when I'm still running at around 30km/h to 40km/h, it still downshift successfully.
The car just jerk to almost a halt and the car behind almost knocked into my car because there is no brake light.
But I'm tried upshift to 4th gear when I'm running at 40km/h, it will not allow though.


Yes, haven't you read your manual?
it CAN be downshift as long as the engine rpm doesn't reach the redline, so in your case you downshifted around 30km/h to 40km/h which should be around 6k+ rpm in 1st gear which is still in safe zone.. But, if you downshift and the ecu realised that particular downshift will touch the redline, it wouldn't let you smile.gif

The jerk you experienced is called 'engine braking', which refers to the braking effect caused by throttle position-induced vacuum in petrol engines. While some of the braking force is due to friction in the drive train, this is negligible compared to the effect from vacuum. When the throttle is lifted/closed, the air flow to the intake manifold is greatly restricted. The work the engine has to do against this partial-vacuum is what provides the braking effect.

Engine braking passively reduces wear on brakes and helps a driver maintain control of the vehicle. Active use of engine braking (shifting into a lower gear) is advantageous when it is necessary to control speed while driving down very steep and long slopes. It should be applied before regular disk or drum brakes have been used, leaving the brakes available to make emergency stops. The desired speed is maintained by using engine braking to counteract the gravitational acceleration. It also helps the vehicle to slow down faster when used along with brakes.
For more information, head to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Engine_braking icon_idea.gif

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thumbup.gif does engine braking causes you to have higher fc?
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post Jul 18 2011, 12:58 PM

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QUOTE(shunryu @ Jul 18 2011, 08:40 AM)
That is another nice feature such that when you come to a traffic stop you won't have to downshift yourself to gear 1
but it is still possible to downshift and engage 'engine breaking' to further help braking the car into a complete stop.
Yes, haven't you read your manual?
it CAN be downshift as long as the engine rpm doesn't reach the redline, so in your case you downshifted around 30km/h to 40km/h which should be around 6k+ rpm in 1st gear which is still in safe zone.. But, if you downshift and the ecu realised that particular downshift will touch the redline, it wouldn't let you  smile.gif

The jerk you experienced is called 'engine braking', which refers to the braking effect caused by throttle position-induced vacuum in petrol engines. While some of the braking force is due to friction in the drive train, this is negligible compared to the effect from vacuum. When the throttle is lifted/closed, the air flow to the intake manifold is greatly restricted. The work the engine has to do against this partial-vacuum is what provides the braking effect.

Engine braking passively reduces wear on brakes and helps a driver maintain control of the vehicle. Active use of engine braking (shifting into a lower gear) is advantageous when it is necessary to control speed while driving down very steep and long slopes. It should be applied before regular disk or drum brakes have been used, leaving the brakes available to make emergency stops. The desired speed is maintained by using engine braking to counteract the gravitational acceleration. It also helps the vehicle to slow down faster when used along with brakes.
For more information, head to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Engine_braking  icon_idea.gif
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i am just asking about if there is a protection for mis-shift, i did not ask about why it jerks.

more soundproofing for my nhc!
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post Jul 18 2011, 01:14 PM

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QUOTE(kons @ Jul 18 2011, 12:58 PM)
i am just asking about if there is a protection for mis-shift, i did not ask about why it jerks.

more soundproofing for my nhc!
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That was to make clear so everybody could understand.

Firstly, please refer to your Honda Manual on page 205 and 207.
I help extract one important point for you :

While driving in S mode,
"You cannot downshift with the paddle shifter before the engine speed reaches the UPPER limit of the LOWER gear. If you try to do this, the gear position indicator will flash the number of the lower gear several times, then the indicator will display the higher gear number." (This is to protect the engine from over-revving and thus eliminates the risk of mis-shift)

It's clear that this feature itself serve as a protection purpose, which means you can NEVER mis-shift in a NHC.

"Also, you cannot upshift with the paddle shifter before the engine speed reaches the LOWER limit of the HIGHER gear." (This is for those who don't know why they couldn't upshift to higher gear at low rpm/speed)


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QUOTE(DaBestOne @ Jul 18 2011, 12:15 PM)
thumbup.gif does engine braking causes you to have higher fc?
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Engine braking is a generally accepted practice and can help save wear on friction brakes. It's even used in some motor sports to reduce the risk of the friction brakes overheating. Additionally, most modern engines don't use any fuel while engine braking which helps reduce fuel consumption. nod.gif

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post Jul 19 2011, 09:06 AM

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Any NHC owners faced faulty power window issue already? If not..
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post Jul 19 2011, 09:22 AM

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QUOTE(kons @ Jul 19 2011, 09:06 AM)
Any NHC owners faced faulty power window issue already? If not..
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What is your problem bro ??
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post Jul 19 2011, 09:52 AM

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QUOTE(calvin_gsc @ Jul 17 2011, 11:01 AM)
RM318 @ Welldone Audio Sg Besi.

DIY the Cold air intake pipe. Since I removed the original cold air intake panel on the hood.
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Nice mod u've got there
Bro calvin, could you take a picture of your cold air duct setup?
Where is the duct opening located at? hmm.gif
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QUOTE(shunryu @ Jul 18 2011, 01:14 PM)

Engine braking is a generally accepted practice and can help save wear on friction brakes. It's even used in some motor sports to reduce the risk of the friction brakes overheating. Additionally, most modern engines don't use any fuel while engine braking which helps reduce fuel consumption. nod.gif
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yea.. just wondering coz when u use engine braking then the rpm tend to be higher.. so im wondering if the fc will goes up as well.. anyway.. thanks.. cheers! thumbup.gif
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Hi guys,

Need some advise from those who have the rear Spoiler installed on your NHC, especially the duck tail Spoiler (Modulo).
I wonder how is the Spoiler secured on the boot?? hmm.gif
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It's better to spend money on ron97 or fully synthetic? I just filled a tank of ron97. The car is like full of spirit!
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peh
somebody really read that user manual
damn so cool
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post Jul 19 2011, 10:42 PM

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QUOTE(Speedoru @ Jul 19 2011, 06:46 PM)
Hi guys,

Need some advise from those who have the rear Spoiler installed on your NHC, especially the duck tail Spoiler (Modulo).
I wonder how is the Spoiler secured on the boot?? hmm.gif
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Most need 2 bolts and nuts to secure + double sided PE tape. Some opt for just tape


QUOTE(franson @ Jul 19 2011, 09:41 PM)
It's better to spend money on ron97 or fully synthetic? I just filled a tank of ron97. The car is like full of spirit!
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Full synthetic is term commonly used for engine oil. Not for fuel or petrol.

Google about it.

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post Jul 19 2011, 11:24 PM

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QUOTE(calvin_gsc @ Jul 19 2011, 10:42 PM)
Most need 2 bolts and nuts to secure + double sided PE tape. Some opt for just tape

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thanks 4 the reply,
bolts n nuts means drilling xtra holes to the boot? doh.gif
So, any idea where is the location they would drilled?

Or is there any other way to secure the spoiler other than the above mentioned method?
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post Jul 20 2011, 08:50 AM

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I think stick with 3M tape would be the most sensible solution because you could take it out / install other design of spoilers when you see fit smile.gif
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QUOTE(mokhzaini @ Jul 19 2011, 10:10 PM)
peh
somebody really read that user manual
damn so cool
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no need to read all just go through the manual and select things that is important to know. Skip basic things that you already know. I did flip through the manual once. Sometimes there are things there you might not know existed. It's good to go through manuals whenever you buy something new.
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QUOTE(calvin_gsc @ Jul 17 2011, 11:01 AM)
RM318 @ Welldone Audio Sg Besi.

DIY the Cold air intake pipe. Since I removed the original cold air intake panel on the hood.
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hi, where ur CAI inlet from? mine take a photo??
u got make hole at ur bumper???

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QUOTE(abubin @ Jul 20 2011, 12:27 PM)
no need to read all just go through the manual and select things that is important to know. Skip basic things that you already know. I did flip through the manual once. Sometimes there are things there you might not know existed. It's good to go through manuals whenever you buy something new.
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The manual is there for a reason
and it helps you to further know your vehicle from top to bottom and inside-out nod.gif
for a very interesting fact, i found out that our NHC car width is actually 1715mm compared to india /philipines model which is 1695mm..

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