"non-bumis were given equal opportunity too".............are u sure???

so...90% of vacancy reserve to bumi and maybe 10% to other races.......

regardless of capability...as long as bumi must fill the 90% vacancy...so u call this equal opportunity???

well...like wht i say....malaysia always left behind because of this kind of mindset....

bumi think the quota system is fair system....that's the problem....

I define "equal opportunity" not by the quota like you because I always believe that capability lies in individual not skin color.

If you agree with me that the capability lies in individual, quota or no quota is not important anymore.

But what you are trying to say here that non-bumi are more capable than bumi in driving PETRONAS to better levels - which is quite bothering.

I do have to agree that some PETRONAS staffs have this "comfortable" feels thus the "lay-back" attitude but that is normal throughout any organization. HR and immediate supervisors are responsible in identifying these sort of individuals and correct them.

I have experienced many cases where non-bumi are not capable in doing things, same goes with bumi that have no competencies. So, it hard to be you and draw a line and say bumi are not capable, while non-bumi are far more superior and capable.

People with mindsets like you that spread these sort of mentality and hatred towards each other when the quota thingy doesn't have to be something significant. We can live our normal life even though it is there. But people like you use this "quota issue" as an excuse to your failures.

Malaysia is small and the market is small but one thing for sure - don't let yourself have a small mind. Open your minds and look for opportunities beyond Malaysia if you must in order for you to succeed.

BTW, I will stop here as I am wayyy off-topic here. If you really want to talk more about this, kindly create a new thread where we can discuss this openly and equally with no "quota" - if you want lahhhh... If not, kindly stop your rant and move on. It is what it is, deal with it.

Y blame the company because you did not get to be chosen or work in the company? Oh please.. this thread is to discuss about the pay only, have a different mindset le.. if they only have 10%, find your way to be that 10% if 1% be that 1%... i hate to say this.. but life isn't that fair alwayz..

By the way, the salary went up ady? last time i heard is round 4.3k rite? hahaha..

Strongly Agree..I hope once the Sapura Kencana merging settle, there will be a changes..
Sapura..help!!

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Added on March 20, 2012, 10:58 amSingapore????!!! WTF...
I was working in Singapore..with one of their GLC company in O&G industry..racist..everywhere..the highest position
for local malays, Warehouse/Store Manager...after joining 20 Years..

This post has been edited by eandi: Mar 20 2012, 10:58 AM

come on doomdoom. we are waiting for your reply here

Hope someone can clarify, if the fresh grad pay of RM5090 is only for engineers or all?

Wow..good answer..as a chinesse muslim..shame on you..

shame on me...it's ok..i am just telling the truth........congratulation to u becoz u are in bumi status and goverment wil take care of u...

I seriously think this is not the place to talk about issues regarding 1st class citizen, 2nd class citizen, bumi status, non bumi status. Everyone has an opinion about that but this is not the right place to do it. Please bring this issue to other place. Thanks.

the irony is Hassan has been hired as director in many Singapore GLC's..so anyone up to say dat now Hassan is not a "bumi" and is not "capable" and he get into singapore GLC bcos of "luck"?what i meant is regardless of race, as long as we work hard and do our part, we will get reward from our God/Allah, ther is no nid to get so bloody frustrated over racist issue...dont let one bad apple spoil the whole basket...doesnt mean one PETRONAS fellow practice racism, it applies to all..LOL...just my 2 cents worth.

This post has been edited by acgerlok7: Mar 20 2012, 02:41 PM

doomdoom, you are hijacking this thread. As I mentioned earlier, please open a thread in RWI for you to argue about it.

thanx doomdoom...bcoz of ur harsh comments, u hv prompted me to reply to ur idiotic nonsense baseless opinions. all this while i hv been a silent reader.

first & foremost, u always praise s'pore by setting an example of how a country should be run. let me open up ur tiny mind. go google 'temasek review emeritus' n have a look how the people there suffer under the current government. even s'porean chinese complain of their gov who always prefer foreigners against local people. is that what u want? i bet u can't stand living there even for a week. so, stop talking rubbish!

secondly, in my opinion, ur definition of fair policy is only when u are accepted to join petronas. only then u will stop complaining. how shallow-minded u r. it's easy for one to say that a practice is fair when it favours their desire. duhh!!!

lastly....discrimination happens everywhere directly or indirectly. i had a sister who's been working at a chinese company and she was offered a position of supervisor although she has a degree. and their annual bonus is also based on race. chinese get more while non-chinese will get less. how pathetic is that?

when talking about this issue....you just made me notice how selfish and ignorant u r about the real world. so, stop all this crap with all due respect.

That why i only say just the "only" bumi i respected in Petronas..

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Added on March 20, 2012, 2:49 pmThe only way to throw all the unfair policy out from the G first, if everyone already in a fair play ground how u complain? Once you have a fair policy, law & order will come in hand cleaning all the rubbish out.. When NEP started, no more fair is concern.. What they concern is their pocket and how to survive RICH in this country using 30% share & other unfair policy just to grap those money from non-bumi which work hard in their ass.. While they just sit around enjoying the 30% free money...


This post has been edited by littlefire: Mar 20 2012, 02:49 PM

yes
take it out during the coming polls...
not here

+1

Dude, take this out of here. This is a jobs and careers section. If you tak puas with Petronas or the government policy go somewhere else. These ppl are asking some serious questions here.

hv u ever known why NEP was established in the first place? i dun want to elaborate more as i believed u have sat for your Sejarah paper in SPM (i dunno whether u got A for the subject though)

& u've made it seem as if the remaining 70% were the working hard ppl and pay tax to the gov. knock! knock! hellooo!!! we contribute to the country's economy as well & we do pay taxes! get a life, the world doesn't revolve around u.


& with all due respect again...i hope we cn put this sh*t to a full stop.

LOL

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Added on March 20, 2012, 3:12 pmNo matter how hard we try, each and everyone of us is a racist. So it doesn't matter where and who you're working with. And yeah, PETRONAS is one of them. I'm a bumi and local Sarawakian, been dealing with them for years. It all boils back to what Sarawak is getting. 5% royalty? PFFFFT!

This post has been edited by h0inerve: Mar 20 2012, 03:12 PM

Then until now, does NEP really help all the poor bumi or just to enrich a few?

This post has been edited by littlefire: Mar 20 2012, 03:15 PM

Nevermind..just forgive doomdoom for his statement..

Lets get back into the main issue..is it true Pet freash grad will be RM5090..
If its true then I'm going to increase my expected salary during the S.I with Pet.

BTW..Hassan Marican is now with SembCorp Marine...I was with them 4 years ago..they pay me SGD$3500, and its
a big money for me during that time since I was staying in JB and travelling each day..

This post has been edited by eandi: Mar 20 2012, 03:19 PM