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diazzaid
post Mar 20 2012, 04:14 PM

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QUOTE(littlefire @ Mar 20 2012, 03:14 PM)
Then until now, does NEP really help all the poor bumi or just to enrich a few?  hmm.gif
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Rome was not built in one day. that's all i can say.or do u have any other way to skin a cat?

i guess i'll just stop here. no points of arguing. this issue will never end until doomsday or shall i rephrase it to doomdoomday? tongue.gif

till then, bye guys! PEACE

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post Mar 20 2012, 04:43 PM

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QUOTE(diazzaid @ Mar 20 2012, 04:14 PM)
Rome was not built in one day. that's all i can say.or do u have any other way to skin a cat?

i guess i'll just stop here. no points of arguing. this issue will never end until doomsday or shall i rephrase it to doomdoomdaytongue.gif

till then, bye guys! PEACE
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this is funny laugh.gif
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post Mar 20 2012, 04:51 PM

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QUOTE(eandi @ Mar 20 2012, 03:15 PM)
Nevermind..just forgive doomdoom for his statement..

Lets get back into the main issue..is it true Pet freash grad will be RM5090..
If its true then I'm going to increase my expected salary during the S.I with Pet.

BTW..Hassan Marican is now with SembCorp Marine...I was with them 4 years ago..they pay me SGD$3500, and its
a big money for me during that time since I was staying in JB and travelling each day..
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from friends who deals with petronas, that day visited them and he helped me ask: 5k UTP fresh grads, others can ask from 3.5k to 4k
azraeil
post Mar 20 2012, 06:54 PM

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QUOTE(echobrainproject @ Mar 20 2012, 11:51 AM)
from friends who deals with petronas, that day visited them and he helped me ask: 5k UTP fresh grads, others can ask from 3.5k to 4k
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Unlikely because PETRONAS has a group wide salary scheme. Unless they do the remuneration based on your skill groups. I know once you are in skill group 9 or 10 (Geoscience/Petroleum Engineering), then you are on a different remuneration scale (higher bonus, increments, and faster track for promotion).

I suspect this is what your friends are referring to. I still doubt it though because PETRONAS don't usually group the entry staff. They do it after a couple of years.
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QUOTE(azraeil @ Mar 20 2012, 06:54 PM)
Unlikely because PETRONAS has a group wide salary scheme. Unless they do the remuneration based on your skill groups. I know once you are in skill group 9 or 10 (Geoscience/Petroleum Engineering), then you are on a different remuneration scale (higher bonus, increments, and faster track for promotion).

I suspect this is what your friends are referring to. I still doubt it though because PETRONAS don't usually group the entry staff. They do it after a couple of years.
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thanks for clarifying. like i said, i heard it from a friend. take it with a pinch of salt til someone verifies
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post Mar 23 2012, 03:21 PM

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i have chit chat with Petronas HR person yesterday..
fresh engineer pay should be 4k..but they plan to raise up to 4.5k this year (not confirm yet)..
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post Mar 23 2012, 03:38 PM

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QUOTE(rey07 @ Mar 23 2012, 03:21 PM)
i have chit chat with Petronas HR person yesterday..
fresh engineer pay should be 4k..but they plan to raise up to 4.5k this year (not confirm yet)..
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Wah..good2..can demand ma..
Do some calculation now..

If Fresh RM4.5k..
Then after next Year ..it will be
2nd- +8% Increment = RM4860
3rd- +8% Increment = RM5248.8
4th- +8% Increment = RM5668.7
5th- +8% Increment = RM6122.2
6th- +8% Increment = RM6612
7th- +8% Increment = RM7141
8th- +8% Increment = RM7712
and after 20 Years = RM..........

hehehe..Got time to calculate, since i'm not busy rite now...

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post Mar 23 2012, 03:45 PM

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their increment is based on annual? Not performance wise? From all the senior staff at shell here, where i currently working at their project, they said working with petronas is most underpaid for them. They easily get 30k+/- currently working as contractor in commissioning department.
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QUOTE(ben3003 @ Mar 23 2012, 03:45 PM)
their increment is based on annual? Not performance wise? From all the senior staff at shell here, where i currently working at their project, they said working with petronas is most underpaid for them. They easily get 30k+/- currently working as contractor in commissioning department.
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i think it should be lower for senior position if compared with other company in that same position..
but salary for fresh grad it was good..
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post Mar 23 2012, 04:06 PM

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yeah their fresh grad pay is nice tho.. just tat they say no good staying in petronas long, underpaid lol... it makes petronas looks like feeder company, train ppl feed to other company smile.gif But i heard petronas turnover rate not so high tho smile.gif probably if u prefer a secure job, can join petronas smile.gif I am a contractor tho, not really brilliant result, that's why cant join permanent staff, have to go the side path lol..
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QUOTE(ben3003 @ Mar 23 2012, 03:45 PM)
their increment is based on annual? Not performance wise? From all the senior staff at shell here, where i currently working at their project, they said working with petronas is most underpaid for them. They easily get 30k+/- currently working as contractor in commissioning department.
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30K including offshore allowance?? I knew some of them from Oceancare, usually Seconded to SSB..do the hook up &
Commissioning..Even SSB pays for Material Co-ordinator, 1 Year Contracts, Basic RM18k..
Petronas staff is underpaid..but I beleive it more stable..remember somewhere around 2008, where the Oil Price drop down, and all shell project @ fabrication yard has been suspended for almost 7 months..
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post Mar 23 2012, 05:14 PM

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not including offshore allowance. Cos they are taking those kind of pay working at onshore project. That's what i've heard la.. i dont know the real stuff tho biggrin.gif but should be roughly there
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post Mar 23 2012, 10:32 PM

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ppl at here said that the new entry salary scheme for fresh graduate had been increased to 5k, however it is only applied for UTP graduate.

Is it true ? Any Petronasian can verify it ?
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post Mar 24 2012, 01:31 PM

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QUOTE(ixus @ Mar 23 2012, 05:32 PM)
ppl at here said that the new entry salary scheme for fresh graduate had been increased to 5k, however it is only applied for UTP graduate.

Is it true ? Any Petronasian can verify it ?
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No. All fresh grad will get 5K. There will be NO medical benefit, no Housing Loan benefit and no car loan benefit.
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post Mar 26 2012, 05:40 PM

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how about geology fresh graduates? does petronas take them in anyhow? how is the starting salary like ?
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post Mar 27 2012, 01:40 AM

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QUOTE(uhhwilliam @ Mar 26 2012, 12:40 PM)
how about geology fresh graduates? does petronas take them in anyhow? how is the starting salary like ?
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Of course PETRONAS would love to take Geology fresh grads. The pay will be the same when you enter but after 2-3 years and once you pass the technical assessment, you will be assigned to your skill group and you will be in tier 1 or 2 (high demand skill group) where you will be on different remuneration scheme (faster promotion, higher merit increment, higher bonus and technical allowances). By the time you have 7-9 years experience, you should be looking at 12-15k salary range.
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QUOTE(azraeil @ Mar 27 2012, 01:40 AM)
Of course PETRONAS would love to take Geology fresh grads. The pay will be the same when you enter but after 2-3 years and once you pass the technical assessment, you will be assigned to your skill group and you will be in tier 1 or 2 (high demand skill group) where you will be on different remuneration scheme (faster promotion, higher merit increment, higher bonus and technical allowances). By the time you have 7-9 years experience, you should be looking at 12-15k salary range.
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I am more than happy to oblige to undertake the technical assessment and the process involved, but do you mind briefing me about what goes on during that period and how they assess your capabilities and aptitude? blink.gif and I have one important question for everyone, how do other companies(e.g. Middle East, Australia etc) start looking you up to give you job offers overseas? Do they go through your company's HR beforehand and ask how many years experience have you had or something? Sorry haha I'm not well-versed with these things and I love to plan ahead a lot. Please enlighten me? icon_question.gif
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post Mar 30 2012, 07:49 PM

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how is the annual increment for fresh graduate in petronas ?

let's say fresh graduate 4k, after confirm how much ?
and how is the annual increment in E1 level ?
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post Mar 30 2012, 07:51 PM

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QUOTE(poilamacs @ Jun 2 2011, 11:30 PM)
Is anyone know how is the current pay for fresh graduate engineer (E1) in petronas ?

i heard is 4k, does it include any allowance ?
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If it is really RM4k, does it matter whether it include allowance or otherwise? I think RM4k is way above market value.
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post Mar 31 2012, 02:10 PM

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QUOTE(ixus @ Mar 30 2012, 08:49 PM)
how is the annual increment for fresh graduate in petronas ?

let's say fresh graduate 4k, after confirm how much ?
and how is the annual increment in E1 level ?
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After confirmation (6months), there is no increment and there is no technical allowance also for Tier 1 and Tier 2 staffs even after working one year. The annual increment is based on your performance.


Added on March 31, 2012, 2:12 pm
QUOTE(azraeil @ Mar 24 2012, 02:31 PM)
No. All fresh grad will get 5K. There will be NO medical benefit, no Housing Loan benefit and no car loan benefit.
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Poor the previous batch like us, starting 4k, capped medical benefit (4k outpatient, 35k hospitalization yearly), no housing and car loan benefit. I would rather forgo my capped medical benefit for that addtional 1k per month. cry.gif


Added on March 31, 2012, 2:14 pm
QUOTE(ixus @ Mar 23 2012, 11:32 PM)
ppl at here said that the new entry salary scheme for fresh graduate had been increased to 5k, however it is only applied for UTP graduate.

Is it true ? Any Petronasian can verify it ?
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No such thing if they segregate the pay based on which uni that you graduated from, how about those petronas scholars from overseas uni, are they subjected to higher pay then UTP? Once you enter petronas, you will be treated equally. smile.gif

This post has been edited by mangoman: Mar 31 2012, 02:14 PM

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