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post Aug 12 2005, 01:37 PM, updated 20y ago

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What is a pickup ?

A pickup device acts as a transducer that captures mechanical vibrations (usually from suitably equipped stringed instruments such as the electric guitar, electric bass guitar or electric violin) and converts them to an electronic signal which can be amplified and recorded.

What's the meaning of s-s-s ?

Usually an electric guitar has more than one magnetic pickup. A combination of pickups is called a pickup configuration. It is usually notated by just writing out the pickup types, using "S" for single-coil and "H" for humbucker, in order from neck pickup to bridge pickup.

Popular pickup configurations include:

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A S-S pickup configuration on a 60th Anniversary American Telecaster®

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A S-S-S pickup configuration on a 60th Anniversary American Stratocaster®

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A H-H pickup configuration on an American Stratocaster® HH

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A H-H pickup configuration on a Gibson Les Paul® Standard

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A H-S pickup configuration on an American Telecaster® HS

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A H-S-S pickup configuration on an American Stratocaster® HSS


How does the pickup "sound" ?

The turns of wire in close proximity to each other have an equivalent self-capacitance which, when added to any cable capacitance present, resonates with the inductance of the winding. This resonance can accentuate certain frequencies, giving the pickup a characteristic tonal quality. The more turns of wire in the winding, the higher the output voltage but the lower this resonant frequency. The inductive source impedance inherent in this type of transducer makes it less linear than other forms of pickups, such as piezo-electric or optical. The tonal quality produced by this nonlinearity is, however, subject to taste, and may therefore also be considered by some to be aesthetically superior to that of a more linear transducer.

The external load usually consists of resistance (the volume and tone potentiometer in the guitar, and any resistance to ground at the amplifier input) and capacitance between the hot lead and shield in the guitar cable. The cable capacitance has a large effect and must not be neglected. This arrangement of passive components forms a second-order low-pass filter. Electromagnetic pickups are usually designed to feed a high input impedance, typically a megaohm or more and a low impedance load will reduce the high-frequency response of the pickup because of the filtering effect of the inductance.

What's a humbucker ?

One problem with electromagnetic pickups is that - along with the musical signal - they also pick up mains hum. Mains hum consists of a fundamental signal at a nominal 50 or 60 Hz, depending on local alternating current frequency, and usually some harmonic content. The changing magnetic flux caused by the mains current links with the windings of the pickup, inducing a voltage by transformer action.

To overcome this effect, the humbucking pickup was developed, originally by Seth Lover of Gibson. A humbucking pickup comprises two standard pickups wired together in series. However, the magnets of the two pickups are reversed in polarity, and the windings are also reversed. Thus, any hum or other common mode extraneous noise that is picked up is canceled out, while the musical signal is reinforced. A side effect of this technique is that the overall inductance of the pickup is increased, attenuating the higher frequencies and giving a duller tone.

What's a passive and active pick-ups ?

Pick-ups can be either active and passive. Pickups, apart from optical types, are inherently passive transducers. So-called active pickups incorporate electronic circuitry to modify the signal. Passive pick-ups are usually wire wound around a magnet. They can generate electric potential without need for external power, though their output is relatively low, and the harmonic content of output depends greatly on the winding.

Passive pick-ups are very convenient as they require no power source to operate. They are most popular and widely used pick-up type on electric guitars, and their frequency response curve is unique to the type and manufacturer.


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EMG 85 - one of the most famous active pickups in the world


Active pick-ups require an electrical source of energy to operate and include an electronic preamp, active filters, active EQ and other sound-shaping features. They can sometimes give much higher possible output (in comparison to passive) and much flatter frequency response curve. They also are less affected in tone by varying lengths of amplifier lead, and amplifier input characteristics. Magnetic pick-ups used with 'active' circuitry usually feature a lower inductance (and initially lower output) winding that tends to give a flatter frequency response curve.

The disadvantages of active pick-ups are the power source (usually either a battery or phantom power), cost, and less defined unique tonal signature. They are more popular on bass guitars, because of their solid tone; most high-end bass guitars feature an active pick-up. Most piezoelectric and all optical pick-ups are active and include some sort of preamp.

Review of EMG 85 and EMG 81 active pickups, by Everdying

Does the pickup affects the guitar's sustain ?

Sustain is also affected by magnetic pull exerted by the pickup magnets. There are 2 ways this happens:

1) Direct magnetic attraction causes damping of the strings.

2) The magnetic attraction causes the strings to crash into the frets, the consequent rattling or buzzing thereby robs them of energy and thus shortens sustain.

Most single coil pickups use Alnico-5 magnets that are quite strong, actually it's excessively strong. A Stratocaster, and some Telecasters, use 3 magnets under each string so are the worst affected instruments. Most Telecasters use 2 magnets under each string and are less affected. Side-by-side humbuckers exert very little magnetic damping. Magnetic pull on the strings can be allievaited by adjusting the pickups away from the strings but that reduces output and adversly affects signal/noise ratio.

Can I make my own pickup ?

QUOTE(bartimaeus @ Apr 12 2006, 03:49 PM)
What other pickup brands are available ?

The famous brands are DiMarzio, EMG and Seymour Duncan (this is based on what LYN Musicians posted). There are many other brands .... just GOOGLE LA shakehead.gif



Credit to: Wikipedia®, Fender, Gibson, EMG and all LYN Musicians

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You might want to change the Topic's Title to "Pickups Question" instead of "tips on how to choose the right guitar"
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humbuckers are generally more powerful and well.... doesnt hum... unlike single coils
the more pickups you got the more versatile the guitar is...no doubt bout that....
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i hardly use my middle and neck pu. it's bridge pu for me all the way...
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post Aug 12 2005, 02:01 PM

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for me, my ideal PU setting would be H-S-H and 3 way switch (instead of 5)....Humbucker for the fat and distortion and single coil for clean sound....that's all i need.... my current guitar is H-H and i use both of them in my playing...well neck for my solo and bridge pu to satisfy my addiction for Ping of Death tongue.gif ...

some of the Ibanez that i've tried with H-S-H and 5 way switch does not really separate the tone well...u can't really feel the switch (means no diferrent in tone) ...that's y i just need 3 way switch in my future guitar....
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single coils give out the "twang" sound.. try and listen to hendrix's tracks and u'll c wat i mean.. or maybe even pink floyd.. coz roger walters uses a strat.
humbuckers give out fat and powerful sound, ideal for distortion and powerchords, and good for solos.

as for which pickup is better? it's all preference and ur type of music..


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Mostly heavy metal music uses humbuckers......... USUALLY.
Mainly because they want the most tone they can squeeze out of their pickups.
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QUOTE(metalhead @ Aug 12 2005, 02:01 PM)
for me, my ideal PU setting would be H-S-H and 3 way switch (instead of 5)....Humbucker for the fat and distortion and single coil for clean sound....that's all i need.... my current guitar is H-H and i use both of them in my playing...well neck for my solo and bridge pu to satisfy my addiction for Ping of Death tongue.gif ...

some of the Ibanez that i've tried with H-S-H and 5 way switch does not really separate the tone well...u can't really feel the switch (means no diferrent in tone) ...that's y i just need 3 way switch in my future guitar....
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well the 1st 3rd and 5th position of the 5 way switch is exactly the same as a 3 way...
assuming 1st pos = bridge
2nd= single
3rd = neck

so if you install a 3 way instead of a 5 on the HSH guitar u tried it'll sound exactly the same
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I editied the Topic's Title so that everyone has a clear understand on what this topic is all about .... Pickups biggrin.gif

I'm fine with the Single Coils. They sound "clear" and "clean" aslo does a pretty good job when in overdrive ... of course Humbuckers are better with Overdrive.

It's really depends on what you're playing. If u're like blacktrix who plays every songs with overdrive .... he would prefer those Humbuckers.
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QUOTE(evo.com @ Aug 12 2005, 02:44 PM)
well the 1st 3rd and 5th position of the 5 way switch is exactly the same as a 3 way...
assuming 1st pos = bridge
2nd= single
3rd = neck

so if you install a 3 way instead of a 5 on the HSH guitar u tried it'll sound exactly the same
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well, actually this is wat i meant....the second and forth position doesn't really do anything on the tone, from what i tried .... on an Ibanez RG ....that y i rather have a 3 way...
1 - Neck Humbucker
2 - Single Coil
3 - Bridge Humbucker

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Not true for over-driven.....
Blues players also use humbuckers.....
They produce a very warm tone for those kind of music.

And contrary to popular believe, I DO play clean music......
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QUOTE(nerd @ Aug 12 2005, 02:33 PM)
single coils give out the "twang" sound.. try and listen to hendrix's tracks and u'll c wat i mean.. or maybe even pink floyd.. coz roger walters uses a strat.
humbuckers give out fat and powerful sound, ideal for distortion and powerchords, and good for solos.
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Err... Roger Waters is the bassist lar... he plays guitar occasionally but I think you're refering to Dave Gilmour.

Different pickup positions give you a different sound. The neck pickup sounds warmer as compared to the bridge pickup and the neck pickup picks up notes played on higher frets better, hence the better pickup to use when soloing. Pickup height makes a lot of difference in tone too(I haven't experiment with those as I'm really lazy tongue.gif ).

Anybody know the difference of the magnets used?? Alcinos etc...???
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QUOTE(blacktrix @ Aug 12 2005, 02:58 PM)
Not true for over-driven.....
Blues players also use humbuckers.....
They produce a very warm tone for those kind of music.

And contrary to popular believe, I DO play clean music......
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Yeah man.. people stereotype hums too much. country musicians also use a lot of LP and archtops with hums. And a clean hum provides a good rhythm sound too. thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(led_zep_freak @ Aug 12 2005, 03:04 PM)
Anybody know the difference of the magnets used?? Alcinos etc...???
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I read somewhere that the stornger the magnet .... the longer the sustain huh.gif

Yes ? no ? unsure.gif
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No!! The weaker the magnet, the longer the sustain!

I think... tongue.gif

Alcino II and alcino IV is usually the popular choice for pickups. Both of them sound alike but there's a saying, "Alcino IV is poor man's Alcino II,"
Or is it the other way round??? tongue.gif

I'ill do some research later and get back to you guys lol! tongue.gif

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QUOTE(led_zep_freak @ Aug 12 2005, 03:09 PM)
No!! The weaker the magnet, the longer the sustain!

I think... tongue.gif
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Are you sure ? huh.gif My Fizik teacher (if i remember correctly) said that "Daya magnet yang kuat menghasilkan daya kekalan yang panjang" .... unsure.gif

BTW: I got credit for Fizik SPM ..... biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(TheWhacker @ Aug 12 2005, 03:19 PM)
Are you sure ?  huh.gif My Fizik teacher (if i remember correctly) said that "Daya magnet yang kuat menghasilkan daya kekalan yang panjang" ....  unsure.gif

BTW: I got credit for Fizik SPM .....  biggrin.gif
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Sustain is also affected by magnetic pull exerted by the pickup magnets. There are 2 ways this happens: 1) Direct magnetic attraction causes damping of the strings. 2) The magnetic attraction causes the strings to crash into the frets, the consequent rattling or buzzing thereby robs them of energy and thus shortens sustain. Most single coil pickups use Alnico-5 magnets that are quite strong, actually it's excessively strong. A Stratocaster, and some Telecasters, use 3 magnets under each string so are the worst affected instruments. Most Telecasters use 2 magnets under each string and are less affected. Side-by-side humbuckers exert very little magnetic damping. Magnetic pull on the strings can be allievaited by adjusting the pickups away from the strings but that reduces output and adversly affects signal/noise ratio.

Kinman's special Alnico-5 magnets that exert 40% less magnetic pull on the strings actually allow maximum Sustain. You also get less rattling and buzzing and consequently a cleaner sound. Many players are simply astonished when they hear the pristine, uncluttered pure sound from Kinman's for the first time. My low-gauss magnets allow the pickups to be adjsuted close to the strings but because they are noiseless it doesn't matter if you prefer to adjust them away. The signal to noise ratio remains excellent regardless.
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hmm intresting....i personally find humbuckers not humming hehe..i find the sound sharp...n erm...strong...so i only use them for solos...but not when strumming...as i play more rythm i normally use the middle n the bridge....not too sure about the 3 way switch...havent tried any guitar tat has 3 way switch.

i was thinkin of lookin for a cheap epi LP over at uk if im goin this sept...so still thinkin if single coils are better or 2 hums...

i remember testin out a godin at guitar store....its has 3 singles if not wrong ..n it sounds very er.. "creamy"? very diff from my cheap samick...which i asked how much would it cost to get a new set of pick ups..n the price could get me another samick...eeks
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QUOTE(led_zep_freak @ Aug 12 2005, 03:27 PM)
[Shamelessly] I got A1 [/Shamelessly] tongue.gif  tongue.gif
QUOTE(Kinman.com)
Sustain is also affected by magnetic pull exerted by the pickup magnets. There are 2 ways this happens: 1) Direct magnetic attraction causes damping of the strings. 2) The magnetic attraction causes the strings to crash into the frets, the consequent rattling or buzzing thereby robs them of energy and thus shortens sustain. Most single coil pickups use Alnico-5 magnets that are quite strong, actually it's excessively strong. A Stratocaster, and some Telecasters, use 3 magnets under each string so are the worst affected instruments. Most Telecasters use 2 magnets under each string and are less affected. Side-by-side humbuckers exert very little magnetic damping. Magnetic pull on the strings can be allievaited by adjusting the pickups away from the strings but that reduces output and adversly affects signal/noise ratio.

Kinman's special Alnico-5 magnets that exert 40% less magnetic pull on the strings actually allow maximum Sustain. You also get less rattling and buzzing and consequently a cleaner sound. Many players are simply astonished when they hear the pristine, uncluttered pure sound from Kinman's for the first time. My low-gauss magnets allow the pickups to be adjsuted close to the strings but because they are noiseless it doesn't matter if you prefer to adjust them away. The signal to noise ratio remains excellent regardless.
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if this is going to be a who's better at physics competition, well i got a1 too and i got silver for the national level physics quiz. tongue.gif ok, enough being an *******. back to topic, i duno much about pickups such as types of magnets for pickups and their difference. i only know the basic like how pickups works etc.
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QUOTE(tytons @ Aug 12 2005, 04:10 PM)
hmm intresting....i personally find humbuckers not humming hehe..i find the sound sharp...n erm...strong...so i only use them for solos...but not when strumming...as i play more rythm i normally use the middle n the bridge....not too sure about the 3 way switch...havent tried any guitar tat has 3 way switch.

i was thinkin of lookin for a cheap epi LP over at uk if im goin this sept...so still thinkin if single coils are better or 2 hums...

i remember testin out a godin at guitar store....its has 3 singles if not wrong ..n it sounds very er.. "creamy"? very diff from my cheap samick...which i asked how much would it cost to get a new set of pick ups..n the price could get me another samick...eeks
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ANOTHER EPI converter!! come this Way! heherr.. anyway my heart was torn between the Godin and the Sheraton actually but after I tried the Godin it sounded much like a tele and I've already got that one. but it does sond really good especially the sig model which has an acoustic pickup! SWEET!
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QUOTE(metalhead @ Aug 12 2005, 02:58 PM)
http://www.ibanez.co.jp/world/products/eg/...ages/01_hsh.gif

well, actually this is wat i meant....the second and forth position doesn't really do anything on the tone, from what i tried .... on an Ibanez RG ....that y i rather have a 3 way...
1 - Neck Humbucker
2 - Single Coil
3 - Bridge Humbucker

yala but y settle for less when you can have xtra?smile.gif
the single + neck in pos 2 is incredibly nice for blues...
pos 4 is juz more treble...
if you still dont like it... you can always change the settings..
maybe coil tap in pos 2.... parallel...etc

all im trying to say is that the more you have the more versatile it is tongue.gif
unlike pots where it actually affects the tone frequency...

btw... anyone tried the fernandes sustainer before?
i know it increase sustain by heaps... but i wonder how does the tone compare to normal d'addario pups or SDs
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QUOTE(evo.com @ Aug 12 2005, 05:11 PM)
btw... anyone tried the fernandes sustainer before?
i know it increase sustain by heaps... but i wonder how does the tone compare to normal d'addario pups or SDs
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It's not just 'increased sustain' but also infinite sustain. There's a harmonic button, once you flick it, the note you're sustaining would turn into a screaming harmonic. The fernades sustainer's more like an effect if you ask me. tongue.gif Very useful too if you wanna sustain clean tones.

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harmonic button... wow...
would really love to try one someday
any of you guys try an e-bow before?... bloody awesome to play with

EDIT: post before --> Dimarzio
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QUOTE(evo.com @ Aug 12 2005, 06:32 PM)
any of you guys try an e-bow before?... bloody awesome to play with
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Yeah? You've played with it before??? It cost quite a bomb, but it can create a whole lot of sound right?? Including the infinite sustain... cool.gif

Check out the Fernades website for Sustainer vids. thumbup.gif
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yea i got to play with it for like 30 mins or so... alot of effects...
its selling for around 190NZ here so i guess its around RM500

it'll be very cool on stage... when u play a violin solo with your guitar tongue.gif tongue.gif
i wouldnt buy it thou... 190 too much for a toy...
wont mind getting it for a bday present tongue.gif hint* hint*
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Well, you could create that infinite sustain with that toy! tongue.gif

I don't mind too... tongue.gif *hint* *hint*
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is it me or has no one said anything about coil splitting ?
u could have a H-H setup and still have the sound of a single...
so its more versitile...
right ?


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QUOTE(evo.com @ Aug 12 2005, 05:11 PM)
yala but y settle for less when you can have xtra?smile.gif
the single + neck in pos 2 is incredibly nice for blues...
pos 4 is juz more treble...
if you still dont like it... you can always change the settings..
maybe coil tap in pos 2.... parallel...etc

all im trying to say is that the more you have the more versatile it is tongue.gif
unlike pots where it actually affects the tone frequency...

btw... anyone tried the fernandes sustainer before?
i know it increase sustain by heaps... but i wonder how does the tone compare to normal d'addario pups or SDs
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eventhou it wont be exactly the same as a single coil.... it sure adds versatility
futhermore.... its piss easy to add the mod
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guys, i'm using emg hz-h4 pickups. read from the emg website it is recommended string grounded to reduce noise. can anyone here explain the term "sring grounded" to me? does it mean that lower the action???
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i was about to open a new thread regarding guitar/bass pickups. luckily i did a topic search first...

any of you guys know where to get the followings locally?

DiMarzio
Evolution 7 DP704 (bridge)
Tone Zone 7 DP755 (bridge)
Air Norton 7 DP793 (neck)

Seymour Duncan
SH-2 jazz 7 (neck)
SH-4 jb 7 (bridge)
SH-6 duncan distortion 7 (bridge)
SH-8 invader 7 (bridge)

EMG
EMG-707

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Thinking of getting the Jeff Beck pickup for my Strat clone as well.... Apparently, that's what Billie Joe Armstrong used in his original Fernendes "Blue" Telecaster
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QUOTE(blacktrix @ Jan 10 2006, 09:06 PM)
Thinking of getting the Jeff Beck pickup for my Strat clone as well.... Apparently, that's what Billie Joe Armstrong used in his original Fernendes "Blue" Telecaster
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I guess you can't go far wrong with the JB since it's a popular replacement pup but I've read quite a number of negative reviews, most of them claim that it doesn't have enough clarity. How about a DiMarzio? thumbup.gif

Just a suggestion btw. Why not wait till your new LP arrives and transfer the active pups into the strat? Then put a pair of Alcino pups in your Epiphone? You will have 2 different LPs and at the same time bring the strat alive. smile.gif
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xnobys : dimarzio = Woh Fatt (very limited amount of pick ups, but they do have the main ones... check it out), seymour duncan = Bentleys, EMG = Bentleys
in singapore, they have more choices.
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I still have 2 open Coiled humbuckers from the Les Paul-100..... although I'm TOTALY not impressed by them. I'd rather spend an extra 350 bucks on a new humbucker then use the old open coils..... probably sell it on ebay or something.....

And the Passive pick-ups from the Epi-ZW is going to be swapped for the EMG-ZWs on my current Epi-100.........
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Opps I've forgotten both LPs are Epi. Anyway what I meant was put new Alcinos (SD, DiMarzio, Swineshead or even... BKPs!) on the Epi-100 and the EMG-ZW on the Epi-ZW while placing the original Epi-ZW pups in the strat. heh...
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Tempting....... But I'll see how the Passive will sound like first..... then I'll make a decision.
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QUOTE(xnobys @ Jan 10 2006, 08:16 PM)
i was about to open a new thread regarding guitar/bass pickups. luckily i did a topic search first...

any of you guys know where to get the followings locally?

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DiMarzio (check at Woh Fatt, they just got some new stock for the new year thumbup.gif)
Evolution 7 DP704 (bridge)
Tone Zone 7 DP755 (bridge)
Air Norton 7 DP793 (neck)

Seymour Duncan
SH-2 jazz 7 (neck) (Bentley got few, better call them, limited units since that haven't bring in new stock yet)
SH-4 jb 7 (bridge) (same as above)
SH-6 duncan distortion 7 (bridge) (same as above)
SH-8 invader 7 (bridge) (same as above)

I just make some phone calls and what i know it's up there.

They didn't tell me how many units they have coz they're not sure, so better you call them up and go down and see for yourself. biggrin.gif
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xnobys : dimarzio = Woh Fatt (very limited amount of pick ups, but they do have the main ones... check it out), seymour duncan = Bentleys, EMG = Bentleys
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DiMarzio (check at Woh Fatt, they just got some new stock for the new year  thumbup.gif)
Evolution 7 DP704 (bridge)
Tone Zone 7 DP755 (bridge)
Air Norton 7 DP793 (neck)

Seymour Duncan
SH-2 jazz 7 (neck) (Bentley got few, better call them, limited units since that haven't bring in new stock yet)
SH-4 jb 7 (bridge) (same as above)
SH-6 duncan distortion 7 (bridge) (same as above)
SH-8 invader 7 (bridge) (same as above)

I just make some phone calls and what i know it's up there.

They didn't tell me how many units they have coz they're not sure, so better you call them up and go down and see for yourself.  biggrin.gif
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that's merely what an Elite could have done, if he wasnt' so OBSESSED by his own little world.

yes, it's my sandy vagina talking... biggrin.gif
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any idea where could we actually hear these pickups b4 buyin them?i dun hav tat many frens who play guitar...even if i do...sadly i think better then most of them tho im no any good...
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Seymour Duncan's website
http://www.seymourduncan.com

But you could hardly hear the difference and it seems that the demo guy plugged his guitar into a cheap SS amp lol.
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JB VS Duncan Distortion
JB sounds "cleaner" while Distortion sounds more raw..

Do you know how much does Duncan Distortion costs?

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Any reccomendations if i wanna upgrade my bass punya pups???
J - J style.
DiMarzio Ultra Jazz???

Want a nice deep sound. Haha. Ooh dunwan actives lar...malas nak tukar battery. hahahaha!!!!
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anyone knows where to buy Duncan-Designed pups? Do SD actually sell them separately?

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dimarzio ? woh fatt and --maybe-- JS music (or is it CK ?)
check the music shops thread to get the phone numbers and ask them directly.
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anyone heard of GFS pickups? any good? cos there are some nice reviews at harmony-central..
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Btw.. How much does the DiMarzio Evolution currently costs?

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I think someone posted the price for that pickup long time back .... just do a search in this forum. icon_rolleyes.gif
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i'm thinking of changing my LP-100 stock pick up to EMG-HZ or Seymour Duncan SH-12......and leave the neck pick up slot empty... what u guys think of it....
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i'm thinking of changing my LP-100 stock pick up to EMG-HZ or Seymour Duncan SH-12......and leave the neck pick up slot empty... what u guys think of it....
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You mean you want to change only one pickup ? blink.gif

If you are then .... it looks weird having one pickup slot empty .... its like wearing one shoe instead of a pair ...

I think it will effect your sound too ..... coz you cant use the 3 switch selector
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QUOTE(TheWhacker @ Apr 12 2006, 10:30 AM)
You mean you want to change only one pickup ?  blink.gif

If you are then .... it looks weird having one pickup slot empty .... its like wearing one shoe instead of a pair ...

I think it will effect your sound too ..... coz you cant use the 3 switch selector
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You can always leave the stock neck pup there.
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You can always leave the stock neck pup there.
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Maybe you should make your own. biggrin.gif

Thanks to bartimaeus.

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zzub, you can either
- remove the neck pickup (visual impact ? look cool IMO... sound impact ? well, you have only one left available pickup so it reduces your 'versatility')
- keep the neck pickup (it won't alter the sound of you bridge pickup at all, as long as your pickup selector is set on "lead". If you set to the middle position or to "rythm", then the neck pickup is used).

If you use only the bridge pickup, i'd say you remove the neck pickup.. your guitar would look more 'extreme'. And according to the kind of pickup you want to put in, you don't mind looking more extreme laugh.gif
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Thanks Man for the advice thumbup.gif i'll consider which is the best for my LP....

and about the "extream look" thing....never cross my mind before.. biggrin.gif mybe u juz give me some idea....Thanks again icon_rolleyes.gif

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check out Everdying's april fool thread... dunno where it is. you can see a single pickup SG... quite mean looking smile.gif
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Hmm.. how come only talk about electric pickups only here? no acoustics?

Anyone tried out the Takamine Valve preamp and pickup setup? finally.. a valve on an acoustic!!
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QUOTE(raist86 @ May 11 2006, 05:45 PM)
Hmm.. how come only talk about electric pickups only here? no acoustics?

Anyone tried out the Takamine Valve preamp and pickup setup? finally.. a valve on an acoustic!!
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Yeah, but the price on those Takamines is kinda....  sweat.gif  sweat.gif Looks pretty solid though... smile.gif
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Review done by Everdying:

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"I've been messing with the EMGs i got, two 81s and one 85.
81/81 combo is my least fav with both positions somehow sounding almost the same.
81(n)/85(b) is the most balanced sounding, suprisingly the 85(b) didnt add as much low end as i expected it to but it still sounded marginally better than with a 81 in bridge, while the 81 in neck still had its trebley sound coming thru.
the 85(n)/81(b) had the most tonal differences with the 85(n) really pushing all the low end out, and with the right settings it can pull off some decent blues stuff...
both 81 and 85 in the bridge performed just as well, good enough for metal rhythm work and piercing solos.
but the 81 in the neck is a definite no.

dont you just love the plug n play of EMGs

and from all that, i'm thinking a 85/85 combo would be a very good match."
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hi! jz wana ask all these sifus out here
any recommendation on a 5 stringer looking for gud slap tones

been havin trouble after knowing theres so many pickup choices rclxub.gif
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first, what kinda bass do u own ? sx jazz ?
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QUOTE(MoNnY @ May 16 2006, 05:02 PM)
first, what kinda bass do u own ? sx jazz ?
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bought it 2 years ago


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can i put a EMG HZ on my ibanez...?
is it posible...?
and how much would it cost?
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i heard that EMG HZ = EMG 81...
is it true...?
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jameswannabe ... i've heard Proton = Maserati, is it true ?
ok, nvmind... rule of thumb : more expensive product within a same brand = better product.
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EMG 81s are way better than HZ la..
and 81s are active
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EMG 81s are way better than HZ la..
and 81s are active
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EMG 81s are way better than HZ la..
and 81s are active
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i dint know tat there's activ electric guitar pickup!! drool.gif
wow!! how it works?

how the EQ looks like?

any1 hav picture of an activ pickup installed on guitars? drool.gif
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Ummmmmmm...... Active pickups means that it generates so much output, it requires it's own power source in the form of a regular 9V Square Battery. Probably the most famous Active Pick-ups are the ones from EMG..... the EMG81/85 combo is used by most top metal players like Metallica, Trivium and yes..... Zakk Freakin' Wylde. Alot of us forum members have active pickups installed...... I have the EMG-ZW set which is basically an EMG 81 and an EMG 85 sold together as a combo.

I think you're confusing it with an Active Pre-amp pickup that is found on an acoustic guitar.
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QUOTE(crazychris @ May 27 2006, 01:17 PM)
i dint know tat there's activ electric guitar pickup!!  drool.gif 
wow!! how it works?

how the EQ looks like?

any1 hav picture of an activ pickup installed on guitars? drool.gif
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Just an ordinary pickup with a preamp powered by a battery... that's all.

Whether it sounds good, it depends on preference. You either love them and think that they're the bomb or hate them to death. Apparently there isn't a middle ground. tongue.gif No prize guessing which side I'm standing on. icon_rolleyes.gif
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no le.. kirk kh2 got emg 81 on bridge and neck
hahahaha
my friend ahs his signature guitar. the top of the line one...
he says very minimal diff but there is la.. hahaha
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Well, back in the old OLD days, James was using the 81/85 combo........
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QUOTE(led_zep_freak @ May 27 2006, 01:23 PM)
Just an ordinary pickup with a preamp powered by a battery... that's all.

Whether it sounds good, it depends on preference. You either love them and think that they're the bomb or hate them to death. Apparently there isn't a middle ground. tongue.gif No prize guessing which side I'm standing on. icon_rolleyes.gif
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does the activ pickups on elctric guitar cums wit those EQ asif on a bass?
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comes with tone la...
its the same la weh..
u didn't know electric got active ? just cause bass got ?
dude, open the box to your thinking.
u have to imagine.. and thats how u might be able to play bettter also
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QUOTE(MoNnY @ May 28 2006, 08:16 AM)
u have to imagine.. and thats how u might be able to play bettter also
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notworthy.gif the sifu has talked

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but i knew about guitar active pickups, how come i still play like crap ?
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QUOTE(MoNnY @ May 28 2006, 08:16 AM)
u have to imagine.. and thats how u might be able to play bettter also
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Imagine there's no actives,
It's easy if you try,
No shitty tone in songs,
Just beautiful raw sound.

Imagine all the people,
Reaching tonal heaven,
You couuullldddd too...
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QUOTE(led_zep_freak @ May 28 2006, 03:54 PM)
Imagine there's no actives,
It's easy if you try,
No shitty tone in songs,
Just beautiful raw sound.

Imagine all the people,
Reaching tonal heaven,
You couuullldddd too...
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haha sounds so IMAGAINARY tongue.gif

oya hav any1 heard of tribucker by ritter basses?

they actuali hav 3 single coil connect togather which is of cz bigger than a humbucker

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So not emg...
so for ibanez, what do u suggest....
a duncan...
is it any good...
heard from my fwen's esp horizon...
i got goose bumps when it went in e minor...
with an korg multi effects...
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So not emg...
so for ibanez, what do u suggest....
a duncan...
is it any good...
heard from my fwen's esp horizon...
i got goose bumps when it went in e minor...
with an korg multi effects...
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u can't choose pickups by brand la friend...
u should know what u want then only get...
dun decide on brand then the sound it produces.
look around la.. ask people who have emg, duncans, dimarzios...
if u can try their guitar better still.. it may sound different on ur guitar because of action and ur body's wood but at least u get an idea of how it will sound like.
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thanks dude...
i'll remember that....
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huhuhu....answered...huhuhu thumbup.gif

looking foward to change my LP pickup...

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no discussions about piezo PUs?

I was thinking of building a solid bass body with piezo bridge pickups and no onboard electronics. (kind of like the Line 6 Variax minus the Variax)

Then you could theoretically play with contrabass strings...hahahah

Wonder what sound will come out leh? rolleyes.gif
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QUOTE(Bassix @ Jun 6 2006, 04:49 PM)
no discussions about piezo PUs?

I was thinking of building a solid bass body with piezo bridge pickups and no onboard electronics. (kind of like the Line 6 Variax minus the Variax)

Then you could theoretically play with contrabass strings...hahahah

Wonder what sound will come out leh? rolleyes.gif
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build?? where?
how?

u learn to build bass?!!!! notworthy.gif
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build?? where?
how?

u learn to build bass?!!!!  notworthy.gif
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cincai screw some wood together oni la...hahaha
It's just for the sake of experimenting. I want to see how "true" piezos can sound. I am striving towards a contrabass sound on a fretless. With magnetic PUs cannot even come close due to the steel strings. So i wanted to try piezos to see if i can get closer with contrabass strings or not...
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QUOTE(Bassix @ Jun 13 2006, 08:13 PM)
cincai screw some wood together oni la...hahaha
It's just for the sake of experimenting. I want to see how "true" piezos can sound. I am striving towards a contrabass sound on a fretless. With magnetic PUs cannot even come close due to the steel strings. So i wanted to try piezos to see if i can get closer with contrabass strings or not...
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hav u try piezo on ur own guitar?

jz hantam la wahah
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just rewired my pup configurations

now at pos 2-4 the sc and hums are out of phase which gives a really funny quaky countryish/mark knophler(?) sound


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Mark Knopfler... biggrin.gif

Eh, your hums comes with 4 conducter wires right? Didn't you wire it so that you could reverse the polarity with a switch when you installed your pups?
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well i dont know about that....
i think ive already maxed out my options with a push pull and a dpdt...
gonna everything for now and save up for a new amp thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(evo.com @ Jun 14 2006, 04:14 PM)
well i dont know about that....
i think ive already maxed out my options with a push pull and a dpdt...
gonna everything for now and save up for a new amp thumbup.gif
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AMPEG HEAD?? drool.gif
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QUOTE(evo.com @ Jun 14 2006, 04:14 PM)
well i dont know about that....
i think ive already maxed out my options with a push pull and a dpdt...
gonna everything for now and save up for a new amp thumbup.gif
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Oh well, I thought you wire it that way heh.
Perhaps you could install an additional switch like Jimmy Page. tongue.gif
Hey, what about your strat GAS? tongue.gif

QUOTE(crazychris @ Jun 14 2006, 07:41 PM)
AMPEG HEAD?? drool.gif
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I read somewhere that active PUs not only increase the signal output, it also helps to regulate the signal strength.

Referring to bass PUs... When u turn the volume knob down the high freqs (10 kHz) get cut out by the standard fender Precis and Jazzes. But on active basses, the high freqs still come through on low volume. How does an active PU achieve this?

And apparently there are active PUs and passive PUs with active on board preamps.... Whats the difference? Do active PUs use electromagnets instead of permanent magnets? If they use electromagnets then 9V generates a pretty weak magnetic field if i'm not wrong...
Also, whats the difference between 18V system and 9V system? (besides MORE POWER!!!)

soooo manyy quesstionnnsss whistling.gif

*EDIT* missing sentence.... doh.gif

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yea active PUs have a very weak magnetic field, thats what the preamp is for to boost signal.
also basses have active eqs.
active eq eg it adds treble when you turn treble knob, rather than passive which cuts bass instead to make it sounds more trebley.
18v system you get more headroom, the pickup sounds more open etc.

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what am i powering with the 18V? Is it just the preamp circuitry or is it 9V preamp 9V PU? Also, if passive PUs give a strong enough signal at full volume knob, what does the passive PU-active preamp system do?

another thing is, i was actually referring to the volume knob and not tone or EQ. For example; back to guitars...i play a classic standard strat on an all tube amp and i overdrive the tubes. When i turn the volume knob down, i reduce the signal level and thus reducing the OD. So i end up with an almost clean sound....

Now the problem is... if the PUs are not "hot" enough, as some people say, then the PUs sounds flat with a lot of bass and low mids but the hi freqs are cut off (even with full tone knobs)....resulting in a changed signal (for bass it's usually from 10kHz that get cut off)...Apparently something to do with resistance of wires something something bla-.... How do active PUs solve this?


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ok case settled. There is no such thing as an "active" PU. It's just the preamp that makes it "active"
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QUOTE(Bassix @ Jun 27 2006, 04:59 AM)
ok case settled. There is no such thing as an "active" PU. It's just the preamp that makes it "active"
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ok a little explanation.. but this may be wrong.. plz correct me if i am wrong

some technical background.. putting it simple :
coils means inductance .. means phase shitfs - bad to signal.. thats y normally we have a tone control to compensate for the phase shifts.. basicly a simple cicuit with variable capacitor

whether its active PU or passive PU, its still coils and magnet. Electromagnet is oso coils so there is no escape. Since coils is passive component so i guess this made up the statement above?

i believe active PU is introduced to reduce coils; reduce phase shifts and compensation. Coil also contributes some resistance which acts like a load. To put it simple.. it may take part of the signal.. thus reduce output. With active PU introduced, we may only need a scaled down magnet + coils.. then amplify them with active preamp circuits..it should be opamp filter circuits(lowpass filter, bandpass filter, high pass filter ect) this way the circuit can choose which freq range to amplify n which to amplify less.

passive PU on the other hand works like a simple electric generator.. how much u turn the rotor equals how much power generated.. for this case the output is ur signal of course.

another long boring post
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isit true tat passive sound more warm than activs?
wit the tone rolled off all the way it sounds more gentle
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I deleted 13 posts talking about amps.

Let me remind you guys that this is a Guitar/Bass Pickups Thread.
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QUOTE(crazychris @ Jul 1 2006, 02:17 PM)
isit true tat passive sound more warm than activs?
wit the tone rolled off all the way it sounds more gentle
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i don't think so. But correct me if i'm wrong. An active PU can behave like a passive PU as well because of its ability to both cut and boost frequencies.

I have compared a fender precision 1968 to a G&L L-2000 1995 and the g&l can be set to get almost the same sound as the fender by turning the bass boost on and messing around with the 2-band EQ (bear in mind that the preci is using split PUs and the G&L uses double humbuckers). Of course you can't get the same sound since the PUs are different (not to mention the age of the fender). But in terms of warmth of tone, both basses are great.

So for warmth, i think other factors affect it more like the type of wood, amp, speakers blablabla. So in my comparison, i managed to get very smooth warm tones out of both basses (using the same amp of course).
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shouta, your long and not-so-boring post seems to be very logical... thanks for the clear explanation wink.gif
1) could you develop about the phase shifts ? i know that inductance will induce phase shifts, but why is it bad ? IMO, the whole signal is being shifted, so it doesn't produce phase-cancellation. (???)

2) how does the tone control work ? if it's just an inductance, then what's its effect ?

3) << bassix >> about the treble being diminished when the volume knob is turned down : on my guitar (the ibanez), there is a push-pull on the volume knob that, when pulled, will allows the higher frequencies to remain high and clear even when the volume is lowered... i think it uses a different kind of resistance (10k ?).

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Dude...my ibanez needs a new colour...
can u tell me the best shop that can do that...
with the good price also la...
anything just pm me guys...
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was wonderin bout those large-pole pickups n close close-up 1s
wats so different bout the sound? stronger?? meatier???
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looking for gibson burstbucker type 1 and type 2. know anywhere to get them and their prices? if cant get those probably a burstbucker pro

its not urgent since i might be getting a midi controller first...
or hopefully if i manage to save enough(and get another part time job during my hols) and get a nice amp
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I believe I saw some in Wohfatt. Around the 300 to 500 range.
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ive never been to woh fatt.

blacktrix, maybe u can help me find out when u go there this tuesday
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woh fatt in KL kota raya...wen u comin??
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burstbuckers rm500?
i know the tony iommi pickup is already rm400 in woh fatt, so use that as a guide to how much the burstbuckers will be.

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hmm..how about SD SH-4 JB Model?

i'm looking forward to this humbucking pickup.....great jazz and great distortion.....
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Will find out when I go to Woh Fatt...... Just remembered....... might schedule quite packed, so might go on Thursday instead.
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shouta, your long and not-so-boring post seems to be very logical... thanks for the clear explanation wink.gif
1) could you develop about the phase shifts ? i know that inductance will induce phase shifts, but why is it bad ? IMO, the whole signal is being shifted, so it doesn't produce phase-cancellation. (???)

2) how does the tone control work ? if it's just an inductance, then what's its effect ?
ok i am still learning.. plz correct me if i am wrong and i hope u understand this.

This may require some maths (complex notations). resistance, reactance, impedance.
resistance is a real component (R )
reactance is an imaginary component (jX or jwL or j2πf)
impedance is the complex component (Z or R+jX)

phase degree is the angle between the real component, resistance to the complex notations/line, impedance.

π = pi = 3.142
f = frequency
w = 2πf = 2 x 3.142 x frequency; thus the imaginary component, reactance vary accordingly to frequency change.
phase degree vary accordingly to the imaginary component, reactance.

Putting it simple, inductance/coils induce phase shifts based on frequency.

phase shifts will affect signal amplitude, either reduce more or reduce less.. commonly termed as attenuation. Generally it will have sort of a negative line gradient attenuation in the frequency spectrum (juz take a look at an equalizer).. from lowest frequency to highest frequency..
So for a guitar it may sound blunt since the higher freqs are cut off.

The nyquist plot in the following site show it all...
http://www.consultrsr.com/resources/eis/induct1.htm

-Z" is the imaginary component, reactance
Z' is the real component, resistance
the complex notations, impedance,Z are summed all together to form the circular line.

capacitor does the opposite of inductance, induce reactance to the opposite direction of the imaginary axis... +Z" positive. (inductance induce to -Z" negative direction). Therefore capacitace can reduce phase shifts, reduce attenuation and solve this problem. Now the question is what capacitance value should be applied tocompensate for the attenuated signal? that hence the tone control.

The RLC circuit shown may be an example of how a tone control may work. It could be done by varying the resistance value of the resistor parallel to the capacitor.

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I was in Woh Fatt for a while today. Sorry Echo, no burstbucker. They do have 57 classics and some 4xxT or something like that. The Iommi humbucker is RM570 before discount.


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hmm...do u saw seymour duncan SH-4 JB model there?

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Now I'm thinking of getting a Jeff Beck Humbucker for the ol' strat......... probably when I get my amp end of the year.......

Or is there any other humbucker you can recommend that is more edgy but still retains most of the strat's sound?

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i had a JB before in a charvel.
very good for rock/metal, but no way does it retain any part of a strat sound.
perhaps if it was wired for splitting, then the single coil part might do it, tho i never did try.

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Hmmmmmmm cool. cool...... Any other suggestions for a Humbucker in it then? Would want to play some Green Day stuff too..... that's why I wanted a Humbucker init.....
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greenday? thought he uses the duncan invader?
i would guess most decent humbuckers would be able to pull off greenday stuff.
only question would be is the split coil sound good enough for that strat sound.

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Yeah....... Looks like it's going to be split coil config for me..... Anyone knows a reasonablly priced humbucker for me???
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hey guys.. is there any different between humbucker and trembucker?... is it just the size or does it affect the sound?

browsed through seymour duncan's site.. and noticed that there is sh-4 as well as tb-4
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try putting in ur epiphone stock humbuckers in it tongue.gif
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hey guys.. is there any different between humbucker and trembucker?... is it just the size or does it affect the sound?

browsed through seymour duncan's site.. and noticed that there is sh-4 as well as tb-4
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QUOTE(echobrainproject @ Jul 19 2006, 02:14 PM)
try putting in ur epiphone stock humbuckers in it tongue.gif
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haha...then it would be weird.....less strat with hubucking pickup......tele with humbucking still acceptable..... biggrin.gif

wanna ask u guys who replace their pickup before......how do u deal with ur ex-stock pickup? just keep it into drawer?

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QUOTE(Criptonox89 @ Jul 19 2006, 03:09 PM)
haha...then it would be weird.....less strat with hubucking pickup......tele with humbucking still acceptable..... biggrin.gif

wanna ask u guys who replace their pickup before......how do u deal with ur ex-stock pickup? just keep it into drawer?
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take them apart and try to rewire them. Or if you dont want them give them to me tongue.gif
I learning to rewire PUs now... biggrin.gif And i don't want to spoil mine
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I'm thinking of changing my bridge pickup.... having a tough time deciding between a Seymour Duncan SH4 JB Model and a DiMarzio Steve's Special... I'm slightly more inclined towards the Steve's Special though... I wonder if Woh Fatt has them. Other than them any other shops carry DiMarzio's?
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i think bentley are the distributors for both duncan and dimarzio.
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it should be ibanez models, nothing famous... to know the exact reference, check out the website (i'm too lazy, sorry smile.gif )
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Hmmm.... called Bentley, they don't carry DiMarzio's.
And Woh Fatt doesn't have the Steve's Special.
I think the SD JB Model isn't suitable for my guitar coz of the floating trem, the string distance is wider. DiMarzio has F-spaced models to cater for these.
SD's trembucker series are designed to cater for floating trems but the sound doesn't capture my taste.

btw, criptonox... Bentley is selling the JB Model for RM340.

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between normal pickups and F-spaced, with distortion etc i seriously doubt anyone will be able to tell the difference.

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oh...thanks...u tried it out today?

i was just think of asking u to get one more for me.....when i read the following post...u've change ur mind....hahaha

u're planning to solder the sh-4 to ur grx?
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QUOTE(Everdying @ Aug 1 2006, 04:32 PM)
between normal pickups and F-spaced, with distortion etc i seriously doubt anyone will be able to tell the difference.
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You're right i guess... perhaps if u listen carefully, an F spaced will have just slightly better string balance but I doubt most people will be able to notice.

QUOTE(Criptonox89 @ Aug 1 2006, 04:46 PM)
oh...thanks...u tried it out today?

i was just think of asking u to get one more for me.....when i read the following post...u've change ur mind....hahaha

u're planning to solder the sh-4 to ur grx?
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sweat.gif choosing pickups is a tough task... You can't just plug and test and try another till you're happy. Unlike other stuff like amps and effects. I'm only basing my decision on sound clips, descriptions and reading lots of reviews.

I haven't got anything yet leh...
planning to put the Steve's Special into my RG1570 bridge position.

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do u go to youtube to check out some sample?

btw...i'm quite satisfy with sh-4 jb model......hopefully u can find ur real baby soonly.....how about EMG?laugh.gif
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QUOTE(Criptonox89 @ Aug 1 2006, 09:48 PM)
do u go to youtube to check out some sample?

btw...i'm quite satisfy with sh-4 jb model......hopefully u can find ur real baby soonly.....how about EMG?laugh.gif
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i see, so you got your GH4 JB model already. nice to hear that. I kinda like the sound of the JB model too.
EMG? You're talking actives here?
I need a very good, clear and defined clean tone. and the DiMarzio Steve's Special seems to fit the criterea. Now finding it is a problem.

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haha...i still haven't got it yet.....i'm very satisfy with the video recorded in youtube with sh-4 jb model.....hopefully i can get it asap too.....mostly after SPM......damn many exam is coming towards.....still got two more exam before SPM(15nov)...argh...!
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Ok....... I've decided to upgrade all three pickups of my strat instead of just adding in a Humbucker...... decided to go for a SSS combo instead of just one humbucker...... I figured if I wanted a humbucker, I'd use my Les Paul instead.......

any recommendations on a full set?? Remember.... it's kinda of a crappy Strat, but it's the first guitar I bought...... so a bit sentimental. I might as well change the tuners and pickups if I wanted to keep it longer.....

I'm looking to use that mainly to play Hendrix songs and maybe a little EARLY green day.....

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I know pimping your guitar with a set of pickups that cost more than the guitar itself sounds bollocks to you... but it can yield good results. biggrin.gif Provided the guitar has good wood tone and plays well, that is.

So, do consider the Kinman Woodstock/Blues set, BKP Irish Tour/Apache & Lindy Fralin pups. All 3 well-known 'boo-teek' manufacturers, available online only I guess. biggrin.gif
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or you want cheap full sets, mighty mite sells complete pickguard assembly with rail pickups/pots etc for RM400 completely wired up, you just need to attach it to the output jack.
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Will go for Seymores or DiMarzios..... EMGs are just too metal for me!!!!!!
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QUOTE(blacktrix @ Aug 8 2006, 10:27 PM)
Will go for Seymores or DiMarzios..... EMGs are just too metal for me my strat!!!!!!
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Please don't give me a heart attack... corrected for justice. tongue.gif

How about the Fender Texas Specials? thumbup.gif

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eh david gilmour used to use EMG SAs in his strat.
some country fag also used it.
mark knophler also has EMG SAs in one of his custom guitars.

basically the EMG SAs are not metal pickups.

i'm also considering the EMG-T set for my tele.
neuvas has it in his, so must go try his tele one day tongue.gif

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Dave used it mainly because passives were giving him hums due to stage lightings. Since it is now a thing of the past, you won't see him using EMGs anymore.

They may not be metal pickups, but they are sure far from nailing the classic strat tone. tongue.gif
The sweetness of a passive pickup is one thing you metalheads you won't appreciate.
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............ which is why I'm setting up a strat JUST for classic rock!!!!
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Holy Crap . . . it is indeed doable.

Yea, how does that sound???
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QUOTE(blacktrix @ Aug 8 2006, 11:40 PM)
............ which is why I'm setting up a strat JUST for classic rock!!!!
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QUOTE(Everdying @ Aug 8 2006, 11:42 PM)
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I DO like that Gibson Toggle switch though.......

But will probably stick to Seymore Duncans.......

Maybe spend about RM300-400 on the setup....... see first....
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Please don't give me a heart attack... corrected for justice. tongue.gif

How about the Fender Texas Specials? thumbup.gif
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DAMN RIGHT!!!.... Fender texas specials.... or fender noiseless pups
well priced and damn bloody good too

dun know much about those hand wired pups..... but heck... if the company can survive with those price tags... it must be pretty damn good

or go wild and install those gretsch TV Jones(something like that) pups.... be the 1st thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(evo.com @ Aug 10 2006, 04:21 PM)
DAMN RIGHT!!!.... Fender texas specials.... or fender noiseless pups
well priced and damn bloody good too

dun know much about those hand wired pups..... but heck... if the company can survive with those price tags... it must be pretty damn good

or go wild and install those gretsch TV Jones(something like that) pups.... be the 1st thumbup.gif
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Yeah... with BKPs the artist has to pay for the pups, no freebies. And this includes ppl like Steve Stevens, Dan Hawkins and McFly. biggrin.gif
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what pickup suit best with ibanez? i heard people say that dimarzio is the best when it comes to ibanez but lots of artist already using it. vai, satriani, gilbert. so what do you guys think the best alternative for ibanez?

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QUOTE(blur62 @ Aug 18 2006, 10:13 PM)
what pickup suit best with ibanez? i heard people say that dimarzio is the best when it comes to ibanez but lots of artist already using it. vai, satriani, gilbert. so what do you guys think the best alternative for ibanez?
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depends on what type of tone and sound ur looking for...u can try seymour duncan..

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Heck..... you can stick in an EMG and it will still sound good...... if you wanted an EMG sound.........
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QUOTE(Everdying @ Aug 8 2006, 09:51 PM)
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or you want cheap full sets, mighty mite sells complete pickguard assembly with rail pickups/pots etc for RM400 completely wired up, you just need to attach it to the output jack.
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halo, everdying.
i'm interested in these pickup set.
pm me if it's still available. thanks.
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halo, everdying.
i'm interested in these pickup set.
pm me if it's still available. thanks.
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EMG SA? or the pickup set?
EMG SA i was only recommending them.
the pickup set i have to give you a contact in penang who brings mighty mite stuff in.
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lookin for info on EMG 40J n 40P5 's for a pup change

wat differenve is J n P?
n how much do they cost??

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well since you play bass...
i would assume its common knowledge that J stands for jazz, and P for precision tongue.gif
ie. J is the long pickup, P is the stacked side by side pickup.
heck im not a bassist and i know that.

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Hey..... still in market for my new pickups for my Crap-strat.

Decided to go with the standard S-S-S pickups..... maybe change the trem as well..... but that's a whole different story.

Can anyone recommend me a good set? Possibly seymour duncan's. Again, this strat is going to be used mostly for classic rock (think Jimi) and maybe some green day style punk too.
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erm...

i knew wat they stand for...
i assume i was talkin bout difference of the tone n voicin of these 2 pups
sorry if i cz cofusion...cz i was not statin out my question clearli...

i was tinkin sum might try them b4...
n the price?? smile.gif
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the emg website doesnt have soundclips?

as for price, you have to ask bentley cos they bring them in, at a really expensive price.
looking at a price at least RM300-350+ each.

whereas in SG should be about SGD130 each.
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im thinkin of a full set consist of

2x 40J
n a preamp BTQ (i tink..wit bass+mid+treble+balance+volume)
how much wud tat cost?

if according to the official website
tat quoted for 1.6k ?!!
tat wud hav brought me another RBX 5 string...
hmmm
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Hey guys, thinking of getting a Seymour Duncan Alnico Pro II flat pickup set for my crap-strat..... any ideas on the pricing for a set of 3?

Either that or a California 50's SSL-1 set.

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QUOTE(blacktrix @ Sep 3 2006, 07:11 PM)
Hey guys, thinking of getting a Seymour Duncan Alnico Pro II flat pickup set for my crap-strat..... any ideas on the pricing for a set of 3?

Either that or a California 50's SSL-1 set.
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Check this out for a selection of original Fender pickups:
http://aampselectricguitarstore.com/fender...kups/index.html

I bought my DiMarzio D-Sonic from them also.

You can pay via paypal at a rate of 3.5 from reputable sellers. Type "sale" in the customer code (at ur shopping cart) for a limited time promotional discount. I would prefer to ship via USPS EMS, its USD30 quoted by them (IIRC). Faster and better peace of mind than the cheapest option. The downside is this store is a little slow in sending out the stuff. Not exactly the cheapest store u can find around, but at least they ship internationally. But they don't have SD's. Good luck.

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Well, I was hoping to buy and let 'em install it as well.... because I'm going to do a complete overhaul..... new tuners, new trem, and fix things like the electronics.... I might as well buy it from Bentleys and let 'em do everything.

Hmmmmm...... but maybe might go for Fender's Tex Mex Strat set instead......... judging from the price online....... see first lah......
Will also have to see what Bent's have in stock

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i'm thinkin of putting texas special pickups in my tele.
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If anyone is going to Bentleys, PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE check the prices on these pickups please.................

Seymour Duncan Alnico Pro II flat pickup set
California 50's SSL-1 pickup set
Fender Tex Mex Strat Pickup set
Fender Hot "Noiseless" Strat Pickup set
Fender Custom '69 Strat Pickup set
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cant you just call bentley and ask?
thats what i sometimes do.
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QUOTE(blacktrix @ Sep 4 2006, 09:28 PM)
I hate talking to their staff. Twice I called, twice I got snooty answer
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Perhaps you need to ask a little nicer tongue.gif JK JK...
Few times I called I managed to find out what I wanted.
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QUOTE(blacktrix @ Sep 4 2006, 09:28 PM)
I hate talking to their staff. Twice I called, twice I got snooty answer
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true, true...they sounded like they don't feel like answering your queries...u guys know where can i get dimarzio's pickups here in malaysia? i've asked bentley, but they say malaysia dun have any distributor for them...
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QUOTE(asura_86 @ Sep 5 2006, 12:57 AM)
true, true...they sounded like they don't feel like answering your queries...u guys know where can i get dimarzio's pickups here in malaysia? i've asked bentley, but they say malaysia dun have any distributor for them...
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They say don't have coz they don't want you to buy something they don't have. tongue.gif (pun intended)

Anyway, official reseller for DiMarzio in malaysia is La Floresta. Check the shops list for phone numbers and give them a buzz. They don't have everything however.
Woh Fatt also carries a few of them, give them a call.

Best is still buy online IMHO. Can get cheaper than here even with shipping included.

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buy online??

how how?? ebay ke??
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Look around for online stores that ship internationally. Check out the link i posted above. They also sell dimarzio's and ship internationally.
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Hey, have any of you guys heard of GFS pickups?
I read they are good stuff for the money.
Guitarfetish carries them at bargain prices: http://store.guitarfetish.com/pickups.html
heck they cost half as much as dimarzio's and SD's.

EDIT: i emailed them, and yes they ship internationally.

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QUOTE(MetalZone @ Sep 6 2006, 09:50 AM)
Hey, have any of you guys heard of GFS pickups?
I read they are good stuff for the money.
Guitarfetish carries them at bargain prices: http://store.guitarfetish.com/pickups.html
heck they cost half as much as dimarzio's and SD's.

EDIT: i emailed them, and yes they ship internationally.
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yeah REALLY interested in them too

the vintage 59s

maybe if u pooled together we get to save on shipping smile.gif

i've never dealt online b4, so hoping someone will buy a set first and tell me about it!

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QUOTE(dilin @ Sep 11 2006, 06:43 PM)
yeah REALLY  interested in them too

the vintage 59s

maybe if u pooled together we get to save on shipping smile.gif

i've never dealt online b4, so hoping someone will buy a set first and tell me about it!
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don't look at me haha. i already soldered dimarzio's into my RG and i'm broke now.
buying online shouldn't be a problem though if that's what you're worried about. i've bought stuff online before a few times and you should have no problems provided there are people who have good experience with the particular retailer.

blacktrix wants some pups for his strat so if you can convince of to try these pups perhaps u can group buy with him, and hopefully a couple others here?

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yeah i guess.

i could never afford to buy dimarzio's or SDs, so GFS or maybe mighty mite are the best alternatives for me smile.gif

p/s my biggest worry is that my $300++ stuff gets lost in Malaysian Customs!! ohmy.gif

pp/s check this out http://www.mojocaster.com/modules.php?op=m...order=0&thold=0

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QUOTE(Everdying @ Aug 23 2006, 05:04 PM)
EMG SA? or the pickup set?
EMG SA i was only recommending them.
the pickup set i have to give you a contact in penang who brings mighty mite stuff in.
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Hi,

can pm me the mighty mite dealer's contact?

thx a bunch
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As far as I know, guitarfetish do not ship to Malaysia.
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Don't think I'll go for really expensive pickups..... USD 300 is waaaaay too much for pick-ups in my Crap-Strat
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QUOTE(noisetrigger @ Sep 11 2006, 10:00 PM)
As far as I know, guitarfetish do not ship to Malaysia.
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a week back i mailed them:
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Hi

Just wanted to ask if you ship internationally? more specifically, Malaysia.

Thanks!


The reply was:

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Yes we ship worldwide

jay


You can email them again to double check: info@guitarfetish.com

QUOTE(blacktrix @ Sep 11 2006, 10:14 PM)
Don't think I'll go for really expensive pickups..... USD 300 is waaaaay too much for pick-ups in my Crap-Strat
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where did u get the USD300 figure? guitar fetish's pickup prices are a bargain!
a SET of strat pickups cost between $45.95 and $67.95.
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Interesting, because someone from i-bands e-mailed them some time ago and they say they do not ship to Malaysia.

http://www.i-bands.net/forum/viewtopic.php...er=asc&start=15

They were talking about it here. If they changed the policy then it's cool.

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QUOTE(MetalZone @ Sep 11 2006, 10:49 PM)
a week back i mailed them:
The reply was:
You can email them again to double check: info@guitarfetish.com
where did u get the USD300 figure? guitar fetish's pickup prices are a bargain!
a SET of strat pickups cost between $45.95 and $67.95.
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i asked them before, they ship to malaysia via air letter post . eta 10 days.

the most expensive strat pup set is only 67usd, converted here plus shipping only about 350 ringgit i guess.
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Oh. *whew*. I thought it was 300USD......

I wouldn't mind going for the Strat "Texas" Alnico Stagger Pickup Set.....

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^ tell me if and when u've it! thx smile.gif
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i'll be waiting if you're ordering a bulk.... if you do, I'll get the texas pickups.

And what do you want to know about pickups?
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i'll be waiting if you're ordering a bulk.... if you do, I'll get the texas pickups.

And what do you want to know about pickups?
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ok dude, should be around jan next yr, cos i'm going to singapore in the next 2 weeks until jan, won't be playing there i guess sad.gif

u mean this set right? http://store.guitarfetish.com/sttalstpiset.html

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Yeah..... that's the one.... But I'm planning to upgrade in October.... so I'll have to go to Bents and see what they have........

EDIT: Man.... got this off the message board........ RIDICULOUS PRICES!!!!!


Seymour Duncan Alnico Pro II....At RM275 per pick up...Set means u need 3.

California 50's....Rm620 per set

Fender Tex Mex.....RM550

Hot Noiseless...RM690

Custom 69...RM650

WOW..... that's nearly double..... will have to think about it then......
Who else wants to get in on the bulk???

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strat tex-mex ? not the best users' feedback...

i'm trying to install my new pickups... what a freaking mess... i connected my pups in place of the old ones, but two other cables got ripped off their connections in the process and i've no idea to which component I shall connect them back to. And my strat has the craziest wiring around : it doesn't match AT ALL the wiring schematics i found on the Net... i'm lost... biggrin.gif
Any wiring Guru around ?
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Really? In that case I think I'll settle for the Premium Alnico Pickups.
http://store.guitarfetish.com/pralstpiourb.html
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QUOTE(Pix @ Sep 12 2006, 07:21 PM)
strat tex-mex ? not the best users' feedback...

i'm trying to install my new pickups... what a freaking mess... i connected my pups in place of the old ones, but two other cables got ripped off their connections in the process and i've no idea to which component I shall connect them back to. And my strat has the craziest wiring around : it doesn't match AT ALL the wiring schematics i found on the Net... i'm lost... biggrin.gif
Any wiring Guru around ?
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post up your current wiring diagram (meaning what is currently wired or when stock)? maybe evo.com can help... and i'll try to help if i can haha.

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QUOTE(Pix @ Sep 12 2006, 07:21 PM)
strat tex-mex ? not the best users' feedback...

i'm trying to install my new pickups... what a freaking mess... i connected my pups in place of the old ones, but two other cables got ripped off their connections in the process and i've no idea to which component I shall connect them back to. And my strat has the craziest wiring around : it doesn't match AT ALL the wiring schematics i found on the Net... i'm lost... biggrin.gif
Any wiring Guru around ?
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Get a guitar tech to do it for you lol. laugh.gif You mean Fralins didn't include the wiring schematics??? Check out their website? Most of the time boutique companies have different colour coding etc... laugh.gif Good luck.
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Really? In that case I think I'll settle for the Premium Alnico Pickups.
http://store.guitarfetish.com/pralstpiourb.html
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i'm looking at this..

http://yhst-50206111187217.stores.yahoo.ne...repralstpi.html

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Man, that sounds good as well...........
comeon man! Order now so I can just get my damn pickups!!!!!
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QUOTE(blacktrix @ Sep 13 2006, 09:44 AM)
Man, that sounds good as well...........
comeon man! Order now so I can just get my damn pickups!!!!!
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QUOTE(blacktrix @ Sep 13 2006, 01:00 AM)
Well, I'm lack of cash NOW......
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when blacktrix lacks of cash, it just means his bank account is below the 500,000 ringgits threshold. You gotta understand the panic...

I finished my wiring few hours ago. The whole thing is quite different than the normal strat wiring, because the cables that reach the bottom of the pots can actually be put on the bottom of any pot... Once I understood that, I could gather what was where... Well, I wasn't really certain about what I was doing but in the end I was SO impatient, I put everything back, screwed the scratchplate back, found out few screws and other stuff left unused on my desk....
.. and when I plugged my guitar in, I was proudly surprised to find out that ALL the pots and ALL the p-ups were working smile.gif Damn, I'm good !!

First impressions on the sound : much more clarity and dynamics, but I'm not in a guitar-day so not much more to say (Imagine : you slit open the guts of a cow... you won't find yourself hungry for a Big Mac laugh.gif). However it proves that upgrading the pickups is not critical : getting a well-built guitar and a nice amp comes first if you're looking for a good sound. Improving the pick-ups is secondary, it won't drastically improve the sound. (I'm talking about clear and crunch sounds... I guess it is different for heavy metal stuff : higher output pick ups WILL improve the sound)

Ok, that was just a few boring thoughts... smile.gif
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Well.... if I order, it'll be in November or December......
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Just my 2 cents' worth, but maybe you guys can try buying from eBay. I managed to procure my DiMarzios (an X2N & Air Norton) at Around RM510 (incl. shipping!) which would have otherwise cost me RM800-RM900 at Woh Fatt's or La Floresta's. Swee Lee's In Singapore would have cost me around RM800 as well.

Just look up any power-sellers on eBay and check against the conversion rate. One catch though, if you have the pickups shipped into Malaysia, you might get taxed by customs which then wouldn't justify the costs in total. What I did was have my pickups shipped to a relative in Singapore (cos' Singapore FTA with America means such goods usually don't get taxed like in Malaysia) who later passed it to me in person. Tedious process but I saved RM300 that way!

Good luck!
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There's ways round it. Besides, the customs rarely touch small items. Also, specify in the customs declaration as guitar parts (if you just say "DiMarzio Air Norton" the customs might check) and check "gift" or provide a gift certificate. My DiMarzio's never got touched this way.
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Selling Seymour Duncan George Lynch Screamin' Demon, new, for RM399, the price can be NEGOTIATED.. IT IS NEW.. The reason for selling this pickup is that i dont play metal anymore...Call me or Sms me at 013-3425088

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you dont play metal anymore buy got a new pickup tongue.gif

i've tried the screamin demon before, its not as high output as one might imagine.
more suited to rock actually.
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QUOTE(Everdying @ Oct 23 2006, 05:31 AM)
you dont play metal anymore buy got a new pickup tongue.gif

i've tried the screamin demon before, its not as high output as one might imagine.
more suited to rock actually.
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which pickup is more suitable for metal then? rolleyes.gif

ohya, everydying. what is ur pickup height setting for active EMG?
i ever tried to get bridge pickup treble side set to 0.5mm.
love its super overdriven sound, but too bad that when i play around with the floydrose arming, string will eventually touch the pickup... >__<

so, now i have to set it back to 1.5mm as standard minimum setpoint for other passive pickup...

any suggestion?
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QUOTE(akeiser @ Oct 24 2006, 08:49 AM)
which pickup is more suitable for metal then? rolleyes.gif

ohya, everydying. what is ur pickup height setting for active EMG?
i ever tried to get bridge pickup treble side set to 0.5mm.
love its super overdriven sound, but too bad that when i play around with the floydrose arming, string will eventually touch the pickup... >__<

so, now i have to set it back to 1.5mm as standard minimum setpoint for other passive pickup...

any suggestion?
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0.5mm? you must play very very very light.
i put mine at 2mm at the closest.
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0.5mm also too extreme for me also...
but the sound is awesome... =)

anyway, now my bridge pickup height:
treble side 1.5mm
bass side 2.0mm


everdying, i got another question...

for les paul case, they got 2 vol 2 tone,
so no issue on matching bridge and neck pickups volume.

but for my case, 1 vol 1 tone...
(bridge) ceramic EMG 81, (neck) alnico EMG 85, volume r big different...
it's kinda hard to get balance volume between both pickups.

any good idea?
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adjust pickup height properly tongue.gif
set your bridge to how you want it, then lower your neck so the output matches.
my LP and SG i hardly touch the vol or tone controls, so i set it that way also.

btw, there is only one way to prevent the strings touching the pickup when you use the floyd.
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thats why you see those manufacturers who pay attention to detail, actually have a nice plastic ring or black tape around the passive pickups, so when you return back to pitch after diving down...
the string doesnt get caught under the sides of the pickup.

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but i wish to keep my current neck pickup sound...
if lower, i dunno how it will become...

thanks alot anyway...

i think i need to adjust & test more =)
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hi guys,i've got myself and RG2570E for rm2,700.Guess its a good buy since its just 3 months old and the condition is perfect except the 2 scratches behind.The neck plays great,the body feels solid and light,the sustain is good,the pickups are hot and warm.Very flexible guitar.The only thing is the bridge pickup.I think its either its too warm and muddy to get oasis's live overdrive sound in rhythm playing.I'm thinking to replace the bridge pickup any suggestions?I'm also wondering why the mid pickup's output is so low,is there anythin i can do to increase it?I'm hoping to get some fender-ish and les paul-ish tones.Sounds greedy,but i want the most out of my axe!

BTW noistrigger,what pickups are u using on your bridge?

Please advise! Thanks

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Wow....... now you're making me drool. another Prestige owner... congrats!! and its a good price you got there!
the bridge pickup is based a little bit on the Tone Zone if i'm not mistaken... so I suppose you find the mids and the bass a little overwhelming. Guess you might be looking for something cleaner and more balanced. noisetrigger is using a Breed. I'm using a D Sonic.

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QUOTE(MetalZone @ Oct 26 2006, 09:47 PM)
Wow....... now you're making me drool. another Prestige owner... congrats!! and its a good price you got there!
the bridge pickup is based a little bit on the Tone Zone if i'm not mistaken... so I suppose you find the mids and the bass a little overwhelming. Guess you might be looking for something cleaner and more balanced. noisetrigger is using a Breed. I'm using a D Sonic.

and... we demand pics! tongue.gif
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pics later.No camera le.Wats tone zone? yeah the bass and mids are killing me.How does D sonic and Breed differs?any suggestion on pickups to get? how bout boosting the output of the mid pickup? any mod recommendations?

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DiMarzio Tone Zone...
try searching the net for reviews. that will help u decide and look at the dimarzio website to have a rough idea what kind of sound spectrum u are to expect. I can't tell u the difference coz I haven't tried the breed myself. check one of my previous posts in this thread to see what i described about the d sonic, and i think noisetrigger did also.

is the mid pickup really that low output? or are you expecting it to produce the same output as the humbuckers? of course not. it is understood that it will produce less output than the other two pickups. you can increase its output by moving the pickup closer to the strings. but mine isn't close either coz otherwise it'll get in the way of my picking. if u want a stratty sound from ur mid, try a DiMarzio Blue Velvet. your current mid pickup doesn't produce a somewhat stratty sound?

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aha,i've tried out noistrigger's bridge pickup and i loved the way it sound.No,my mid pickup's output is not slightly low compared to the bridge.Its at least 50% lower.It does have "some" stratty sounds there.Maybe i'm more to a stratty guy.
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Your bridge pickup is actually based on the Dimarzio Super Distortion and Steve Special I think.

As for the middle pickup, it is normal for the output to be lower unless of course you change it to SD quarter pounder.

Stock, don't bother matching it to the humbucker. I just match the volume to position 2 and 4.
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Odd that you mentioned Steve Special coz the Steve Special is in no way muddy...

darren where are the pics? tongue.gif
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Opps, not Steve Specials but Steve Morse model. Here is the info I got from Dimarzio website

"DiMarzio®/IBZ pickups
The DiMarzio®/IBZ pickups in the Ibanez RG2120 and RG2570EX are specifically designed and manufactured by DiMarzio® for Ibanez, and they are not available separately. Like all DiMarzio® pickups, they are made in our New York factory. Both neck and bridge pickups are high-output models. The neck pickup is fairly bright-sounding, similar to a Super 2(tm) (DP104). The bridge pickup is a little louder and warmer-sounding, and resembles a cross between the Steve Morse Bridge Model(tm) (DP200) and the Super Distortion® (DP100). The R1 single-coil is warmer-sounding than a typical vintage single-coil, and was designed to work well with the neck and bridge humbuckers when they are in split mode. It has a sound similar to that of the HS-2(tm) in split-coil mode."
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speaking of the ibz.
the ones on the sz series are by seymour duncan rite?
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QUOTE(MetalZone @ Oct 31 2006, 01:23 AM)
Odd that you mentioned Steve Special coz the Steve Special is in no way muddy...

darren where are the pics? tongue.gif
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QUOTE(Everdying @ Oct 31 2006, 07:05 AM)
speaking of the ibz.
the ones on the sz series are by seymour duncan rite?
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Yes, they are by Duncans. Those on the none Prestige SZ are made in Korea, presumebly in the factory of those Duncan Designed. They are based on the 59 and Duncan Distortion.

Those on the Prestige SZ are made in the USA in the same factory as other Duncans. Not sure what they are based on though.


Metalzone, I tested the RG2570 in Bentley before and weirdly enough, I remember the bridge pickup being quite thin and bright.
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Metalzone, I tested the RG2570 in Bentley before and weirdly enough, I remember the bridge pickup being quite thin and bright.
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QUOTE(noisetrigger @ Oct 31 2006, 03:35 PM)
Metalzone, I tested the RG2570 in Bentley before and weirdly enough, I remember the bridge pickup being quite thin and bright.
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QUOTE(MetalZone @ Oct 31 2006, 04:24 PM)
haha thats odd. opposite from what darren said. i've never tested it before thou so i donno how it sounds like.
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Where to get em cheaper than our beloved Bentley....???

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If Ebay maybe can try those ebayer's that sells around RM600++ with shipping...
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how much for a new humbucker ( cheapest ) dun care if cap ayam.. i just dun like single coil.. heheh.. i wan to put it in my HSS guitar.. so it could be HSH

and how to change it from single coil to Humbuck ? need korek first ? rewiring or something ?
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Singapore???Ebay or shop direct???

If Ebay maybe can try those ebayer's that sells around RM600++ with shipping...
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I would suggest buying online. Save the trouble of the customs and thier taxs.

Besides, like what blacktrix said .... not much difference in price.
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at least it looks nice biggrin.gif hehe.. i just liked to see HSH guitar.. looks so geng..

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Has anybody tried the Dimarzio FRED on the bridge? Also, what humbuckers do you guys recommend for the neck - good, thick cleans but yet well defined distortion?
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the cheapest humbucker i'm looking at is the Select series by EMG.
USD23, but the shipping will obviously add on to its price.

apparently its a pretty decent pickup based on user reviews from harmony central.
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can kah put pick up at kapok guitar.n use my altec lensing speaker,not use amp??
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can kah put pick up at kapok guitar.n use my altec lensing speaker,not use amp??
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im looking for a seymour duncan JB humbucker for my bridge, anyone knows the best deal? (indivuduals or shops) or even 2nd hand.?
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I'm really talking out of my @$$ here, but call up Bentley and see how much they charge

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im looking for a seymour duncan JB humbucker for my bridge, anyone knows the best deal? (indivuduals or shops) or even 2nd hand.?
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DiMarzio pickups - http://www.lelong.com.my/Auc/List/2006-12DDutch4444795.htm

Seymour Duncan pickups - http://www.lelong.com.my/Auc/List/2006-12DSale4473257.htm

has anybody tried buying from this guy?
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QUOTE(soulfly @ Dec 22 2006, 04:04 PM)
DiMarzio pickups - http://www.lelong.com.my/Auc/List/2006-12DDutch4444795.htm

Seymour Duncan pickups - http://www.lelong.com.my/Auc/List/2006-12DSale4473257.htm

has anybody tried buying from this guy?
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I might be heading up to Singapore in Jan with some friends....... before The Gathering v2.0..... my friend is interested in buying a S.D Jazz/JB pickup combo for his Les Paul copy........
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blacktrix, can help get a few stuff when u're there? biggrin.gif
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Quickie question, I got an ibanez170dx so umm i wanna use active pickups but i dont see the battery slot. So unh does this mean not all guitars can use active pickups??
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Are you sure there's no compartment? Flip your guitar around and see if there's a plate or something..... Remove the screws and check the cavity
I'm sure you can squeeze in a battery or something.....


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There are slots though i have yet to open them. But i think its only tone/vol knobs slots thingy n the trem springs but no small batt slots. but ill check more later
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QUOTE(CountPuchi @ Jan 1 2007, 04:09 PM)
There are slots though i have yet to open them. But i think its only tone/vol knobs slots thingy n the trem springs but no small batt slots. but ill check more later
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the tone/vol knobs slot usually can fit in the battery/ies. smile.gif
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What Xynobys says..... My battery compartment is together with my tone/vol and output jack compartment.
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^ when i changed the pu on my samick, i also thought that they going to make a new compartment/hole at the back of my guitar.

and just like u blacktrix, the uneducated so-called guitar tech at bentley placed the 81/85 wrongly. and they charged RM100 for installation summore...
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Hahahaha..... so it's a common mistake after all!!!!! Make sure you fire them back nicely next time!!!!
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its not a common mistake if they bother to RTFM.
one is gold, one is silver, what so hard about that? tongue.gif

now my EMG60A and 85 have about the same font color.

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so how long can that 9v battery hold if i play continously for 1 day?
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if you play roughly 2-3hrs a day, the batt can last anywhere from 6-9 months.
provided of cos you use a good brand like duracell and not some stupid brand like national.
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body is basswood. any opinion?
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^ when i changed the pu on my samick, i also thought that they going to make a new compartment/hole at the back of my guitar.

and just like u blacktrix, the uneducated so-called guitar tech at bentley placed the 81/85 wrongly. and they charged RM100 for installation summore...
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place 81/85 wrongly?

both pickups r suitable for both bridge and neck.
it's all depend on ur own choice.
did u tell them what setup u want?
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QUOTE(akeiser @ Jan 2 2007, 03:07 PM)
place 81/85 wrongly?

both pickups r suitable for both bridge and neck.
it's all depend on ur own choice.
did u tell them what setup u want?
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yup. specifically mentioned that i wanted 81 bridge and 85 neck.
had some fun experimenting with the sound before i swapped it myself to my preferred setup.
now looking for 60 for more fun rclxms.gif

can anybody here tell me the different in terms of sound characteristic between dimarzio breed and evolution? hmm.gif

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DiMarzio Breed's characteristics is that it has boosted low and mids as opposed to the Evo which is more well rounded.

The Breed has an EQ chart of 5/9/8
The Evo has an EQ chart of a 6.5/7/6

If you like chunky Power Chords and fat low ends then the breed should be better. But technically it depends on where you put the pickup. Bridge or Neck?

By the way has anyway tried our local DiMarzio Dealer La Floresta?

What you guys think of them.. Honestly?
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Err... where's La Floresta?
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Err... where's La Floresta?
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La Floresta is in Shah Alam and from what I know they are somehow the sole distributor for DiMarzio puppies but the prices there is probably about the same or a bit lesser than Woh Fatt ...about RM400-ish i reckon sweat.gif

You can try gain10music.com instead. It ain't that hard. You won't save much though...a standard humbucker pickup + shipping would cost around RM320-ish.

More money for your Krank Krankenstein fund ok! rclxms.gif


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No 7 string pups =.=

And La Floresta are run by ****************!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

They dare call me up and say no such thing as a D-Sonic Pickup. . . =.=

I was like o.O
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QUOTE(valkyrie1232 @ Feb 16 2007, 08:25 PM)
La Floresta is in Shah Alam and from what I know they are somehow the sole distributor for DiMarzio puppies but the prices there is probably about the same or a bit lesser than Woh Fatt ...about RM400-ish i reckon  sweat.gif

You can try gain10music.com instead. It ain't that hard. You won't save much though...a standard humbucker pickup + shipping would cost around RM320-ish.

More money for your Krank Krankenstein fund ok!  rclxms.gif
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Gee, DiMarzio makes puppies? Does that mean if I get a single-coil DiMarzio, it'll grow up to be an X2N-7? tongue.gif

And screw the Krankenstein, you and I know it's all about the GT into Laney Hardcore Max 4x12 cabinets, ok! rclxms.gif <insert outrageous bass response here>

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I wish pups can grow. . . I don't mind the wait. . . xD

gain10music.com got no D-Sonic 7 and no AirNorton7 =(
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Anybody used Dimarzio's FRED before? Can I have some reviews?
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what should the rough price of gibson burstbucker pro in msia? (no, not woh fatts crazy price).
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if not woh fatt then who else?
i dont recall ever seeing any other shops carrying gibson pickups.
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no i might get a shop to specially bring it in. wanted to know the price first. if they bring in then i cant afford or offers me too high of a price then i wont get it.
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shops in SG apparently dont stock it.

musiciansfriend sells it for USD130, current rate is RM455.
go for it! tongue.gif
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thanks. lets see how things goes.


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i rather go get it from woh fatt and pay about RM50 extra.
shipping with insurance would probably come up to around that, providing it doesnt get taxed by customs.
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echo..im not too sure..my guitar lesson shop there selling it about rm580 before discount(i guess very little)..but its 57 classic..maybe slightly diff...to sum up..u wont get cheap things from gibson...
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Roughly, How much do shop charge to install pickups?
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Usually, it's 50 per pickup..... i've asked around Bents, Guitar Collection and The Guitar Store.......
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I sent my guitar to Tham...changed two humbuckers, even rewired the pickup switch (didnt want the single coil anymore), change strings. RM 70. Good man biggrin.gif .
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Btw does any one knows how much SD Alnico 2 Pro cost here in Msia ? I might want to change my PU cuz Slash uses them tongue.gif
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QUOTE(^Hobbes^ @ Mar 20 2007, 05:31 PM)
Btw does any one knows how much SD Alnico 2 Pro cost here in Msia ? I might want to change my PU cuz Slash uses them tongue.gif
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bents carry them at 380 each
out of stock now i think

lol
biggie slash fan eh?
same here
u shud have bought a plain top cherry sunburst standard
rather than a custom whistling.gif

lol

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I know you may not like it, but to me, that Custom will sound SWEET with EMG Actives inside.....
Either the Zakk Wylde route of a 81/85, or the Hetfield 81/60 combo.....

Either way, EMGs will SCREAM on that bad boy.
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or a 85/60A combo like me tongue.gif
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QUOTE(blacktrix @ Mar 20 2007, 06:51 PM)
I know you may not like it, but to me, that Custom will sound SWEET with EMG Actives inside.....
Either the Zakk Wylde route of a 81/85, or the Hetfield 81/60 combo.....

Either way, EMGs will SCREAM on that bad boy.
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hahaha
active wh0r3s!
passive ftw!!!
haha =p

81's i think would be ok for the bridge
since its very bright

but actives ain't my taste
hehe


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QUOTE(sean392 @ Mar 20 2007, 06:03 PM)
bents carry them at 380 each
out of stock now i think

lol
biggie slash fan eh?
same here
u shud have bought a plain top cherry sunburst standard
rather than a custom whistling.gif

lol
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Ahh thanks, so i'll ask my parents to bring them back for me tongue.gif
Err to be honest, before i bought my Epi, i was sort of reserving that standard for the real deal Gibson, but at the moment since i owned my Epi, i have second thoughts, i might as well get a better tube amp.

QUOTE(blacktrix @ Mar 20 2007, 06:51 PM)
I know you may not like it, but to me, that Custom will sound SWEET with EMG Actives inside.....
Either the Zakk Wylde route of a 81/85, or the Hetfield 81/60 combo.....

Either way, EMGs will SCREAM on that bad boy.
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Heard EMGs before, sound err too ganas for me, dont have the balls to handle them tongue.gif
To my ears they sound more towards metal while Slash sounds more towards classic rock, abit gentle


QUOTE(Everdying @ Mar 20 2007, 06:57 PM)
or a 85/60A combo like me tongue.gif
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Havent heard of that combo personally, perhaps some sound clips please?

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85 is like the 81, almost same output.
but slightly warmer with less pierching highs.

60A is the perfect neck pickup tongue.gif
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Ahh thanks, so i'll ask my parents to bring them back for me tongue.gif
Err to be honest, before i bought my Epi, i was sort of reserving that standard for the real deal Gibson, but at the moment since i owned my Epi, i have second thoughts, i might as well get a better tube amp.
Heard EMGs before, sound err too ganas for me, dont have the balls to handle them tongue.gif
To my ears they sound more towards metal while Slash sounds more towards classic rock, abit gentle
Havent heard of that combo personally, perhaps some sound clips please?
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right on
i'll get myself a cheery plaintop gibby one day
btw
cud u pm me the details of purchasing the epi custom from ishibashi
the price for the axe, insurance and the hardcase

thx bro =]
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QUOTE(sean392 @ Mar 21 2007, 01:05 PM)
right on
i'll get myself a cheery plaintop gibby one day
btw
cud u pm me the details of purchasing the epi custom from ishibashi
the price for the axe, insurance and the hardcase

thx bro =]
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Yeah, i'll buy a Gibby one day, not now tho or at least when my guitar collections could rival either Blacktrix or Everdying tongue.gif

IMO, its better if i post it here rather than via pm, so that those who wish to buy from Ishibashi could refer to this post rclxms.gif

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Those are in Japanese Yen and before Malaysian Custom tax (in my case they taxed me 10%), if you want to convert to Myr click here

Click here if you want to browse Ishibashi's webshop

Note down the type/brand/model no and then email ishibashi to ask for availability, once they confirmed its available, its your call to purchase or not, if you decide to purchase, they'll email you a secure link to enter your credit card details, alternatively you can do a telegraphic transfer (TT) but it attracts an additional charge of about RM20 and its slower to process =)

If you are confuse with Ishibashi's webshop layout, i'll do a print screen for your convenience later tongue.gif

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i assume techra is the guitar case?

im wondering how guitars sent overseas are packed if without hard case.
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QUOTE(Everdying @ Mar 22 2007, 01:46 AM)
i assume techra is the guitar case?

im wondering how guitars sent overseas are packed if without hard case.
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Oh thats simple, they put your guitar into your guitar bag, get a box with at least 3-4 inch of bubble wrap around your guitar

You are correct the techra is the guitar case, but funny tho it isnt on the website any more tongue.gif
I need the case its because i'll be bringing my guitar overseas to where i work, to give my guitar some protection as i am sure those MOFOs wont allow me to bring my guitar onboard
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QUOTE(^Hobbes^ @ Mar 22 2007, 02:00 AM)
Oh thats simple, they put your guitar into your guitar bag, get a box with at least 3-4 inch of bubble wrap around your guitar

You are correct the techra is the guitar case, but funny tho it isnt on the website any more tongue.gif
I need the case its because i'll be bringing my guitar overseas to where i work, to give my guitar some protection as i am sure those MOFOs wont allow me to bring my guitar onboard
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so lets see.
those MOFOS wont let you bring the guitar onboard, so you get a hard case.

yet you dont mind a guitar bag with 3-4 inch bubble wrap to protect it in cargo?
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QUOTE(^Hobbes^ @ Mar 22 2007, 01:42 AM)
Yeah, i'll buy a Gibby one day, not now tho or at least when my guitar collections could rival either Blacktrix or Everdying tongue.gif

IMO, its better if i post it here rather than via pm, so that those who wish to buy from Ishibashi could refer to this post  rclxms.gif

» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «


Those are in Japanese Yen and before Malaysian Custom tax (in my case they taxed me 10%), if you want to convert to Myr click here

Click here if you want to browse Ishibashi's webshop

Note down the type/brand/model no and then email ishibashi to ask for availability, once they confirmed its available, its your call to purchase or not, if you decide to purchase, they'll email you a secure link to enter your credit card details, alternatively you can do a telegraphic transfer (TT) but it attracts an additional charge of about RM20 and its slower to process =)

If you are confuse with Ishibashi's webshop layout, i'll do a print screen for your convenience later tongue.gif
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Thanks a lot for posting this. Clears a lot of confusion.

But I have a question. According to this page an LP Custom costs 47775, how come your's is 71250?
Edit: Nevermind, my mistake...your's is the Japan-made LQ instead of the normal one.

BTW, there's a thread on ishibashi on jamtank

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QUOTE(Everdying @ Mar 22 2007, 02:01 AM)
so lets see.
those MOFOS wont let you bring the guitar onboard, so you get a hard case.

yet you dont mind a guitar bag with 3-4 inch bubble wrap to protect it in cargo?
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Nah, mine came with hardcase, when i bought them from Ishibashi, they put my guitar into the hardcase instead of the gig bag with 3-4inch of bubble wrap all around it.
When i go oversea, i'll do the same as well, imo quite good protection
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Please transfer your conversations about guitars on the Guitar Phreaks thread.......
Keep this to the Pickups topic ONLY.......
First Warning.....
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any DiMarzio users here? all i see around here are usually Duncans and EMG's. . . would like to know if anyone ever tried the D-Sonic on the 6
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Does anybody know how much a Seymour Duncan LW-HMET livewire metal in White or a Duncan Distortion in White pickup would cost?
Don't mind heading down to Singapore for that also.....

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Does anybody know how much a Seymour Duncan LW-HMET livewire metal in White or a Duncan Distortion in White pickup would cost?
Don't mind heading down to Singapore for that also.....
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i will get it for you for RM500 tongue.gif

but i think it will take 2-3 weeks ?

interested ? pm me your hp number and location..but shouldn't be a problem lar..
i am from pj smile.gif

dont trust me ? On Friday i will pass sean392 his Seymour Duncan JB ..you can ask him about me by that time nod.gif

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Hmmmmmm.... Will have to think about it.
Even if I do want it, I'll buy it in May..... no cash at the moment.....
Just spent April's payday on a new guitar already..... which is why I need to upgrade the pickups
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this is the part where i say, do a search.

anyway SD livewire, classic or metal, brand new price is SGD125 each at davis.
so the set will be double that, SGD250.

i know there was one set at davis during the slayer show last yr tongue.gif


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Ya ya. I know.
But I'm doing some MAJOR overhauls to the price sections.......
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just take note that HMET set is 18V.
the mustaine set is 9V, and its bridge emulates the SD JB, but no white set.

the livewire metal bridge in the HMET set has no usable clean sounds.
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Yeah, I kinda need it in white........
How about the Duncan Distortion? It's going into a Strat mind you.......
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how bout trying a duncan custom custom ?

btw any good places to solder pickups?
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QUOTE(Equilibrium777 @ Mar 22 2007, 03:59 PM)
any DiMarzio users here? all i see around here are usually Duncans and EMG's. . . would like to know if anyone ever tried the D-Sonic on the 6
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D Sonic on bridge and Air Norton on neck in my RG.
We have discussed dimarzio pickups somewhere back in this thread and in this http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/161705/+1360

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Just wondering Metal Zone, where did you get your pups? locally or you imported in?

Which direction did you put the pole piece of your D-Sonic? And did you try the other side? Getting mine in June when my mate coems back from the states. . .


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QUOTE(Equilibrium777 @ Mar 30 2007, 03:17 PM)
Just wondering Metal Zone, where did you get your pups? locally or you imported in?

Which direction did you put the pole piece of your D-Sonic? And did you try the other side? Getting mine in June when my mate coems back from the states. . .
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i put mine: pole pieces towards the neck, bar towards bridge. this direction supposed to have more clarity and definition (which is what I was looking for). the other direction i didn't try, as it's supposed to be warmer and more bassy.

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how much did it cost? and wat site you use? i tried ebay but they dont ship it in here lolz. . .

and what RG are you using if you dont mind me asking? the one with or wihtout the pickguard? also is there any mike prob? i read alot of sites the D-Sonic had a microphonic prob or something like dat forgotten. .
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I bought from here... http://www.aampselectricguitarstore.com/dimarzio/index.html
but wow i just realised, their new policy is they wont ship dimarzio's internationally now.

i'm using an RG1570 (pics). no pickguard, direct mounted (no pickup rings).
I didn't know that.... I had no microphonic probs. Where did u read that?

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well i read it at a few pup sites. . . and i think at sevenstring.org also. . . and a few online retail sites. . . anyway yea i think you got lucky cause they said international shipping would kill the local distributors. . . so no more. . . =(

and very very nice guitar =D wanted to get that too but no $$ lolz. . . it matches with my 7 xD
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I never play guitar before,but i interested with it,so is there any online tutuorial for playing guitar? biggrin.gif
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Hi there.
I'm glad you have an interest in guitars.... but I'm afraid this is the wrong place to post your question.
You may post it here instead:

http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/427462/+540

Thanks and welcome again.
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QUOTE(Equilibrium777 @ Mar 31 2007, 04:17 AM)
well i read it at a few pup sites. . . and i think at sevenstring.org also. . . and a few online retail sites. . . anyway yea i think you got lucky cause they said international shipping would kill the local distributors. . . so no more. . . =(
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thing is... our local distro's suck (la floresta). overpriced, and they sometimes don't bother to carry what you want. the other retailer is woh fatt, which also has limited choices, but maybe you can specifically order?
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haha yea tell me about it. . . i called them up and they argued with me there is no such thing as a D-Sonic Pup. . . =.= i was like o.O? wha?

woh fat also nvr get back to me. . . i tried Sg,gain10,and the jap site. . . it seems that dimarzio is really serious about the distrib thing. . . if the local dist finds out then they get into trouble and stuff like that. . . =( ayone going outstation? lolz
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QUOTE(Equilibrium777 @ Apr 1 2007, 12:43 AM)
haha yea tell me about it. . . i called them up and they argued with me there is no such thing as a D-Sonic Pup. . . =.= i was like o.O? wha?

woh fat also nvr get back to me. . . i tried Sg,gain10,and the jap site. . . it seems that dimarzio is really serious about the distrib thing. . . if the local dist finds out then they get into trouble and stuff like that. . . =( ayone going outstation? lolz
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mail dimarzio and tell them bout our distributor ph34r.gif

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well i mailed them a few times and didn't get a reply. . .

then i tried calling them at 5 am here and they said that the dude was out for some reason or whatnot so i have to call another day. . .

cause you can actually talk to a tech there and he can recommend you what pups to go with what guitars and stuff. . . the 7 string tech wasn't around so i had to call back another day and it costed me liek RM 15 just for like a few mins. . . damn expensive. . . =.=

if i wan sabo our distrib i need people power!!! let us all rally and bring em down!!! xD
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thats odd... i thought i heard from ppl they respond to customer enquiries well... (yeah apparently u can call their tech and discuss recommendations etc)
um perhaps only one side of the story.
but i think u really should report how lousy our local distro is.
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well , i was chatting with the owner of guitar store the other day...

according to him..

the reason why Dimarzios , Gibsons , Fender Japan ? ,etc are so expensive ..

is because of the Malaysian Mentality . Always thinking about themselves
Bargaining like crazy , Buy also go singapore buy , Always "i want the cheapest" price attitude ..
its been happening for a long time...

and what happened ? Guitar Store , LA floresta , Woh Fatt ? they are not making any money for years ..

he says ..in the end..the consumer are the ones that lose out..
If the local distributor isn't making money , they only gears we will be seeing in Malaysia are Gios , Yamaha, MIC epiphone ...cheap gears that can sell..
they wouldn't take the RISK to bring in products that may not sell..

this few years , Bentley tried bringing in Musicman , Guild , Gretch ..and i think the result is very discouraging..and now Electro Harmonix i heard ?


If they put a low price on dimarzios , the consumers are still going to bargain . that will be worse . so they rather remain overpriced with 10% discount .

i don't really agree with him . but well , i have the Malaysian Mentality . it doesn't affect me . i got a sis in U.S ..so me getting gears not really a problem..

In fact , i kinda love the Overpriced Malaysia . You have any idea how you can make a living . by buying and selling used Musical instruments ? smile.gif our resale value in Malaysia is quite high , compare to Japan and U.S ...i have seen ESP custom shop strat in ebay going for 600 USD and nobody biding for it tongue.gif

so what you guys think ?
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We're educated consumers, if we don't think for ourselves, who are we supposed to think for lol? And what's the bull with Malaysian mentality anyway?! If Bentley starts to sell stuff at a much cheaper price than Singapore's, I'm sure Singaporeans would flock to KL and buy from them! Singaporean mentality, anybody? tongue.gif

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it has nothing to do with malaysian mentality, and of cos everything to do with prices.
as a buyer, you should already know what they're suppose to sell for.

you think ppl would want to waste their time to go down SG? or even order from overseas and then maybe have the hassle of going thru customs?

none of this would happen if shops here actually try to match prices.

consumers still wont lose out anyway, as the options mentioned above are still available to them.
it is the music stores that are losing out.
no customers = no business.

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yes. . . if the cost of going down SG and buying it would be more exp then getting it here then ppl wouldn't bother going down sg, but to me, if it's like 100 or 200 more exp then i rather get it here cause if anything were to happen you can go back to the shop to get it done.

and honestly i think bentley is not really overpriced. . . yes they are overpriced but not to the extent of bloodsucking if you actually ask for a disc. . . it would most prob cost like maybe 100 to 300 more then if orderin outstation, but dont forget customs tax,etc etc so in the end it adds up. . . it depends on how you look at it. . .

their duncans are going really cheap, they tried selling me a duncan 7 string pup for a really good price. . . can't remember but as duncans are not famous for their 7 pups so i didn't get them. . . i still think bentley is ok and so is woh fatt and all the others. . . well this is also because i can never afford to go overseas to get gears so yea. .
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Hmmmmm. Maybe I'll get a Duncan Distortion from Singapore on the way back from Singapore.
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how much is the duncan dist? have you tried asking bentley? cause i really think they are letting go their pups cheap cause not many ppl are buying em. . .
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well bent's have been reasonable with their duncan prices IMHO.
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yea even the EMG's. . . all their pups there are considerably priced. . . and actually cheaper if you exclude the shipping. . . but if you were to ask them to bring 1 in then they will most prob charge you extra
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i wouldnt say their duncans are reasonably priced.
as anyone whos been to SG knows, duncans are SGD99 / RM230 there.

as mentioned before, even the SD livewire is SGD125, over here bentley sells it for RM450.

prices for EMGs tho are sorta ok, as in SG they are SGD135 / RM310, but then that is regardless of what model it is.
over here, it is stupidly priced anywhere from RM380 to RM450 i think, depending on the model.
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And besides, it's not like I'm going down to Singapore JUST for the pickups..... I mean, since I'm there, I might as well pick one up.

Will check out Bents prices anyway and see how much they are letting go of their Duncan Distortions.......
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trix: when u're at Bents, can u check out the price for SD TB-4 as well? if they have it la.
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well you have a point, unless you're already on your way there then the extra RM50-70 could be the travelling fees to go down to get the thing. . .

and since bent's usually give 10% off so i guess the diff is just around RM50. . .
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True. But right now, am thinking of DiMarzios tongue.gif
Since I can't get 'em easily in KL.....

I'm looking for a high-output, Passive, Humbucker, that has an Agathis Body and a Maple neck.......
Used mostly for Metal and Punk Rock.

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QUOTE(blacktrix @ Apr 2 2007, 11:11 AM)
True. But right now, am thinking of DiMarzios tongue.gif
Since I can't get 'em easily in KL.....

I'm looking for a high-output, Passive, Humbucker, that has an Agathis Body and a Maple neck.......
Used mostly for Metal and Punk Rock.
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confusing post.
thought you wanted a humbucker only? or is it now a guitar with those woods and that humbucker? tongue.gif
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Whoops. I mean FOR an Agathis body with Maple neck.

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well try out the X2N it's their highest output pup. . . it's bleeding clear. . . i mean i swear i have 2 friends with em. . . and that pup really shows the potential of the gutiar. . . the pup is clear and powerfull. . . i'm assuming your guitar is maple bolt on right? put in the bridge it will sound bright and it has very good highs. . .

if you looking for a screamer tone, try Humbucker From Hell. . . it's medium output but the tone is good. . . i'm using one, it's clear and brigtht. . . one thing bad is that it really exposes one's playing. . as it is very clear so if you don't pick clean it shows. . . it makes you a better player tho =D

Super Dist if you like the classic sound. . .

D-Sonic if you like sonic versatilty. . .

this pup for bridge or neck?
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Bridge...... and the key thing.....
Has to be in white.....

Looking at the X2N.... Sounds tempting..... But it's a Passive???
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how bout a EMG81 in white? tongue.gif
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owh you can buy the pup covers so no probs laugh.gif you can but it in orange or red if you wanted laugh.gif

anyway yes it's passive and has bloody high output. . . it really shows the guitar you're using. . . my firend has it on his vai Jr. . . and the clean is just amazing. . . clear bright crisp sound with a touch of twang. . . hit the OD and it screams laugh.gif

but the magnet pull is a prob so you need someone good to fix the pup or it'll screw the intonation =D

and get push pull's the pup has a fender twang to it lolz
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Oooooooooooh. sounds tempting.....

But do they REALLY sell an EMG-81 in white??? But damn..... Needs to be passive. No Battery compartment.

Wouldn't mind an EMG-Hz in White though......
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well, the EMG site states its available in black, white or ivory, like the others.

and of cos you got space for the battery.

a strat compartment is so big, just stick it under the pickguard somewhere like what everyone else does.
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yea you can order the EMG's in various colours. . . your guitar is a strat copy? i've seen someone using EMG's that had an external batt holder. . . maybe you can try tat


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Errrrrrm..... I don't think it would fit in the pick guard..... it's.... special.

And if I want it white..... I have to order in..... sigh.............
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QUOTE(Equilibrium777 @ Apr 2 2007, 11:24 AM)
well try out the X2N it's their highest output pup. . . it's bleeding clear. . . i mean i swear i have 2 friends with em. . . and that pup really shows the potential of the gutiar. . . the pup is clear and powerfull. . . i'm assuming your guitar is maple bolt on right? put in the bridge it will sound bright and it has very good highs. . .
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Just a question... any idea how it sounds like in a basswood body? with a 5-piece maple/wenge neck? (ehem!) wink.gif tongue.gif

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QUOTE(Everdying @ Apr 1 2007, 05:20 PM)
it has nothing to do with malaysian mentality, and of cos everything to do with prices.
as a buyer, you should already know what they're suppose to sell for.

you think ppl would want to waste their time to go down SG? or even order from overseas and then maybe have the hassle of going thru customs?

none of this would happen if shops here actually try to match prices.

consumers still wont lose out anyway, as the options mentioned above are still available to them.
it is the music stores that are losing out.
no customers = no business.
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lol yeah thats true .

why don't we make a thread , or a long post .

which brands you think its OK to buy in Malaysia and which we should never touch ..

i will start ..

GO FOR IT!:
Ibanez
Roland / BOSS
EMG


DON'T :
LTD / ESP
PRS
GIBSON
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MUSICMAN

anybody have an opinion on Fenders , Cort , Epiphone , Yamaha , EHX , MXR , behringer , line6 , Gretch , ZOOM , tech21 ,jacksons ?
feel free to add smile.gif

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QUOTE(RustReaver4D1 @ Apr 2 2007, 02:58 PM)
Just a question... any idea how it sounds like in a basswood body? with a 5-piece maple/wenge neck? (ehem!)  wink.gif  tongue.gif
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haha i know where this is going. . . go 7string.org on this. . . they have already talked about it extensively. . . if you're into power and clarity then get it. . . it's amazing. . . but for me i rather get the D-Sonic for sound versatility and the best neck pup for any 7 string is still the big debate between Air Norton7 and Breed. . .


QUOTE(gapnap @ Apr 2 2007, 03:05 PM)
lol yeah thats true . 

why don't we make a thread , or a long post .

which brands you think its OK to buy in Malaysia and which we should never touch ..

i will start ..

GO FOR IT!:
Ibanez
Roland / BOSS
EMG
DON'T :
LTD / ESP
PRS
GIBSON
DIMARZIO
MUSICMAN

anybody have an opinion on Fenders , Cort , Epiphone , Yamaha , EHX , MXR , behringer , line6 , Gretch , ZOOM , tech21 ,jacksons ?
feel free to add  smile.gif
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i think this is quite misleading tho. . . those gears are good quality brands only thing it's overpriced but still some people would still pay. . . i guess it depends. . .
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QUOTE(Equilibrium777 @ Apr 2 2007, 10:11 PM)
haha i know where this is going. . . go 7string.org on this. . . they have already talked about it extensively. . . if you're into power and clarity then get it. . . it's amazing. . . but for me i rather get the D-Sonic for sound versatility and the best neck pup for any 7 string is still the big debate between Air Norton7 and Breed. . .
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Yeah, I scanned through sevenstring... I'm kinda looking for something that would be close to the EMG81 in terms of output and tone (or lack of it! laugh.gif ).

Seems like the EVO7 is tonally closer to the EMG81, but the X2N-7 is closer in terms of output. And funnily enough, they all said that the X2N-7 sounds more "natural" than the 81... lol... guess anything sounds natural compared to the 81... tongue.gif

<sigh> not sure if gain10 can source the X2N-7 though... sad.gif

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Ummmmm.... this is about pickups..... NOT about why Malaysia overcharges their stuff.

If you want to complain, do so in our Spam thread....

Again....... ONLY ABOUT PICKUPS!
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QUOTE(blacktrix @ Apr 3 2007, 01:07 PM)
Ummmmm.... this is about pickups..... NOT about why Malaysia overcharges their stuff.

If you want to complain, do so in our Spam thread....

Again....... ONLY ABOUT PICKUPS!
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Malaysia Overcharges their pickups ..is also related to pickups wurt tongue.gif
we are just comparing pickups prices here and other countries nod.gif
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QUOTE(RustReaver4D1 @ Apr 3 2007, 10:56 AM)
Yeah, I scanned through sevenstring... I'm kinda looking for something that would be close to the EMG81 in terms of output and tone (or lack of it!  laugh.gif ).

Seems like the EVO7 is tonally closer to the EMG81, but the X2N-7 is closer in terms of output. And funnily enough, they all said that the X2N-7 sounds more "natural" than the 81... lol... guess anything sounds natural compared to the 81...  tongue.gif

<sigh> not sure if gain10 can source the X2N-7 though...  sad.gif
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you do know they have a 7-string version for EMG right?
should be pretty similar to the EMG85, ie. slightly warmer with less shrill highs than the 81.
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you do know they have a 7-string version for EMG right?
should be pretty similar to the EMG85, ie. slightly warmer with less shrill highs than the 81.
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Yeah, the EMG707 which is supposedly very similar to the EMG85 and the EMG81-7, which is the 7-string equivalent of the EMG81.

I'm a die-hard EMG fan (FTW!) but I'll need to do some re-routing etc. to fit EMGs into my guitar... and I'm not too keen on that. tongue.gif

Hence, my quest for DiMarzios! biggrin.gif
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what re-routing is needed?

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actually no rerouting is needed. . . so shouldn't be a prob for the EMG's if you really want. . .

BUT! since i'm a DiMarzio Supporter i say GO TONE! lolz. . . but for 7 string's DiMarzio has the best versatility =D
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QUOTE(Equilibrium777 @ Apr 3 2007, 10:38 PM)
actually no rerouting is needed. . . so shouldn't be a prob for the EMG's if you really want. . .

BUT! since i'm a DiMarzio Supporter i say GO TONE! lolz. . . but for 7 string's DiMarzio has the best versatility =D
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Really no rerouting required? Ok... maybe it has something to do with the size of the EMGs? I remember reading that some body work is required to install EMGs in the 1527... hmm.gif

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it depends on how pro the guy in can do it lar. . . definately wiring got changes. . . the only prob is the battery compartment. . . it seems that there is a way to hide it. . . not sure how. . . but yea. . . if the guy is pro enough then he can do it without changing your guitar. . .

but ive also seen some that says that changes needed to be done cause the pup cant fit . . . you gotta ask bentley on this but when i asked before they said no probs
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QUOTE(Equilibrium777 @ Apr 4 2007, 07:37 PM)
but ive also seen some that says that changes needed to be done cause the pup cant fit . . . you gotta ask bentley on this but when i asked before they said no probs
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i c i c...

Thing is, I also like the fact that EMGs are bloody quiet pups when you don't play - I can really crank up the gain on my GT-8 and not worry so much about feedback when I don't play. I'm a bit worried that the X2N-7 may not be as quiet... unsure.gif

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Hey Eq777, I'm a Dimarzio Whore too!

Currently using Steve's Special and PAF Pro. As 7 string pickups, which is good for tight and clear rhythm on the bridge as well as singing leads for neck?

I think I'm pretty much leaned towards the Evo 7 for bridge but a bit clueless for the neck side though.
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anyone tried the bare knuckle nailbomb humbucker??? i've listened to the demo and the tone iz ace!! too bad there's no dealer in Malaysia sad.gif
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If there is a Bare Knuckle dealer, I'd buy an Epi LP JUST to install those pickups.

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aihz bkp pickups are really cool
but they're also really expensive ><ll

love the warpigs with the distressed cover!
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If I can afford BKP, I can afford another guitar to install them into.....
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aww... i wuz hoping there's a BKP dealer in malaysia!!! anywayz any of u tell me how the ROLAND GK2 GUITAR SYNTH PICKUP works??? i'm curious...
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QUOTE(jackson_asdf @ Apr 12 2007, 01:38 PM)
aww... i wuz hoping there's a BKP dealer in malaysia!!! anywayz any of u tell me how the ROLAND GK2 GUITAR SYNTH PICKUP works??? i'm curious...
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You can always order online, their pickups are made to order so you could specify any changes or modifications. The shipping itself isn't too pricey and I doubt the local customs would impose a sales tax on a pickup. biggrin.gif
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the problem iz i dun have a credit card yet... *sniff sniff... gonna get one when i'm off to oz... still a long way to go... btw any alternative to the BK nailbomb humbucker?

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There's a Prepaid one from Ambank, which you could get in most 7-11 outlets. laugh.gif laugh.gif

If you wanna know which model suits you the best, you should send an email to them. wink.gif
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the pup doesnt work on its own. . .

you need the GR20 or another MIDI compatible device. . .

GT-8.and those others work with it too. . .

it's pointless if you dont have a COSM / MIDI device to utilize the pup. .
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what's the price+ installation for fender telecaster vintage pickup..?
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which pup? there are a few. . .

installation is around RM50 i think per pup
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bought this. will install tomorrow.
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nice =D congratz!!

going on your LP?

how much they charged you?
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yea on my LP. got it together with other stuff to fix my guitar(tuners, etc) with a total of 500.
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Congratz =)

Btw does the PUs comes in a pair, i mean 500 bucks for one or a pair?
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when you gonna change the other one? xD
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QUOTE(^Hobbes^ @ Apr 14 2007, 12:31 PM)
Congratz =)

Btw does the PUs comes in a pair, i mean 500 bucks for one or a pair?
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500 for one
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QUOTE(Equilibrium777 @ Apr 13 2007, 09:28 PM)
which pup? there are a few. . .

installation is around RM50 i think per pup
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it's the pickup standard fender telecaster use..
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changing just one. no money to change the other. 500 in total coz i bought alot of other stuff to repair my guitar. read the guitar phreaks thread. its listed at 530 just for the pickup but if u calculate mine should be around rm460+.
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well there are quite a few brands and models out there. . . look around for it. .. do you want a classic tele twang or someting more modern and heavy?
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QUOTE(Equilibrium777 @ Apr 15 2007, 12:38 AM)
well there are quite a few brands and models out there. . . look around for it. .. do you want a classic tele twang or someting more modern and heavy?
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i want an original fender telecaster pickup used in standard/american telecaster one..
i'm KL outsider so got no time to look around ler.. blush.gif
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if thats the case you can try the Fender Tele pups that bentley sell. . . or you can try the Duncan replacements. . .

Dont go for the modern pups. . .go for the traditional vintage output ones. . .

no able DiMarzio dealer here so can't get the Twang King. . . lolz

that is one of the best Tele replacement pup. . .
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QUOTE(Equilibrium777 @ Apr 15 2007, 12:32 PM)
if thats the case you can try the Fender Tele pups that bentley sell. . . or you can try the Duncan replacements. . .

Dont go for the modern pups. . .go for the traditional vintage output ones. . .

no able DiMarzio dealer here so can't get the Twang King. . . lolz

that is one of the best Tele replacement pup. . .
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ya...that's exactly waht i want..
do u know the price+installation @ bentley...?
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installation for pickup is 50 at bents per pickup
as for the price of the pickup itself i have no idea
maybe other forummers can point you in the right direction. =)
good luck my friend
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QUOTE(Equilibrium777 @ Apr 15 2007, 12:32 PM)
if thats the case you can try the Fender Tele pups that bentley sell. . . or you can try the Duncan replacements. . .

Dont go for the modern pups. . .go for the traditional vintage output ones. . .

no able DiMarzio dealer here so can't get the Twang King. . . lolz

that is one of the best Tele replacement pup. . .
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JS is now the official distributor for dimarzio. just went there and there was a huge collection of pickups and theres also a huge section on the wall with dimarzio accessories, pickup holder, screws, even those pickup covers etc.

oh, just drop by and get ur free dimarzio catalogue
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QUOTE(echobrainproject @ Apr 15 2007, 05:01 PM)
JS is now the official distributor for dimarzio. just went there and there was a huge collection of pickups and theres also a huge section on the wall with dimarzio accessories, pickup holder, screws, even those pickup covers etc.

oh, just drop by and get ur free dimarzio catalogue
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Cool! wanna check out the Paf Joe...
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anyone recommend me any humbucker-sized p-90 dat iz available in Malaysia??? i tried p-90s and i love them 'cause they give more expression to the music...
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ya. . . heard from val and rust about it too =D

imma gonna head down soon and check it out =)
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QUOTE(Equilibrium777 @ Apr 16 2007, 12:47 AM)
ya. . . heard from val and rust about it too =D

imma gonna head down soon and check it out =)
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RM425 retail price for the D-sonic7... not sure how much of a discount you can get though... smile.gif

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going down this weekend i guess. . . low on cash now. . . spent on my EV-5 and my headphones =.=
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i think this is the right thread for me to ask these question. Here goes:

I own an SX LP Copy blush.gif . It's a set neck version (i know, i know, it's still a cheapo LP smile.gif ). My burning question is, is it worth it to change the humbuckers? Would it bring significance difference?

if yes then i think i wanna get the Slash combo. I read from SD website he uses SD APH-1 Alnico II humbuckers (neck n bridge). On the other hand i do love the Megadeth metal sound. Mustaine uses SH-2 for neck n SH-4 for bridge. Is there any way i can combine alnico n say SH-4 for my git? i'm a big fan of gnr n megadeth. I don't think i wanna get any other guitar at this moment (my other half only limit me to one git...forever cry.gif cry.gif ...but if i change the pups she would have absolutely no idea about it brows.gif ). so i can't have 1 git having slash set up n the other having mustaine set up. or, if i get the slash combo for GNR orientated songs and use my Zoom G2.1U to get that metal sound.

I've made my initial calculation. With the average of rm380 per pup, installation, guitar reworking/tweeking it wud add up to RM1K. i saw one add in leleong, i think the guy's nick is munkee. he sells pickups n do servicing as well. any idea about this guy? or is he in this forum shocking.gif ...anyway, is 1K worth all the fuss? my SX was only around 700 tongue.gif .
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Raja Utara.... Mustaine rarely use his neck pickup... he uses bridge pickup most of the time. You can try SH-4 for the bridge, and Alnico II on the neck (Slash's solo).

But then again... Mustaine doesn't use an LP tongue.gif
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since its a LP guitar with 2 vol and 2 tone controls.
you can match pickups anyhow you like.
mustaine USED to use the SH2 SH4 combo, now hes using active versions of it based on the SD livewire.
anyway that SH2 SH4 set should also be able to get the slash sound without any probs.
btw, munkee is a reseller.

just FYI, SD pickups are about SGD99 each in singapore.
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SD Livewire Dave Mustaine Signature Series to be precise biggrin.gif
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i was thinking of getting the SD livewire mustaine set even tho i dont like mustaine much (cos hes a delusional frontman like axl).
but now since SD has released a new active pickup set, the Blackouts.
so im gonna go get that instead now tongue.gif
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And don't forget.... both Slash and Mustaine both have VERY different tones.
Slash goes for more tone rather then gain, while Mustaine is all about Gain Gain Gain.....

Slash has a very warm, close to the Les Paul type tone with medium output. The Mustaine livewire (or even the new Blackout) is almost more towards EMG Actives territory.

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umm, he didnt say anything about the mustaine livewire, i did tongue.gif
actually hes thinking of getting the SH2 SH4, ie. mustaine's old setup.
SH2 - jazz, SH4 - jb.
so yes, that old set can pull off slash stuff with no prob.
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Oh. Whoops. Me and my caffeine fueled brain....

Yeah.. the classic JB/Jazz combo is a classic. I have that on my RR3 and absolutely LOVE it..... very much contrasting my EMG Actives on my LPs.... which is just the way I like it.
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QUOTE(soulfly @ Apr 23 2007, 06:47 PM)
Raja Utara.... Mustaine rarely use his neck pickup... he uses bridge pickup most of the time. You can try SH-4 for the bridge, and Alnico II on the neck (Slash's solo).

But then again... Mustaine doesn't use an LP tongue.gif
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Yeah...i know...mustaine now uses his signature Dean FV.

So, no problem in combining Alnico II and SH-4 right? Would that be a good combo or is it just 'funny'?


QUOTE(Everdying @ Apr 23 2007, 06:48 PM)
anyway that SH2 SH4 set should also be able to get the slash sound without any probs.
btw, munkee is a reseller.

just FYI, SD pickups are about SGD99 each in singapore.
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really? that combo can get the Slash warm tone?

is munkee a recommended guitar handyman? or do you have any other recommendation? maybe you can do it?

SGD99 is about RM225. so that wud add up to rm450. wow...that is a lot cheaper! is there any way I could kirim that stuff from anybody here? anyone going to SG? rclxms.gif



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normal setup i can do, but i only do for my own guitars.
im not bothered to do for anyone else unless i know them.

best is to send to tham, his number is somewhere around here, do a search.

munkee have no idea on his work, and from what i know he works in mahagony.
and i dont like mahagony.
end of story.


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ok....i got tham's number edi.

he do repairs for hillary shocking.gif ? dang...it must be expansive then. feel a bit malu to send my cheap guitar for him to tweak.

so....should i go for sh-2 n sh-4 combo or should i go with alnico n sh-4 combo?

anyone giong to SG?


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plus you can install rocket launchers and smoke machine into a LP like Ace Frehley did tongue.gif

btw, Davis in SG has matched sets of SD now, damn good price.

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this deal should be available right? blacktrix, u r going to SG right? can kirim kah? notworthy.gif notworthy.gif of course i give money first....


Added on April 25, 2007, 5:58 pmis there anybody going to SG? would really appreciate your help.

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how are dimarzio pickups compared to EMG's? i plan on changing my pickups, for playing metal
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QUOTE(SweetTooth @ May 5 2007, 10:31 AM)
how are dimarzio pickups compared to EMG's? i plan on changing my pickups, for playing metal
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well EMG's are powerfull and loud. . . it has that in your face kinda attitude. . . EMG users swaer by it =) if you play hard on metal with heavy power chords and blistering loud solos that pierce then be my guest =D

DiMarzio's have less power but more tone. . . you get more dynamics in terms of tone and variety in what you want. . . of course the only pickup close enough to the EMG Actives are the D-Activators and X2N. . . but again. . . if you want high output and powerful stuff then go EMG. . . if you're looking for more tonal variety i suggest DiMarzio

what guitar are you using?
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how are dimarzio pickups compared to EMG's? i plan on changing my pickups, for playing metal
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It depends on what you want from your pickups. biggrin.gif Active EMGs are famous for their sheer power and hum-free operation. They're great for heavy stuff, riff-ing especially. Their clean sounds however, are on the sterile side compared to the passives. Then again, not many EMG players use clean often.

Most shredders swear by DiMarzios and it's not hard to see why. Their high-output pickups are powerful enough to drive the amp into shred territory yet it retains the guitar's acoustic tone.

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QUOTE(Equilibrium777 @ May 5 2007, 12:11 PM)
well EMG's are powerfull and loud. . . it has that in your face kinda attitude. . . EMG users swaer by it =) if you play hard on metal with heavy power chords and blistering loud solos that pierce then be my guest =D

DiMarzio's have less power but more tone. . . you get more dynamics in terms of tone and variety in what you want. . . of course the only pickup close enough to the EMG Actives are the D-Activators and X2N. . . but again. . . if you want high output and powerful stuff then go EMG. . . if you're looking for more tonal variety i suggest DiMarzio 

what guitar are you using?
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i'm using an ESP LTD AX-50

i play mostly metal but wouldn't mind playing some softer stuff. does it make much difference if i play clean with EMG's ?
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Well, I play clean SOMETIMES on my Les Pauls..... And they sound nice and full....

Again, EMGs should sound excellent on your AX.....
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even on clean? lets say i play some i dunno jazz or blues or anything other than metal that doesn't make my mum angry?(a lot people cannot tahan pinch harmonics whistling.gif)
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what i hear from EMG cleans is that they kinda lack warmth and sound sterile
but with loads of gain, be prepared to get smacked in your face with sound lol

keep off EMG81 on the bridge if you're using alder body or bright sounding woods

from my experience, the EMG81 on a kelly sounded horrible, shrilly and err fuzzy.
i can't say the same if its in a warm sounding guitar tho

but well, i'm not a fan of active pickups so, maybe im a little biased =p
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you all just havent met the right active pickup yet tongue.gif

cos guys like nickelback, mark knophler, SRV can pull it off with EMGs...

its all about having a unique sound that fits the song.


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QUOTE(Everdying @ May 5 2007, 10:42 PM)
you all just havent met the right active pickup yet tongue.gif

cos guys like nickelback, mark knophler, SRV can pull it off with EMGs...

its all about having a unique sound that fits the song.
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SRV used EMG's???? o.O
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yeah
that might be the case

SRV used EMG's???? o.O
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tsk tsk, you a SRV fan or not? tongue.gif

his hamilton guitar, the one with 'stevie ray vaughan' inlaid across the fretboard had EMGs in it.
after recording his 2nd album, it was rewired with traditional pickups.

you can see it with EMGs in the 'couldnt stand the weather' video.
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As quoted from WikiPedia:

"Main was a custom-made Hamiltone Strat given to Vaughan as a gift from Billy Gibbons of ZZ Top on April 29, 1984. The guitar was originally supposed to be made in 1979 with "Stevie Vaughan" inlayed with mother-of-pearl in the fingerboard. The plan was crushed when Vaughan started using his middle name. It had cream-colored plastic binding around the body and neck. It was also constructed of 2-piece maple wood and originally had white EMG pickups, an onboard preamp, and Gibson-style "bell" knobs. After the making of the "Couldn't Stand The Weather" music video, Rene Martinez, Vaughan's guitar tech, rewired it with a standard Strat system. The guitar also had a jazz type tone as described by Stevie Ray."

But one of these days, I'm gonna save up for a pair of Bare Knuckle pickups and get an Epi LP custom to try 'em out.

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QUOTE(Everdying @ May 5 2007, 10:42 PM)
you all just havent met the right active pickup yet tongue.gif

cos guys like nickelback, mark knophler, SRV can pull it off with EMGs...

its all about having a unique sound that fits the song.
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It's the same guitar he used for the Cold Shot video, the inlay looks great. biggrin.gif I think I have a vid of him playing that guitar live, but I'm not sure if it's still using active pups.

Gilmour did get an ace tone during the 80s/early 90s, I guess they did fit into his music. biggrin.gif
Though, the tone he got during Live 8 was less heavier but much more orgasmic. biggrin.gif
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so much are the pickups? both 81 and 85. my sister coming back from UK, wanna check prices there too
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UK not cheap. . . seriously. . . its around the same as here slightly cheaper. . . rather you get it off the states. . .

but i dono i heard so many actives and whenever i plug one in it just sounds the same as the other active on the other guitar only slight differences which can't really be noticed unless you're really anal about tone. . .
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Hi. Need advice on SSS pickups on a Fender Standard Strat MIM. Has anyone heard of Kinman? How is it compared to DiMarzio? Thanks in advance.
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kinman's etc are good, so are any of the other well known manufacturers.
but you'll have to order online to get them.

for me tho, if single coils i'll just stick in fenders.
easy to get also, usually a set of 3 will be about RM500-600, decently priced.
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Ordering online is not a problem.

Am just curious what are the major differences on tone wise and etc.
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differences of cos got so many, ask yourself first what sound you want tongue.gif
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yes and go to the site and look at the pup EQ. . .

from there you can get a rough idea how the pup's characteristics are. ..

then factor in your guitar body woodwork and what kinda music you play and what kinda tone you looking for. . . then voila pup =D


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Hmm... What sound I want? hmm.gif

Not too sure how to describe. But something less noise, not too heavy, but power enough for hard rock's distortion. When it comes to clean, want its tone to be really clear and warm. wub.gif

P/S: I'm just trying to gain more knowledge, not time to buy yet as me still beginner learning. blush.gif


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yes and go to the site and look at the pup EQ. . .

from there you can get a rough idea how the pup's characteristics are. ..

then factor in your guitar body woodwork and what kinda music you play and what kinda tone you looking for. . . then voila pup =D
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Try out the Velvet Blue...... I'm now whoring DiMarzios for Single Coil. Will have to wait until next month to install them into my CrapStrat.
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if thats the case then go for the Blue/Red Velvet pups by DiMarzio =D

i use it and Blacktrix seems to be following suit soon =D

go for medium output single coils if you're not going into the heavy territory. . .

i'm using the HS-3 too and it's good in a sense that it has very low outputs but enables me to push the amps gain and volume up. . . this enables me to push the amp more as the pups are not hot. . .

i'm waiting for the Area pickups and may save up for the 58
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QUOTE(Silver Isle @ May 6 2007, 03:15 PM)
Hi. Need advice on SSS pickups on a Fender Standard Strat MIM. Has anyone heard of Kinman? How is it compared to DiMarzio? Thanks in advance.
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Kinman has gotten a number of positive reviews around as some swear by their noiseless pickups. From the clips on their website, they do sound much superior than Fender noiseless pickups. biggrin.gif
Though there are a group of people who think that you can't get genuine singlecoil sound without having the 60-cycle hum. Hence, by canceling the noise, parts of the singlecoil authenticity get lost in the way.

The thing about boutique pickups is that they're bloody expensive and the tonal difference isn't huge unless you've got a very picky ear and a good amp to back it up. It's probably not worth the trouble, so the next best alternative's mass-produced ones.

Speaking of DiMarzio, went to JS today and they had loads of DiMarzios on display. New stock I guess. drool.gif
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QUOTE(Equilibrium777 @ May 6 2007, 05:35 PM)
if thats the case then go for the Blue/Red Velvet pups by DiMarzio =D

i use it and Blacktrix seems to be following suit soon =D

go for medium output single coils if you're not going into the heavy territory. . .

i'm using the HS-3 too and it's good in a sense that it has very low outputs but enables me to push the amps gain and volume up. . . this enables me to push the amp more as the pups are not hot. . .

i'm waiting for the Area pickups and may save up for the 58
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Advice on which model on which position can? rclxms.gif
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well basically your choices are quite simple as you're looking for traditional vintage pups. . .

Neck and Middle / Bridge

Blue Velvet /Virtual solo
Red Velvet /Virtual Vintage solo
FS-1 /Blue Velvet
Area 58 /Red Velvet
Area 61 /Area 58
/Area 61

as you can see the choices are quite small as you want a traditional sounding pup. . .

the area series are just modeled after vintage pups only with less pull and less hum. . .

the blue velvet gives a warmer side but still retains the fender twang same goes for the red but less warm more clarity. . .

i haven't tried the FS-1 before so i can't say much but from what i gather it's a warm fat pup which has no intention of being like a traditional vintage fender pup so if you're looking for that twang look away but if you want something different then yea. . .

the virtual solo and vintage solo is hotter and has a balanced eq. . . not too high so it will pierce but not too low till it loses its vintage twang tone. . .

thats about it. . . didn't include those new rail pups and stuff since it wont be vintage anymore

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Wrong place to post arenoll..... That's why I deleted the last one.....

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how are seymour duncan distortion pickups?
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Which model for what guitar, after what sound?

Details man! Details!

You are in the forum long enough to know you should ALWAYS list down details when asking questions!
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just curious on the pickups. max cavalera uses them as well as wayne static..
max with his AX and wayne with his explorer
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SweetTooth : Firstly.. What tuning will u be playing with that pickups on your guitar? And what guitar do u plan to put the duncan distortion into?

Like blacktrix taikor said, details! heheheheh tongue.gif

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i guess i'll be putting it in my AX?
tuning? drop c/standard
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i think its wat kind of sound you're looking for is the question they are trying to ask you =p
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oh. i just wanna know roughly how the pickups sound like thats all sweat.gif
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Again, there are SO MANY Seymour Duncan models.....
Do you want the Livewire? Dimebuckers? 59' Alnicos? JB? Jazz?.......
Too many to list down..... which is why we are asking what kind of sound you want so we can recommend you a model................
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he mentioned seymour duncan distortion

u want drop tunings may i suggest dimarzio D Sonic? keke

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Ok, I've got a question about pickups in general...

what's the difference between direct-mounted pickups and those mounted in a pickup-ring (y'know, like got a box around the pup...)?

Is there a tonal difference? If so, like how?
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apparently theres no tonal differences.
it just looks cooler tongue.gif

i was thinking of doing it, but then seeing how much of the pickup sides were exposed just to get it at the right height, i decided to put the ring on.

also any pickup adjustment, since the screws are in the wood, the holes might get bigger with continuous adjustments...then see the pickup fall out tongue.gif

i did notice tho in petrucci's rock discipline video, he originally had pickup rings on his guitar since can see 4 holes surrounding both pickups.
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QUOTE(Everdying @ Jun 1 2007, 07:08 PM)
apparently theres no tonal differences.
it just looks cooler tongue.gif
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Really? I always felt that pickup rings look cooler... like the pickup is in some kind of altar... hehe.. biggrin.gif

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some argue that direct mounted is better coz of better sound transfer/vibration coz its directly mounted unto the body wood as opposed to being mounted on some plastic ring. and there goes another argument where some ppl use brass pickup rings as an alternative to direct mounted. dont ask me how true is that.

i personally prefer direct mounted. mine is.
however, i do notice that most high end ibanez's (sig models exempted) are direct mounted.
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How much is the price of EMG 81 and 60. Just give me the total and the price of each model. Thx
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in bentley?
think they increased price again.
EMG81 about RM430, EMG60 i think is RM380.

while in SG, its SGD135 / RM300 each, doesnt matter what model.
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how much is an EMG85 then ?
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If you're getting an EMG81/85 combo, it's cheaper and easier to get the Zakk Wylde set, which is just the EMG81/85 combo with longer cables for the longer Les Paul shafts.... and that will fit in most guitars anyway....

About RM700 sticker price in Bentley, but you should be able to knock it down to about RM680-670 like that.
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You can buy it separate and the price above does NOT include installation costs. Generally, it's about RM50 PER PICKUP..... but if you buy 'em both at the same place in a set, sometimes they only charge RM50.

You can actually install them yourself if you have a soldering set and are quite handy with it. But if you're worried that you're going to ruin your baby (and it DOES happen with inexperienced hands), I suggest you leave it to the experts.
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I thought we'll need like batteries for the active pickups? shocking.gif if DIY, just place the batteries together in the wiring place?
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Yes. You'll also need to route a battery compartment.... and if you're guitar doesn't have room for it, you'll have to make a cavity.

That's why it's easier if you let a proper luthier do it for you.
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most guitars will have a room for a 9v battery.
MOST.

one of my guitars didnt have room, was a 1vol / 1tone setup.
and i wanted EMGs in it, so i sent it off to have the tone vol hole filled in and refinished.
i dont use the tone control anyway, so no loss, and now i got EMGs in it tongue.gif

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QUOTE(Everdying @ Jun 5 2007, 07:58 PM)
most guitars will have a room for a 9v battery.
MOST.

one of my guitars didnt have room, was a 1vol / 1tone setup.
and i wanted EMGs in it, so i sent it off to have the tone vol hole filled in and refinished.
i dont use the tone control anyway, so no loss, and now i got EMGs in it tongue.gif
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Good idea! Very nice! rclxms.gif

How much did it cost u to fill in the tone vol hole n refinish? Where did u do it?
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Tnx blacktrix!
Good idea! Very nice! rclxms.gif

How much did it cost u to fill in the tone vol hole n refinish? Where did u do it?
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about RM100, you cant tell there was a hole there before tongue.gif
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My pickup i just wanna insert into my BC rich, which currently have thier custom pickup itself
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how much are EMG 81 and EMG 85(both individually) now?
how about EMG ZW?

i heard from a friend that they're both essentially the same, only the ZW set has longer wires or something like that rclxub.gif
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Yeah. Loner wires because the shafts in the Les Paul bodies are longer too....
Both my ZW sets are in LPs anyways.
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not longer wires.
has extra set of pots with longer shafts, cos the normal ones arent long enough to stick out of a LP.

pricewise, the EMG ZW may be just a little cheaper, as its a set.
EMG81 now in bentley iirc is RM430.
EMG85 around RM390.

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edward of freeman.
about RM100, you cant tell there was a hole there before tongue.gif
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QUOTE(Everdying @ Jun 22 2007, 06:22 PM)
not longer wires.
has extra set of pots with longer shafts, cos the normal ones arent long enough to stick out of a LP.

pricewise, the EMG ZW may be just a little cheaper, as its a set.
EMG81 now in bentley iirc is RM430.
EMG85 around RM390.
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how much does a set of EMG ZW cost?
do 81/85's come in a set as well?
and one last question, will it be ok if i put in EMG HZ into my AX instead of 81/85?
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Eh... edward freeman the one that makes freeman accoustic guitars?
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QUOTE(SweetTooth @ Jun 22 2007, 06:51 PM)
how much does a set of EMG ZW cost?
do 81/85's come in a set as well?
and one last question, will it be ok if i put in EMG HZ into my AX instead of 81/85?
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the 81/85 set is the ZW set, no others.
now? definitely somewhere close to RM800.
i got mine for RM600 a yr ago during bentley's sale.

and EMG HZ is nowhere near what the 81/85 sounds like.
you be better of putting duncans instead.
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Eh... edward freeman the one that makes freeman accoustic guitars?
It's a little known fact that Gordon Freeman from Half Life, while not hunting down aliens and breaking government conspiracies, loves to build guitars too. Look out for the headcrab model soon!
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QUOTE(Everdying @ Jun 22 2007, 07:21 PM)
who else can there be?
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the 81/85 set is the ZW set, no others.
now? definitely somewhere close to RM800.
i got mine for RM600 a yr ago during bentley's sale.

and EMG HZ is nowhere near what the 81/85 sounds like.
you be better of putting duncans instead.
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anybody knows anyone whose bringing in SD pickup for tele? how much?
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^ go for Bently, if they don't have it then u have to special order from their shop... gonna take months though.. the last time i checked there's no SD pickups for tele..
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Anyone knows where's the cheapest place/person to get SD pickups from? Plus, anyone personally used the '59, Jazz, Parallel Axis Original, and Parallel Axis Blues Saraceno?
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the only SD pickups i ever used are JB and hotrails.
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can i buy pickup caps?
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QUOTE(valkyrie1232 @ Feb 16 2007, 08:25 PM)
La Floresta is in Shah Alam and from what I know they are somehow the sole distributor for DiMarzio puppies but the prices there is probably about the same or a bit lesser than Woh Fatt ...about RM400-ish i reckon  sweat.gif

You can try gain10music.com instead. It ain't that hard. You won't save much though...a standard humbucker pickup + shipping would cost around RM320-ish.

More money for your Krank Krankenstein fund ok!  rclxms.gif
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EMG 81 how much (now market price)? thanks..
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what is the most powerful passive pickup(humbucker)? in terms of output etc
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i would say. . .

X2N?

but i think there is a bill lawrence pup that is higher. . . not sure. . .
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i gotta go try the SD Invader.. wonder if can get it here
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Wao...what a good description about the pickups...
I'm always use the bridge pu as me always play some Metal song...haha...
but i use neck pu for the clean song like Californiacation...
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X2N7 Review

Phew... ok I finally managed to slot in some time with my 1527 with a newly-installed DiMarzio X2N7 in the bridge position.

Just a little background concerning why I chose of this p/up:

1. I've been GASsing for an X2N since way way back and was considering installing it into my Jackson RR3- on the spur of the moment however I opted for an EMG81/85 combo instead.
2. EMG81-7 or EMG707 would have required body routing on the guitar... and the p/ups themselves aren't very easy to source here. (DeadEye, no comments please... tongue.gif )
3. It's the highest output DiMarzio 7-string p/up and it has rails (FTW!).
4. Reviews on sevenstring.org etc say that this p/up is tight, brighter than the 6-string X2N and is dead-on for metal.

So with these things in mind, I plugged in my 1527 into my GT8 and dialled up the standard metal rhythm/lead patches (Mesa R-Fier Mdn 1 sim + 8x12 cab sim) which I made for the Jackson RR3+EMG81/85 combo; basically to get an A/B comparison between the EMG81 and the X2N7.

Shhhh....
I had one real fear before getting this p/up though... noise.

The EMGhas an RMS output voltage of 1.25khz and a peak output voltage of 1.75khz. IIRC, the EMG81 is actually a low output passive p/up and it's the active electronix thingy which boosts the output into "Stand Tall and Shake the Heaven" regions... supposedly that's why it's a relatively quiet p/up.

The X2N7 on the other hand is a straight-out ballz2Dwallz high output p/up so I was a bit worried that I'd get some serious feedback issues... surprisingly though, this p/up is quite quiet. The verdict is still out though because I've only tried it at slightly loud bedroom levels (twas be 2 hours till midnight, and t'would be impolite to blast wink.gif ) ... will have to see how it fares at band playing levels though.

Rhythm
Since it's a 7-string, naturally the first power chord I hit was the low B and I thought to myself... wow, the distortion is as saturated as the EMG81. I played a few random palm-muted riffs on the B string (8th notes, 16th notes, syncopated, straight... standard power metal fare! "16th notes are the only notes!") and the thing that really struck me was how tight and clear the 7th string sounded. Heck, when I played on the 6th string it sounded even clearer and tighter than the EMG81! It was so bloody addictive that I spent about 15 minutes doing nothing but chugging aimlessly on the 7th string... laugh.gif

I think the difference between the EMG81 in the Jackson and the X2N7 in the 1527 is that the EMG81 has a bit more mids than the X2N7... according to the EQ chart on the DiMarzio website, the X2N7 has a pretty flat EQ curve with a very slight dip in the mid frequencies. Also probably it's because the Jackson is alder whereas the 1527 is basswood... who knows, I'm not very well-versed in guitar woods... hehe... wink.gif

Lead
My lead patch is essentially the same as my rhythm patch, but I back off the gain on the R-fier sim and slap a T-screamer sim in front as a booster... plus a bit of EQ boost in the 2khz range. The X2N7 responded quite well- it may not be as bright as the EMG81 but it sure as heck sounds more "alive". Interestingly enough, according Tham (who has an X2N installed in his Ibanez Rhandy Rhoads) the X2N7 is a lot brighter than the 6-string X2N... then again, IIRC the X2N7 is not so much a modified X2N for 7-strings but more of a complete redesign. Oh well, I like the results... biggrin.gif

For slow lines, the X2N7 has a bit of a sizzle to it which makes it "sing" nicely, but not so over-the-top. Surprisingly though, for fast scalar runs on the lower strings (7th to 4th strings), the notes sound clearer than the EMG81 in the Jackson. (...ok, I know a statement like this generally attracts comments like "if it sounds jumbled up, it's probably your technique wtf!" laugh.gif ... but since I'm comparing my own playing on the Jackson+EMG81 against the 1527+X2N7, that's as objective as I can get, so there! tongue.gif ...in other words, runs sounded less sloppy on the X2N7 than the EMG81... hehe...)

Yes, in my euphoric state, I even tried sweep arpeggios with this thing... it didn't really sound very clear, but I'm going to refrain from saying any more because that, I can safely say, is probably because of my technique (or lack thereof)... doh.gif

...ok, the above was all tried with the p/up selector in the bridge position.... when I switched to the next position (2nd position from the bridge... the one where it uses one bridge single coil plus the neck p/up in parallel), ...the sound was single-coilish but still punchy. Gee... the output however was as much as my neck p/up (stock Ibz V7-7) in serial... doh.gif

Clean tone... huh what?!
Hehe... I remember reading on the DiMarzio website... "If you're looking for pretty sound, don't go here. If you're looking for pretty crazy, this is it." laugh.gif That pretty much sums up how the clean tone sounds like...

On a more serious note however, chords don't sound as jangly with the X2N7 as with the EMG81. In fact, if the p/up selector is in the 2nd position from the Bridge, it actually sounds quite nice... punchy, clear and bright yet not piercing.

The End
I can safely say that I am now a DiMarzio convert. If I were to do a one-word against one-word comparison with the EMG, I'd say that the EMG is a "chainsaw" but this baby is a "chainsword" ("In the grim darkness of the far future, there is only war." ..hehe...) Brutal, yet with more finesse than the EMG81...

Now the only problem is getting a decent neck p/up companion for this beast. I've been eyeing the DA7 neck which has an interesting treble spike... but I may also consider another X2N7 just to get that tight sound for my neck p/up. Plus, quad rails FTW! thumbup.gif

So, in conclusion...
This thing is: like cold steel, good for slaying dragons (+1 against chromatic dragonkind), saving the green valleys where unicorns run wild, defending townes against the evil forces of the Abyss... essentially- metal. tongue.gif

This thing is bad for: anything that's not metal. On that note, I'll end with a quote from Joey DiMaio...

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Any clips to share?


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QUOTE(Rossie @ Sep 7 2007, 10:33 PM)
Any clips to share?
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Would love to!
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QUOTE(Rossie @ Sep 10 2007, 03:54 PM)
Would love to!
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ermm isn't that easy? just take a shot or something. . . then you're under it. . . lol
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QUOTE(Equilibrium777 @ Sep 10 2007, 11:43 PM)
ermm isn't that easy?
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well, according to Rusty, when he had to shoot a video to showcase his Dean signature series, he chose "Under the Influence" because it was the easiest song from his solo album. doh.gif

...ok before mod intervention comes, back to topic a bit...

I just found out from Tham that you can actually mix and match a passive pickup with an active one, so long as you use different volume pots. Which gives rise to interesting possibilities... like having an X2N on the bridge and an EMG85 on the neck. Seems ok for 6-strings but for 7-strings, it'll look bloody weird because of the stupid size of the EMG pickup covers... blink.gif
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you just found out from tham?
ppl have been doing that for ages, even judas priest has tongue.gif
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QUOTE(Everdying @ Sep 11 2007, 02:38 PM)
you just found out from tham?
ppl have been doing that for ages, even judas priest has tongue.gif
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of cos la, but you'll need different pot values for active and passive, unless you really epic and decide not to have any vol/tone controls.
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since we're on the topic of high output passive pickups, anyone tried (if its already here lah) the dimarzio dactivator?

the passive pickup that's suppose to be everything an active is minus its flaws (a bold claim)

Heard the clips from guitarworld website but a little 'sterile' to me...
Here's the link by the way:


http://www.guitarworld.com/article/dimarzi...d_dp219_pickups
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It sounds good!

Darn... Gotta get me one of those ESP Eclipse...
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QUOTE(strinq @ Sep 24 2007, 11:44 PM)
Heard the clips from guitarworld website but a little 'sterile' to me...
Here's the link by the way:
http://www.guitarworld.com/article/dimarzi...d_dp219_pickups
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lets reword that from an active point of view...
instead of sterile...
the pickup has crystal clean sounds without any of the inherent muddiness associated with passive pickups tongue.gif
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haha, but dunnolah, like a little too clear, no 'life' to it or something.
But the distortion is sweet though.
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i wonder how will those dactivators compare to emg hz h4's


Added on September 27, 2007, 11:00 pmanyone know where i can emg-style pickup covers like these?

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also, do you guys think it'll be funny to have a covered pickup in the bridge and an open coil pickup in the neck?

i'm deciding between an emg hz h4 and a seymour duncan sh-8 invader.. anyone tried them before?

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Dear Sweet Tooth, the Dimarzio De-activators seem to be rather good, emulating the power and clarity of EMGs, yet retaining some form of 'character'. And EMG HZ not being their most popular model, well Dimarzio may seem to be the better choice. Only setback is, the De-activator Neck is trebly as hell! The Bridge model looks interesting though.

Just my RM0.07 icon_rolleyes.gif

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im thinking of getting the neck one but i dont think itll go well with my burstbucker pro on the bridge right?
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Yeah, but supposedly the D-Activator 7 Neck sounds bright but not brittle on the higher strings.

I doubt that the EMG-HZ will sound similar to the DA7 though, since like Val says, the DA7 is supposed to emulate active pups like EMG81.

SweetTooth, your AX is basswood right? ...you should probably stay clear from the Invader then... my friend has an Invader in a basswood RG, and it is not a very clear sounding p/up. Also, Invaders are supposedly better in woods like alder than in basswood.

Why not try the X2N? It's as high output (or higher!) as the Invader... plus the rails look schweeet... biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(echobrainproject @ Sep 28 2007, 02:55 PM)
im thinking of getting the neck one but i dont think itll go well with my burstbucker pro on the bridge right?
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a nice one to complement the bb pro, gibson '57 classic.
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@ rusty: mine's agathis('06 model with lower specs)

i'd like something bright for some tight metal and alexi-ish tone tongue.gif
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QUOTE(SweetTooth @ Sep 28 2007, 06:14 PM)
@ rusty: mine's agathis('06 model with lower specs)

i'd like something bright for some tight metal and alexi-ish tone tongue.gif
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Well... I know for a fact that the X2N7 is bloody tight and is reasonably bright ala your tone (err... I mean Alexi wink.gif ). The only X2N I've heard is Tham's one, but that's in the neck position.

Still, if you want tight and Alexi-sh, I think Invader is outta the question. And he was using the HZ in a Jackson (alder presumably).

Not sure how Agathis is supposed to sound like. Hel, be safe and get EMG81/85 FTW! icon_rolleyes.gif
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It's true....... forget about the rest if you're looking for Laiho's tone.
EMG 81/85 or EMG-HZ are still your best bet....

I know he just switched, but you loved his tone from his EMG days, so just stick with that.
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the guys from trivium have switched from EMGs to SD Blackouts tongue.gif
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more and more people are switching to blackouts haha.

i actually just need a bridge pickup, i'm happy with my neck pickup already(i like it warm on the neck pickup)
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QUOTE(Everdying @ Sep 28 2007, 05:44 PM)
a nice one to complement the bb pro, gibson '57 classic.
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whats the price like?
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slightly cheaper than BB tongue.gif
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What pups will be great for metal in an Epi LP Standard?
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EMG81/85 combo maybe?

It's a tried and proven combo, and you can't really go wrong with these pickups for metal...
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EMGs?Nah,I don't really fancy actives.
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Why would be the reason?
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Active pups is a love/hate affair. biggrin.gif You either love them to the point that you can't play without them or you're so strictly against it that you can't play with them. xD
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hey guys, I really need your help into this. My friend is giving me his pickups. It's a 2 single coils from an Epiphone. So I want to stick those pickups ontop of my big baby Taylor(next to the bridge and neck)... I have seen a few fellas who did it already, not to mention Kurt Cobain on his MTV unplugged performance. http://youtube.com/watch?v=DH8fQT-147A

Help me out will ya? and pls pls pls don come tellin me to go to the guitar shop and fit some pickup under bridge. I'm pretty broke right now sad.gif

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