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post Dec 3 2015, 10:23 AM

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QUOTE(kyle_kl @ Dec 2 2015, 08:23 PM)
Why Aeon Watami rate so high one?
I still planning to use the card for coming Bangkok trip
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you can post the rate for our info once you came back from Bangkok then.

If high, should be all currency high, but seems like Yen only thus far, another person posted USD seems alright the rate. hmm.gif
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post Dec 3 2015, 10:35 PM

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Name Of Credit CardMaybank 2 Platinum Card - Amex
Transaction Date20 Nov 2015
Posting Date21 Nov 2015
Amount charged in USD8.98
Amount billed in MYR40.03
OANDA rate0.233133
Bank rate0.224332
fee3.92%
noticed that those transaction via Paypal got higher fee doh.gif

This post has been edited by vincentxiang: Dec 3 2015, 10:37 PM
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post Dec 5 2015, 10:15 AM

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QUOTE(Human Nature @ Dec 1 2015, 01:56 PM)
minus 3% still high..wrong calculation?
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it was the same formula used when i calculate for RMB.
i believe is JPY issue, maybe they use the outdated JPY value from visa?
oct to nov is 1000 yen = rm35.5-36
and during Nov end is 1000 yen = rm34-35

I have contact aeon to ask for this issue, they said they will check with me on the admin fee and give me a call back by today. Hope is calculation error for JPY, else i have to use my MBB card for my japan trip. sweat.gif

This post has been edited by edwardccg: Dec 5 2015, 10:16 AM
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post Dec 5 2015, 12:21 PM

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QUOTE(edwardccg @ Dec 5 2015, 10:15 AM)
it was the same formula used when i calculate for RMB.
i believe is JPY issue, maybe they use the outdated JPY value from visa?
oct to nov is 1000 yen = rm35.5-36
and during Nov end is 1000 yen = rm34-35

I have contact aeon to ask for this issue, they said they will check with me on the admin fee and give me a call back by today. Hope is calculation error for JPY, else i have to use my MBB card for my japan trip. sweat.gif
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yeah man, please do keep us updated. I am reserving one of my next year's quarter quota for watami usage in japan too.
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post Dec 5 2015, 03:50 PM

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QUOTE(Human Nature @ Dec 5 2015, 12:21 PM)
yeah man, please do keep us updated. I am reserving one of my next year's quarter quota for watami usage in japan too.
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both my JPY transaction was done in paypal, with option to 'let local bank to handle currency conversion rate ( using visa/master rate)'.
so the amount should charge in JPY to aeon.

at my Nov 26th transaction, post at 28th Nov, the aeon authorize department tell me that they receive payment for 7050yen, with claim amount of rm256, then aeon charge 1% on it to become rm259.

the claim amount they said is submit by paypal based on posted rate at 28 Nov. this mean the rate is not calculate within aeon but from paypal.

then i contact paypal, they mention they submit the payment of 7050 yen from aeon, conversion is done by aeon.

I have now confused. rclxub.gif
aeon say check with paypal, paypal said check with aeon. this never ends. mad.gif

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post Dec 5 2015, 04:23 PM

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QUOTE(kenjixx @ Dec 1 2015, 01:38 PM)
|Transaction Type|Aeon Watami|
Difference(228.15 -214.540524) / 220.523037=6.34%
so pain  sad.gif
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QUOTE(rap7733 @ Dec 2 2015, 09:03 AM)
Transaction Type:    Aeon Watami
Difference (3.7474 - 3.4698) / 3.4698 = 8.00%
Did I calculated wrong? hmm.gif  The rate is very high.
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Hi, physical transaction, online transaction or paypal transaction?

QUOTE(edwardccg @ Dec 5 2015, 03:50 PM)
both my JPY transaction was done in paypal, with option to 'let local bank to handle currency conversion rate ( using visa/master rate)'.
so the amount should charge in JPY to aeon.

at my Nov 26th transaction, post at 28th Nov, the aeon authorize department tell me that they receive payment for 7050yen, with claim amount of rm256, then aeon charge 1% on it to become rm259.

the claim amount they said is submit by paypal based on posted rate at 28 Nov. this mean the rate is not calculate within aeon but from paypal.

then i contact paypal, they mention they submit the payment of 7050 yen from aeon, conversion is done by aeon.

I have now confused.  rclxub.gif
aeon say check with paypal, paypal said check with aeon. this never ends.  mad.gif
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let's see whether the 2 transaction above are made using paypal too.
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post Dec 5 2015, 08:04 PM

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My transaction was from amazon.jp not going through paypal
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post Dec 7 2015, 07:59 AM

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QUOTE(Human Nature @ Dec 5 2015, 04:23 PM)
Hi, physical transaction, online transaction or paypal transaction?
let's see whether the 2 transaction above are made using paypal too.
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Hi, I'm using Paypal with option to 'let local bank to handle currency conversion rate ( using visa/master rate)'.
The payment is charge to my AEON WATAMI card in JPY.
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post Dec 7 2015, 08:01 AM

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QUOTE(kenjixx @ Dec 2 2015, 03:26 PM)
you use posting date to calculate? if calculate using transaction date it's lower abit but the end result still very high

Transaction Type    Aeon Watami
(0.03840 - 0.035192)/0.035192 = 6.5%
Transaction Type  UOB VOX
(3.8397-3.5192)/0.035192 = 9.1%
another one recent transaction...
Transaction TypeAeon Watami
Transaction Date30/11/2015
Posting Date02/12/2015
Transaction amountJPY1260
Amount chargedRM46.34
rate0.0368
visa rate0.034872
Difference(46.34 -43.93872) /43.93872=5.46%
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I thought bank use posting date to calculate.

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post Dec 7 2015, 10:13 AM

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Thanks. Hope to someone with physical transaction can share their stats if available smile.gif
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post Dec 8 2015, 12:02 AM

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Name Of Credit CardMaybank 2 Platinum Card - Amex
Transaction Date5 Dec 2015
Posting Date6 Dec 2015
Amount charged in SGD20
Amount billed in MYR62.08
OANDA rate3.0038
Bank rate3.104
fee3.34%
P.S.: The transaction via Paypal.
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post Dec 8 2015, 08:59 AM

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Transaction TypeMaybank 2 Card Visa
Transaction Date03/12/2015
Posting Date05/12/2015
Transaction amountJPY11000
Amount chargedRM388.98
rate0.0354
visa rate0.0345846405
Difference(388.98 -380.43) / 380.43=2.24%

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post Dec 19 2015, 08:12 PM

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Name Of Credit CardMaybank 2 Platinum Card - Mastercard
Transaction Date14 Dec 2015
Posting Date15 Dec 2015
Amount charged in SGD128.11
Amount billed in MYR410.46
Mastercard rate0.327036
Bank rate0.312113
fee4.78%
P/S: paypal transaction

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post Dec 21 2015, 06:30 PM

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hi friends,

I've recently spent my cimb card overseas. They had informed me that the conversion rates comes visa international. Upon checking at visa website, there is a place where we can input our bank fees where i keyed in 1%. Upon checking my bill, i realised that i was overcharged with 1% extra by cimb.

This means visa gives a horrible exchange rate and top of that charges 1% exchange rate. Then Cimb charges 1% extra. Total is 2% instead of 1%.

Has any bro's been through this situation. I lodged official complain with BNM and guess what. i opened all my bill dated 6 years and got my extra 1% back. Please be aware!!!!!!!
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QUOTE(umeshmalani @ Dec 21 2015, 07:30 PM)
hi friends,

I've recently spent my cimb card overseas. They had informed me that the conversion rates comes visa international. Upon checking at visa website, there is a place where we can input our bank fees where i keyed in 1%. Upon checking my bill, i realised that i was overcharged with 1% extra by cimb.

This means visa gives a horrible exchange rate and top of that charges 1% exchange rate. Then Cimb charges 1% extra. Total is 2% instead of 1%.

Has any bro's been through this situation. I lodged official complain with BNM and guess what. i opened all my bill dated 6 years and got my extra 1% back. Please be aware!!!!!!!
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They refund u 1% for those transaction dating 6 years back?
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post Dec 22 2015, 06:33 PM

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Name Of Credit CardCIMB Platinum MC Cash Rebate
Transaction Date26 Nov 2015
Posting Date28 Nov 2015
Amount charged in US$106 BHPhotovideo.com
Amount billed in MYR456.15
Bank rate4.3033
MC rate4.254
fee1.159%

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post Dec 23 2015, 02:59 PM

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The watami rate looks ok, the high rate might because of paypal ?

Transaction TypeAeon Watami
Transaction Date11/12/2015
Posting Date16/12/2015
Transaction amountJPY 4020
Amount chargedRM147.84
visa rate @ posting @ 0%100 JPY = 3.6036 MYR
posted rate100 JPY = 3.6776 MYR
Difference(3.6776 - 3.6036 ) / 3.6036 =2.05%

Transaction TypeAeon Watami
Transaction Date12/12/2015
Posting Date15/12/2015
Transaction amountJPY 8300
Amount chargedRM305.23
visa rate @ posting @ 0%100 JPY= 3.6022 MYR
posted rate100 JPY= 3.6775 MYR
Difference(3.6775 - 3.6022 ) / 3.6022 = 2.09%

Transaction TypeAeon Watami
Transaction Date12/12/2015
Posting Date15/12/2015
Transaction amountJPY 2160
Amount chargedRM79.43
visa rate @ posting @ 0%100 JPY= 3.6022 MYR
posted rate100 JPY= 3.6773 MYR
Difference(3.6773 - 3.6022 ) / 3.6022 = 2.08%

Transaction TypeAeon Watami
Transaction Date12/12/2015
Posting Date16/12/2015
Transaction amountJPY 34450
Amount chargedRM1266.91
visa rate @ posting @ 0%100 JPY= 3.6036 MYR
posted rate100 JPY= 3.6778 MYR
Difference(3.6778 - 3.6036 ) / 3.6036 = 2.06%

Transaction TypeAeon Watami
Transaction Date12/12/2015
Posting Date16/12/2015
Transaction amountJPY 10400
Amount chargedRM382.46
visa rate @ posting @ 0%100 JPY= 3.6036 MYR
posted rate100 JPY= 3.6775 MYR
Difference(3.6775 - 3.6036 ) / 3.6036 = 2.05%

Transaction TypeAeon Watami
Transaction Date13/12/2015
Posting Date17/12/2015
Transaction amountJPY 6950
Amount chargedRM255.59
visa rate @ posting @ 0%100 JPY= 3.5657 MYR
posted rate100 JPY= 3.6776 MYR
Difference(3.6776 - 3.5657 ) / 3.5657 = 3.14%

Transaction TypeAeon Watami
Transaction Date15/12/2015
Posting Date18/12/2015
Transaction amountJPY 5076
Amount chargedRM186.67
visa rate @ posting @ 0%100 JPY= 3.5525 MYR
posted rate100 JPY= 3.6755 MYR
Difference(3.6755 - 3.5525 ) / 3.5525 = 3.46%

Transaction TypeAeon Watami
Transaction Date16/12/2015
Posting Date19/12/2015
Transaction amountJPY 5000
Amount chargedRM183.33
visa rate @ posting @ 0%100 JPY= 3.5774 MYR
posted rate100 JPY= 3.6666 MYR
Difference(3.6666 - 3.5774 ) / 3.5774 = 2.49%

Transaction TypeAeon Watami
Transaction Date16/12/2015
Posting Date20/12/2015
Transaction amountJPY 6800
Amount chargedRM250.07
visa rate @ posting @ 0%100 JPY= 3.5774 MYR
posted rate100 JPY= 3.6775 MYR
Difference(3.6775 - 3.5774 ) / 3.5774 = 2.8%

Transaction TypeAeon Watami
Transaction Date19/12/2015
Posting Date23/12/2015
Transaction amountJPY 5389
Amount chargedRM198.18
visa rate @ posting @ 0%100 JPY= 3.5726 MYR
posted rate100 JPY= 3.6775 MYR
Difference(3.6775 - 3.5726 ) / 3.5726 = 2.93%
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post Dec 23 2015, 06:44 PM

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not as good as last time though. physical transaction?
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post Dec 24 2015, 03:49 PM

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QUOTE(Human Nature @ Dec 23 2015, 06:44 PM)
not as good as last time though. physical transaction?
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yes, all physical transaction
come to check all my transaction so far.
the posted rate by aeon was vary from 100 yen = rm 3.6773 - 3.6778
when the actual visa rate drop, the aeon rate still in the same range

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post Dec 24 2015, 04:25 PM

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