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post Jan 12 2006, 04:43 AM

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QUOTE(MetalZone @ Jan 11 2006, 04:56 PM)
I have the following extra stuff for sale coming in the same shipment. All brand new.
First come first serve for those who didn't make it for the first bulk. Preferbly take it as a set. Priority given for those who take the whole set.

● Swiftech Storm G4 Waterblock (RM299)
● Swiftech MCP655 12VDC Inline Pump (Laing D5) (RM360)
● HWLabs Black Ice Extreme III (1/2" barbs, Black) (RM390)
● 5 feet Tygon 1/2in. ID 5/8in. OD Laboratory Tubing #R3603 (RM47.50)

Total = RM986.50
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Up for grab... 1 set of l33t w/cooling kit.... the pump is soooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo tempting.... sweat.gif sweat.gif
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post Jan 13 2006, 11:32 AM

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QUOTE(uzairi @ Jan 12 2006, 06:30 PM)
Im selling my wc kit which consists of :-

1) Aleck's Jet Impingement WB
2) Bulkhy's 120mm Radiator
3) Nidec Beta V 12cm fan
4) Nirox P2800 pump
5) DIY reservoir

Anybody interested please PM me. Price are negotiable.
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Guys... for those who's wanna start w/cooling, get this one thumbup.gif thumbup.gif
Sad to see you've to part with the waterblock sweat.gif
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post Jan 13 2006, 10:37 PM

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QUOTE(sidewinderz @ Jan 13 2006, 08:17 PM)
wat water block is that? blink.gif details pls. tongue.gif
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jet impingement... 1 in 2 out.. almost similar to cathar's design.. need high flow pump though.

QUOTE(antonio_zth @ Jan 13 2006, 08:36 PM)
hmmm...i'm also building up my cacing tubing watercooling kit from TT a.k.a Big Water...upgrading it to be no more cacing tubing...there will be 1/2 and 3/8 after this...

and also gettin my self a heat core from a honda S2000...woohooo...potong kereta...
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orait thumbup.gif thumbup.gif .. don't forget to create work log and post pic here or new thread thumbup.gif Let's make this subforum alive.
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post Jan 14 2006, 11:00 PM

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QUOTE(antonio_zth @ Jan 14 2006, 03:03 PM)
no meonye....finishhhh.....
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blink.gif blink.gif meonye.. wat is it? A breed of cat? biggrin.gif

Neway.. the w/block uzairi's willing/thinking to let go is similar to Cathar's Whitewater jet impingement block...
here's some pics (of cathar's block)

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the jet impingement block is suitable for high flow pump...
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post Jan 14 2006, 11:22 PM

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QUOTE(moderno @ Jan 14 2006, 11:10 PM)
My Asetek Hydor L20 pump just "kaput" this evening due to lightning doh.gif 

my A64 now shoot up to 92c...giler aahh cry.gif

Anybody want to offer any pumps that match 10mm / 3/8" size tubing?
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Hydor L20 = Nirox P2800.. RM 28.00 kedai ikan...
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post Jan 14 2006, 11:37 PM

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QUOTE(sidewinderz @ Jan 14 2006, 11:27 PM)
is that a high power pump?

amok, the water block suitable for socket 754?
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Nirox P2800? High power?... waddaya mean by power? Consumption = 28W.

Flow Max = 1200L/h (Low Flow Pump) (not recomended for Cascade or Jet impingement, but OK on w/block such as swifty MCW6000's series)
Head max = 2.0m (unrestricted) (average oni)

But nevertheless, the P2800 specs almost similar to the Hydor L20... infact even looks the same.

As for uzairi's w/block, currently with his socket A mobo.. so mebbe need to mod a bit lar or get some retention bracket or improvise ler... sweat.gif
but performed well on any socket if match with decent pump. thumbup.gif

weh.. where uzairi by the way? I'm just commenting on his w/block and I am NOT his sales rep by the way.

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post Jan 16 2006, 03:09 PM

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QUOTE(ikan_semilang @ Jan 16 2006, 12:22 AM)
This tubing can used with my wc system or not? Bought it RM1 per metre. sweat.gif

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Dimension:13mm x 1.25mm
Brand:Aeroplane
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Aeroplane brand.. , of course can use if the right size... quality wise though, errrrr.. sweat.gif tight bends are no no..

QUOTE(moderno @ Jan 16 2006, 12:42 AM)
oledi got the Nirox P2800 at ikan shopt SS14 near caltex there biggrin.gif

thanks @TJye for showing me the places smile.gif

funny la the auntie there...when i asked her u got Nirox P2800 or not...then she replied...u wanna use for ur computer aaa?....ahahaha

anyway, d@mn asetek using Nirox Pump and relabeling it as Hydor L20....99.99% the same loh... minus the converter to 12v there...
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wah that auntie oso in watercooling meh? thumbup.gif thumbup.gif you should tell that auntie to join the forum laugh.gif

laugh.gif ya right dem Hydor for immitating the Nirox pump, should design their own, and lower the price tag,... whistling.gif whistling.gif .. errrr. ... or is it the other way around whistling.gif whistling.gif .. (j/k oni.. please do not confused who's immitating who)

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post Jan 16 2006, 03:38 PM

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QUOTE(moderno @ Jan 16 2006, 03:28 PM)
bro @amok : soalan bercita-cita tinggi sket tongue.gif
- since i've change to nirox p2800 there...think can support triple rad BIX 3 there?... provide that the nirox pump running slight greater Q than hydor L20 there... if same specs better for me sticking with the single rad right now.. huhu...
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bercita-cita tinggi?.. what's that? ambition ambition high? biggrin.gif (j/k)

I think Lans Corporal almostthere already stated that P2800 wont be enuf for a triple rad... but dunno if you're willing to do an experiment brows.gif using 2 x niroxp2800 brows.gif.. you'll get double the cheeszzzzz.. ph34r.gif..
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post Jan 16 2006, 03:44 PM

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QUOTE(ikan_semilang @ Jan 16 2006, 03:32 PM)
Enough if using this clip? sweat.gif

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Yup cable ties will do.. get plenty of em just in case wanna re-tube.. btw, that one looks sexay... mine oni the cheap white one. sweat.gif

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post Jan 17 2006, 12:59 PM

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QUOTE(moderno @ Jan 16 2006, 03:44 PM)
hurm..macam best jerk experiment nih...

so how's the configuration if putting 2 x nirox in the loop there?... 2 x nirox pump back to back before radiator?

nirox (1) --> nirox (2) ---> radiator ---> cpu ----> reservoir

nirox (1) --> radiator ---> nirox (2) --> cpu ---> reservoir

sorry if ala-ala noobie sket tongue.gif
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QUOTE(almostthere @ Jan 16 2006, 09:20 PM)
Moderno: Kalo nak pakai inline setup, aku cadangkan yang ko set camni

nirox 1 --> CPU --> nirox 2 --> rad --> res

Cos you need to overcome the resistance the BIP3 will cause since it's a triple row rad. Even as it is noticed a more consistent and slightly lower temps on my BIP just by changing to a 3m H/max pump you know
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Yup, it'll doubled you Hmax (head max) annen cost oso double lar.. but still viable.. 2 x P2800 < RM60.00... good news is that your set up can use with a restrictive w/blcok or rad with that kinda Hmax.. ~ >3.5m!!! and bear in mind you're dumping extra 56W to the loop.. whistling.gif .. but BIX3 we're talking about here...brows.gif

QUOTE(ianho @ Jan 16 2006, 11:28 PM)
Haha. U want sexy cable ties kar? Go ACE hardware, they even haf UVreactive colors man. Blue, yellow, green, pink semua ada.
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aiyaa cry.gif .. now must ask ACE hardware to open branch in Melaka... why melaka nobody wanna go? gathering all in K.L., Lanparty oso K.L., LYP oso K.L., KLCC oso K.L..... sien...w00t drool.gif pink kaler? wow.. wub.gif wub.gif brows.gif
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post Jan 19 2006, 08:29 PM

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ya lor.. moderno try wha sarjan suggested first annen oni look for new pump.

neway.. ever wonder how the Storm G4 perform with presc"hot"t? I've done some test with the Storm on a Press'Hot" proc yesterday and today... wanna know result? Don't want? ok lar nvm... blink.gif

Hehehehe, I'm telling you guys neway.. tongue.gif

ok.. first this is how it's looks like.

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aiyoo... so dull and boring... add uv sikit...

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tongue.gif chapalang tubing is uv reactive oso.. biggrin.gif

let's see what's under the hood.
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ok.. Storm on cpu, MCP650, 5 1/2" arcylic bay res, BIX2.. chapalang gas tubing (freshen out of aeroplane brand... and to skint to use my tygons)

Close up of the sexay w/block under uv.
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summore.. brows.gif

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ok.. enough of the bling-bling.. let's get to work.. after finish assembling (yesterday) I've left it on for about 1 day for leak testing.. so today tested ledi lor...

lesults....
Test rig.. P4 2.4A Prescott, 2 x D43 512KVR, Gecube 9600 pro extreme, enlight 350W psu ( sweat.gif ).. floppy drive, bla-bla-bla and so on.

Stock Idle.
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Stock Load
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and oc'ed idle
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ending.. oc'ed load
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.... okay, now to continue back where i left in the phase cooler project.. bye.

EDIT: thumbup.gif thumbup.gif This is the first time i've got anything below 48C load with my preschott biggrin.gif biggrin.gif tongue.gif laugh.gif

BY THE WAY.. PLEASE CHECK THIS OUT --->JENG JENG JENGGGGGG...

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post Jan 25 2006, 01:06 PM

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QUOTE(satanhead2003 @ Jan 23 2006, 04:48 PM)
wan to ask the sifu's n guru's. wat the diff wif powerhead n waterpump biasa? can use powerhead in closed loop ah?
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blink.gif errrr... pardon my noobiness, but whats a powerhead pump? Is it a submerged pump or pond pump or types of pump or brand of pump or.. ? aiyaaa carrraambbaaa... gong xi fa cai. biggrin.gif

metalzone bulkers.... show some results, pics, watever ler...
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QUOTE(LittleLinnet @ Jan 29 2006, 08:33 PM)
i would say just stick with ninja perhaps tongue.gif
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biggrin.gif I'd second that....

As far as BANG for BUCKS concerned, go with the ninja... wachaaaa..arigato gonzaimas.

GONG XI FA CAI.

c'mon2 metalzone bulker.... 2nd call.
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post Feb 4 2006, 02:24 AM

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QUOTE(lichyetan @ Jan 31 2006, 03:28 PM)
Hi everybody notworthy.gif , i really noob in WC, anyone know how to join the tubing properly, does it need any glue or special things? I brought a WC kit from ngbh bulk, planning to change the pump but lacking knowledge about taking out the tube and reapply properly to prevent leakage, is it just enough using cable tie to tied up the tube? plus, anyone know how to flush and refill the thing without reservoiur??? unsure.gif
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errr... 1st of all most of us are not familiar with that wc kit. So dunno if it would be much of a help here. But usually in most common casses, we use tubing clamps to tighten the tubes with the barbs... or use cable tie oni.

Flushing and refilling is an ancient art of watercooling passed down only from one generation to another via..... arrrrrghhh cut the crap. biggrin.gif sorry bout that biggrin.gif , here we use the term bleeding, how to do it? just pull one of the tubes that's connected to the barbs, oh don't ferget the pail if you don't wanna wet the floor.... if not using a resevoir, try a T joint to refill.

QUOTE(woopypooky @ Feb 3 2006, 11:25 PM)
I also got the syscooling package 3 fom ngbh. I didnt try to change the pump or water and so on. But i got one heck of trouble trying to install the heatsink to the chip. Apparently this cooling system is for Socket A and Pentium only. There no clip for S939. And the mount for the graphic chipset was too small for my graphic card and i got to make a mount of my own using aluminium tin.
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-sigh- .. I've heard bout this kit in the bulk section, it'd grown quite popular amongst the community, I was hoping to see some genuine result, heard it was promising.. could any of you user post some screenies or pics? share-share ler.

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QUOTE(woopypooky @ Feb 4 2006, 02:52 AM)
for cooling, it was promising. Before that my graphic card was 51C idle and 66C load, after installed it 42C idle and 48C load.
The only trouble is that the included mount is not suitable for S939 and bigger graphic card.
BTW how to capture screenies?
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wah that good ah?.. Sorry to hear bout the proc mounting, i'm keen to know about the proc cooling rather than gfx.

2. To capture screenies:-> press CTRL + PRTSCRN buttons on keyboard simultaneously open New Paint doc/image, then paste. Then crop or adjust. Then save as JPG or GIF or whatever you fancy. Then post... liao. How to post img? Read here ->LINK


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post Feb 4 2006, 09:05 PM

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QUOTE(LittleLinnet @ Feb 4 2006, 06:15 PM)
Capture screenies don't need to press CTRL also can one laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
Some more don't need to press simultaneously also can, just press once enougn. laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
However, you can press ALT + PRTSCRN to capture only the application window.
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biggrin.gif biggrin.gif .. well thank you... , if oni you'd posted earlier. rolleyes.gif whistling.gif


soooo...woopypooky, got any screenies?
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QUOTE(almostthere @ Feb 5 2006, 01:06 PM)
Sorry wasn't around for a bit but been busy with work. But here's what I've been working on. and this is at full load
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biggrin.gif whey... nice temps thumbup.gif...
O.T.: sudah balik macau? or still in KL.

QUOTE(woopypooky @ Feb 5 2006, 06:14 PM)
here is it.
http://ho5t.us/show.php?locm=3b87a3a5b6.jpg
cant post proc becos still cant figure out what to use as mount.
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blink.gif can try reposting it?..

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QUOTE(woopypooky @ Feb 7 2006, 12:45 AM)
sorry
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hei, looks like it did a good job on cooling the graphics card...

sorted the mounting prob on your cpu?
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QUOTE(Shah81 @ Feb 8 2006, 04:37 AM)

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edit: i'm going to lap my proc this weekend. i'll post the result when i'm done. hopefully the temp will drop even more. smile.gif
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Thanks for the info... and pic. Well, i wuz kinda wondering if its possible to snap a few close up pics of the radiator/heatxchanger.. seemed like its the main reason for the low temps, cause the pump~ nothing to brag about, waterblock ~ so and so oni. And as for the tubing, is it 1/2" ID? Oh btw, shah thanks alot for this thumbup.gif thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(Prokutiwuti @ Feb 8 2006, 09:46 AM)
I'm also use WC kit bought from ngbh bulk and yes, it's not suitable for socket939 on some mobo. Already spoilt my DFI infinity becoz of steel plat that put at the back of mobo.Sent for warranty claim yesterday  tongue.gif
So, I bought another DFI infinity board and use the backplate that comes with mobo and now everything works fine.
my idle temp for venice 3000+ E3 is 36C and 30C at night or cold day.
Will post pic asap.
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QUOTE(Shah81 @ Feb 8 2006, 04:14 PM)
the tubings is 1/4" ID btw. i've been saving money to buy a good wc kit but only manage to save enough to buy a maze 4 cpu block. but for the same amount of money i can buy this full set wc kit. laugh.gif

the performance of the wc kit is equal (or better in cold day) with my previous XP90+a high cfm fan. but with the wc kit, the is no more jet engine sound under my desk biggrin.gif and plus it cools my gpu too. thumbup.gif
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guys.. thanx for the pics.. yup as suspected, its a two pass double rows flat tube rad.. same as BIX, and good move you've made when changing into a higher cfm fan Shah.

Impressive... apart from the 1/4" OD barb on the rad... mebbe can fix a 1/2" OD barb when later ugrading the waterblock.. no worries..

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