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post Feb 11 2006, 03:06 PM

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QUOTE(uzairi @ Feb 10 2006, 07:06 PM)
Hello everyone.. Just managed to grab hold all of my stuff this week. Stay tuned for my results. Hehe..
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finally someone from metalzone bulk... okay. hurry up with the results and setup pics (with ya new stacker brows.gif)
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post Feb 13 2006, 12:35 PM

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QUOTE(Prokutiwuti @ Feb 9 2006, 07:17 PM)
Got converter from 1/4" to 1/2"? Izzit will reduce performance?
Will save some money for pump,waterblock and reservoir soon... tongue.gif
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Performance wise of the rad.. think it's safe to say will not differ much, performanc of the whole w/cooling systems, depends on the resistivity/restrictivity of the block, pump heads, loop lengths, etc. etc. you see watercooling wasn't just an out of the box all is orait thinggy.. it's an art of tweaking, customizing and pairing/combo of parts and tubes displacements... but now you'll already past the newbie w/cooling wetness, let me really welcome you the wet side of the force thumbup.gif thumbup.gif

QUOTE(Shah81 @ Feb 9 2006, 09:49 PM)

idle:

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load (30min prime):

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wohooooooo!! my pressh0t is cool  laugh.gif
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biggrin.gif not bad at all, errr, seriously it's the first time u using AS5 accordingly?

QUOTE(uzairi @ Feb 12 2006, 03:33 AM)
Hehe.. blush.gif Will do..
Dont say 1337 lah, paiseh leh.. BTW mine 486DX oni..  doh.gif  u guys 486DX-M lah....  notworthy.gif .. Nice to be with u guys back..  flex.gif 

p/s: Just realised that u were a staff now. Congrats to u sargeant.  notworthy.gif  thumbup.gif
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wei.. hurry up lar with the result.. and pics. drool.gif drool.gif
QUOTE(Prokutiwuti @ Feb 12 2006, 09:46 PM)
Guys, just wanna ask..

issit possible to put 2 pump or 2 radiator into 1 colling system?
hehehe,,,just want to know wether it will increase or decrease the performance...hehehe
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Possible? yes... bear in mind the word "OVERKILL".. the purpose of having a dual or tripple radiator or pump is to get the right equation in getting rid of the heat load from a system.. alas comes the c/w, the rate heat dissipated per sec or minute... but it all comes down to the ambient temp in which is the lowest temps the bestest, terrorrest, marvelousest watercooling set/kit can give... which to date is still non existant. I mean there is no point of having a triple heatercore just to cool of a 200W cpu.. it's just a waste of space, time and money.

QUOTE(almostthere @ Feb 13 2006, 04:06 AM)
I belot edi laa dude, ask amok why la. Anyway thanks for the congrats ucai
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Ya lor, the 486DX clan now need a new chairman. The last chairman converted ledi... just because he bought two sticks of 1G ram that kenot tweak to the max with his 486DX.. doh.gif doh.gif , huh, what a sorry sore @ss excuse to convert. whistling.gif .. neway congrats sargeant of the promotion thumbup.gif jgn. mare. brows.gif
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post Feb 16 2006, 04:39 PM

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QUOTE(uzairi @ Feb 16 2006, 03:17 PM)
So what he's using right now ? Wondering..  blink.gif
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a triple core cpu. Triple X rated one... lots of udang. biggrin.gif ucai, can show pics of your res? Legends says that you've modded a Glade refil container into a cylindrical res which almost similar to hollowbean's. brows.gif show it here lar.

QUOTE(hollowbean @ Feb 16 2006, 04:11 PM)
Now i almost able to gather all my wc stuff, and currently running a leak test for 24hrs.
The DDC pump which i already installed KP top, i dont see any aparent improvement.
Can i use a pressure gauge to measure to collect some data?

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ohmy.gif .. wow.. i'm with sargeant.. where can we get that res? Pleeaasssseeee.

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post Feb 22 2006, 12:34 AM

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QUOTE(hollowbean @ Feb 21 2006, 07:42 PM)
Great!  thumbup.gif
finally, finished setup for my first loop.

DDC pump---> Coolwave 120.2 rad---> Alphacool NexXxos XP--->Reservoir

Opty 170 2.8g@1.35v
Idle: 37'C
Load:46'C (stressPrime)
room:32'C
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great... now oni need a casing.. heheh, btw, mebbe you can shorten the line a bit, might gain a few cm heads.
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post Feb 25 2006, 11:24 PM

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wada i miss wada i miss? TJye, screen shot, cpuz + mbm5(or whatever that shows Vcore + temps) please..
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post Feb 26 2006, 11:10 PM

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QUOTE(MetalZone @ Feb 26 2006, 03:54 AM)
its a DangerDen double heatercore. not a BIX2.
averagely overclocked.
however, i feel the temps should be even lower.
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Yup should be lower, then again I've used the DD double hc b4, and there are a few things that you should take into consideration when using the double HC.

1. Surface area for heat transfer for the double HC is very VERY HUGE... which comes to choosing the right fan for heat transfer efficiency... I'd had to use a 75cfm fan at least.. then 2 x 120mm fans still wouldn't cover all the area of the HC, thus comes suggestion no 2 below.

2. HC is not a rad... you'll need shrouds, to focus the air through those thin flat tubes and not creating turbulance or any back pressure that oni circulates hot air.

3. as always I'll ask for pics, hard to diagnose anything without pics of setup.

meanwhile, just wait for the thermal past to fix, then lesse what the readings are.
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post Mar 14 2006, 10:51 AM

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QUOTE(ianho @ Mar 13 2006, 05:17 PM)
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errr... nice paint job ianho...

Tubings could be improve. Too much G-force for the pump to handle... loosing unnecessary heads.

MY 2 sen oni. whistling.gif
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post Mar 21 2006, 08:11 PM

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QUOTE(zahri @ Mar 20 2006, 01:02 PM)
I however did find.
an Immersible pump , brand is LOHAN KING , QMAX is 1.5 or 1.8 m , its 1500 L/H
for RM 46 ?
any comments ?
i think i shud just get the nirox from someone in KL. biggrin.gif
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For the pump Qmax 1500L/H, Hmax 1.5m one, can you get the power consumption e.g. 50Watt, 70Watt, 28Watt.. if the pump needs more than 50Watt, then ferget about it.. just get the nirox p2800, it'll get the job done.

QUOTE(MetalZone @ Mar 21 2006, 06:26 PM)
If you guys need the Nirox P2800 you can pm me. I have some extra stock for sale.
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Well brother waterer, when is the surprise w/cooling kit preview? brows.gif
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post Mar 21 2006, 08:57 PM

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QUOTE(kingmaker_20 @ Mar 21 2006, 08:32 PM)
Bro amok,Nirox P2800 enough oomph... for super bikes radiator or not rclxs0.gif
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tongue.gif can:D .. match it wif a low resistance block... then put in air cond room brows.gif sure geng... no seriously... can geng (even without the air cond room)
QUOTE(zahri @ Mar 21 2006, 08:42 PM)
@amok,

yeah bro, i decided to get the nirox , easier. biggrin.gif

@metalzone,

i wanted to get the hydrX from u.

still available ?
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bro ferget to ask, you're planning to use it wif what water block.

O.T.... LONG LIVE DIY WATERER
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post Mar 21 2006, 09:24 PM

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QUOTE(zahri @ Mar 21 2006, 09:01 PM)
ermm...

bro amok,

currently my rig is using the thermaltake waterblock.

i am thinking of changing it, any recommendations ?

my cousin is coming back from the states next month, maybe i wud pesan from her or just buy it and have it shipped to MAlaysia.

anyone done this before ?
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err.. bro, it all depends on yer budget, I wud suggest the STORM G4, but it's quite hefty.. cause it needs a high Heads pump to match with... which is quite hefty oso. sad.gif and the cheap ones(pump) had a lot of thermal dump issue to the loop..

Well, metalzone is our current xtreme watercooling bulker right now, and there are some interesting choices that you can pick from his bulk.

Why not save a little and wait for Metalzone's Maniac Watercooling Combo that beat the crap out of all the taiwanese kit (sorry mod, you're free to edit this cause i've got carried away) to arrive in a few weeks time.. I hope.. (bro david you'd better ready with the kit, i've put my a$$ on the line here bro).
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QUOTE(zahri @ Mar 21 2006, 09:33 PM)
@amok,
bro, any waterblock that can match with the nirox, the best waterblock that can suit with the nirox p2800 .

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errr... if i'm not mistaken look for those low resistivity block such as MCW6002, apogee, maze 4, somewhere along that line.. please refer to the watercooling guide's sticky/pinned thread, i'm sure there's an answer there...


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QUOTE(zahri @ Mar 21 2006, 10:00 PM)
ok,

i just checked metalzone's bulk.

the storm g4 is confirm way out of budget...

maybe the apogee or AquaXtreme MP-05 SP LE

or DD Copper TDK.

those are in the budget. biggrin.gif

thanks bro amok... biggrin.gif
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bro TDK or RBX is not one of em for the nirox......
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post Apr 25 2006, 08:31 AM

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shah81 rclxms.gif rclxms.gif .. well done man.. sargeant told me about this and I'm here to racun you sum more.

You see most of us watercoolers doesnt have the moolah to start off this watercooling hobby with a 12VDC pump... hell even when I start off, I'm just using a 240V, 8W, 300Lph, 0.8MQmax.. siamese pump...

Thus comes the needs/demand for a auto switching AC pump. The criticool's is waayyy above our heads..

Now you've came out with the schematics and wiring diagrams it really help us all (the rectifier thing is really cool, i've never thought of that).

But unfortunately not most of us can read those diagram.. so like sargeant said... "Do provide the service to this community".. and earn a bit while in the way brows.gif

and by the way.. those from Mzone bulkers.. where's the results? espcially those "budget kit".
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QUOTE(Shah81 @ Apr 25 2006, 03:36 PM)
those lighted switch can be a little bit expensive....but the black ones are ok i guess......but if you want some bling bling i can add and LED. but it will serve as an indicator for the relay, not the pump.

i guess i'm going to build one "Engineering Sample" before i open up a thread in Garage Sales. expect to see one in 2 days. (this ES will have an unlocked multiplier up to 25X.....hehehehe....just kidding laugh.gif )

i will not mass produce this relay box. it will be base on order. but maybe i'll need 2 or 3 order to start working. this will cut the transportation cost.
thanks for the support man. icon_rolleyes.gif when the relay box is out, you and almostthere should be my first customer. icon_idea.gif 
yeah...i'm also interested to see the result of those "budget kit". really wanna buy those but got no moolah....stuck with my syscooling.
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QUOTE(DaBaD @ Apr 25 2006, 11:37 PM)
It's Pump-Waterblock-radiadtor

Well using an opty the results were shocking  shocking.gif

Using my XP90C on my venice at 1.65v only gave a max temp of 48C

But, using an opty at ONLY 1.4v gave a reading of 51-52C and the OC was not stable  rclxub.gif

Thats the reason i wanted a WC kit, now i want better temps tongue.gif hehehe
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ok lar.. i support oso from behind.....


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post May 4 2006, 05:27 PM

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shah@ good mod bro, keep um coming.. try modding a resevoir from glade's car freshner refil tube like zahri's and add bling-bling sikit... (leds, fans, etc.)


zahri@ sorry to say this but P2800 wont cut for a dual rad system.. too big restriction... the water will just "meleleh" oni.
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uzai@ pam problem settle led?

ianho@ nice mod man.. mebbe can custom made some top for DDMaze4 and make it universal mounting. (old skool block user here)

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to tell y'all the truth..... I'M TOTALLY LOST!!!.... so stop hurting me and yourselves.

Question by mADmAN = comparing 2 barbs with 3 barbs waterblocks... which is better/preferred and why?

I'd rather you'd compare the water block resistivity-> water contacts rather than numbers of barbs... cause there's no definite answer if comparing barbs.. it's the w/block(design for heat transfer via surface area -> c/w) that determine the best blocks...some blocks design uses 2 OUTFLOW barbs cause (in simple PLAIN INGGERIS) to create a lower pressure point than the INFLOW... elementary fluid dynamics... water flow from high pressure to low pressure... so in theory the more the OUTFLOW barbs the merrier it is... right? hehehe there's more to it than that. read on

In some design, geniuses uses the INFLOW pressure not oni for jet impingement effect but simultaneously creating turbulance to further increase the surface contacts with thermal median.. turbulance will oso dampen the kinetics of flow which in turn lowering pressure of flow (a good example is the G4 block... the cups, channeling and such).. thus a single OUTFLOW barbs is adequate, without sacrificing the thermal transfer efficiency.

but.. imagine if the G4 uses a dual/triple/quadruple barbs OUTFLOW.... brows.gif okay ladies, some food for thouhgt.. lemme know what you ladies think and why.. I think that's a healtier reply post rather than spam like post... (no offence).
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ucai@.. try finding Laing retailer, mebbe can order/repair parts from them.

Good News to all Water Cooler Enthusiast.

Now we have another supplier whose bringin in Danger Den Products to this Forum.

So lets Recap:

1. Danger Dinster's Danger Den's Watercooling supply.

2. Metalzone's Maniac Swiftech Supplies

hehehe just like WWE Monday Night RAW... so ladies, get your watercooling kit from em...

ps. (hint, hint, check out Danger Din's budget kit drool.gif )

edit/O.T.: so now it's my turn to spam. whistling.gif , fair what.

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QUOTE(sniper on the roof @ Jun 15 2006, 11:43 PM)
Hahaha...after all these months (literally...almostthere can attest to it tongue.gif ), finally pasang my stuff.

Tunjuk ajar are most welcomed for this noobie.

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Neway any temps results wanna show off? or... still havin problems on the mounting?

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