Bigwater non-se have pump failure problem??
is it true?? luckily i have no problem with it...

if u r free enough to change water regularly, u may try using a watercooling kit... if not, u better stick with air cooling....

lol...air besar running in my barton system 24/7
no problem til 3month....

Just make sure ure Airbesar don't actually buang airbesar on ure rig. Hahahahahaa.

dont kutuk 3/8" tubing size la.. my asetek waterchill also use that size but perform better than some pre made wc kit with 1/2" tube

tt airbesar use 1/4" if i not mistaken...

This post has been edited by irenic: Aug 14 2005, 04:53 PM

Ok, I'm corrected over that matter. And yes, 3/8" not bad also. In fact the Europeans prefer to use that as it's a good compromise between flow rate restriction and airflow restriction if based on what I've seen so far actually. However, Cathar in Xtreme has recommended a new type of tubing which I'm not pretty clear about which is about 3/8" ID but has some property's similiar to TYgon's and has rather a smooth inner wall surface. But I'd bet that sort of tubing would cost a bomb

And ianho, I'd suggest you have a look at these charts

thx for da info.. how bout hydor L35? i just thinking to buy that pump to replace my hydor L20..

Hydor L35? Hmmm....I'd be very careful in choosing that as the heat dump from the pump itself (Going by the known feedback of the Nirox P5800..I think cos allngap used it to test his WC kit) is quite a fair amount and would be of major consideration before trying it

For a second opinion, have a look at this topic at xtreme by Maxxracer about pumps

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=41495

how bout if i blow a fan direct to the pump?

The question is how much the water is heated up by the pump when at normal operation speeds. The pump's heat as in physically can be solved but as to the introduction of that heat into the loop is another.

owh ic.. hmm

btw i cant open the link u gave above..

and i have a problem which is totally out of topic, but i hope i can asked from help from any of u guys here since this is one the 'still' active topic for tonite..

i just bought a thermaltake aquabay mr1 coz i like it looks, so after installing the tube, i decided to run a leak test for several hours. since all the waterblock is inside the pc, and i was lazy to remove them, i short my psu 24pin cable (pin 13 n 14) but i forgot to unplug molex for other hardware. then i ran it and after an hour no problem occurred. so i switch off my psu then a 'pop' sound heard.. i feel worried so i switched on my psu again n my psu kaboom and smoke came out from it
then i went to see dinster to borrow his psu (thx alot to him), and i quickly connect ONLY gfx, harddisk, watercooling pump and motherboard to the psu. all other things (ccfl, casing fan, optical drive) are still connected to my kaboom psu.

then i switch on my using dinster's psu and everything runs fine.. but the weird thing is, the ccfl, casing fan, optical drive, all run like usual.. like there is power connect to them why ek? huhu

OK, one time only OT reply, it's possible that the 12v and the 5v rails are still unharmed but it's possible that the 3.3v is a goner or one or a few pins of the 24 pin molexed blew edi. You have to narrow down the possible damages using a DMM

Hello, i'm back.For those asking bout where i heard the high failure rate of Bigwater's pump, i read it from the OCParadise's forum. Since i got here, i'm willing to share something with you all.

Actually i'm one of those early users of water cooling, remenber Senfu? I used their first WC kit, but before that, i've made my own waterblock, fashioned from a couple of 1cm ID copper tubing. It's quite effective, could reduce the temp of stock K6-2 usual hsf ( who care about their hsf those days?) by more than 9c. That time i'm in secondary school, and together with a few friends, we displayed the homemade cooling at our science fair. Needless to say, most visitor didn't even knew we need a fan to cool our processor. Back then radiator is unnecessary, you could run the water off a bucket and the water will only get slightly warm after half days of gaming (half-life and counter-strike) Ah, those good old days, where processors were so cool....

Anyway, i quit using Watercooling after buying the Senfu because it scuks big time. If there's a worst industrial design award, Senfu WC Kit will be the first prize award. Imagine using a aluminium base, copper fin water block. The waterblock literally corrodes itself away, and not to mention the terrible cooling temp. My homemade copper piping waterblock is much better at cooling than the senfu waterblock. Finally i stop using it and replace my cooler to aircooling, my first cooler is Volcano 7+, cooling is good but the noise is terrible. I sold the cooler after 1 week, and had been using a Globalwin CaK4-88t until now, occasionally buying new fans, currently using Volcano12 extreme fan, because the Globalwin heatsink is still better than the Volcano12 heatsink. Imagine the heatsink cycled through the 4 complete pc upgrades i did in the past 2 years!!

Since i'd used the Globalwin for so long, i'm itchy to get a new cooler again. So, not willing to repeat the experience i've had with Senfu, i'm really pushing reliability as the main factor when i want to choose a cooler.

I think most people will switch back to aircooling after they grow out of their overclocking sickness, until watercooling had more to offer for their reliability and price.

P/s: I still have the Senfu waterblock with me, anyone willing to buy it for their pc museum?

This post has been edited by ernie ball: Aug 19 2005, 02:04 PM

That depends on how commited one can be to the concept of WC'ing. Reliabillity, availabillity , and the abundance of users being able to share their experiences have made more and more users stay onto WC'ing even the compliacations arise as there's always someone willing to help to keep our addiction strong.n Speaking of addiction, I wish dinster's supplier wasn't such an a$$ and get those Storm G4's shipped ASAP

guys guys guys....

check this out: http://www.overclockers.com/tips1211/

the system got no pump!
use tec summore

is it just based on the concept that hot water go up, cold water go down?

interesting....
thought about that before(without pump) but without the tec...

the thermosyphon is indeed interesting but the only problem is on how to suck out all the air inside and make it airtight.

hm.... seems like have to soak the whole unit into a big pail of coolant and run the pump and everything inside the coolant then remove the pump and connect back the tube after all the air is gone

sounds silly but thats wut i think how it will work....

hey....anyone has any info on the vantec WC kit? price? availability? and most importantly reviews?

http://www.vantecusa.com/products/stg100/p_stg100.html

Bosses.... apa bikin?

The vantec look quite cantik at first glance leh. Scary part is just alu rad + copper block only.

Senang cerita, wait for online reviews or from someone who's using it since right now, not much info on it, no pics of the blocks design and the pumps a Hydor L20