Discussion about watercooling and the results, Version 2
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 Oct 3 2005, 07:59 PM
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QUOTE(TJye @ Oct 3 2005, 07:27 PM) amok: reinforcement? where? I think he means our secret weapon and his a$$ which has been MIA for quite some time. The "Prof" should be back on full duty during this Ramadhan unless he gets too drowsy with his bukak puasa and sahur binges  |
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Oct 4 2005, 12:50 PM
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All I can say is this, at any GPM rate one has in terms of pump usage, you'd still see huge gains in terms of delta values. However a question remains as to the effect of heat dump by the pump towards the block and it's implications towards it. But hey with a Delta value drop of by 4 compared to a Maze 4, who's gonna whine about it?
But I'd say the sweet point in terms of flowrates would be around the 1.5gpm mark as beyond that would be more difficult/expensive to achieve in the frist place. A D5 and overvolting it comes into mind but if you're not gonna be bench crazy, your common Nirox P2800's/Hydor L20 and and Laing MCP 350's would be more then upto task with it. Just don't mention Bigwater's pump  |
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Oct 10 2005, 09:45 PM
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QUOTE(amok @ Oct 10 2005, 02:02 AM)  .. yup even a RM28.00 Nirox P2800 pump will do good with the G4..As uzairi mentioned it is ok. but what is your clock at that temp? |
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Oct 17 2005, 07:28 PM
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QUOTE(minizian @ Oct 17 2005, 07:26 PM) so which brand should i go for I'd say either the swiftech's and the GBT...other's don't bother...you'd be wondering what's the fuss about with WC'ing if u used those TT,GBT,Swiftech and bla bla bla |
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Oct 18 2005, 08:15 PM
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QUOTE(sniper on the roof @ Oct 18 2005, 05:46 PM) SEPAM: And sucessfully bid for it I might add...about RM200/= only Boys and gurls... d sniperz coming to the wet side. Just ordered me a Storm   .Now for the pump, rad, tubes, cklamps, coolant and the res |
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Oct 19 2005, 08:42 PM
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Heheheehheheehe TJye and amok...just a teaser for you guys since it's a few more days before we pick these up
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Oct 20 2005, 02:02 PM
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TJye...since I'm a freaking cheapskate, gonna stick to aquarium pumps and so far, the best compromise interms of heat Vs. flowrate perftormance has been the Nirox P2800 for me so gonna stick to that as since my head pressure loss WILL be nvery minimal.
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Oct 20 2005, 05:14 PM
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QUOTE(TJye @ Oct 20 2005, 04:43 PM) Probably I would stick to cheapo pump for the mean time I'm there as he plans to COD at mid valley where I'm worjking part time for now later if the GPU block is here then only I would order a pump along... To those who bought stuff from din's bulk, he is having a COD on the weekend of 27th in KL.... I would personally go there and get the g4 from him.... anyone else is going there? /me sniggers |
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Oct 21 2005, 03:50 PM
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TJye what happened to mthe heat exchanger project you were thinking of doing? amok got around so can ask him for help too. Hear those lil tubes of aluminium do help quite a bit
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Oct 22 2005, 08:18 PM
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QUOTE(amok @ Oct 21 2005, 10:52 PM) Ya.. what heatxchange? share a bit la. We're talking about these amok   But instead of aluminium we were thinking of copper and maybe painted with paint to prevent oxidisation externally, and my owh suggestion, finer fins. Would be excellent for doing a pump -> radiator -> block -> res setup whereby one can cool down the water as it flows out of the block before pumped back into the loop. That's my idea which I want to test actually. Any lubang for you fabricate a small batch of these over at your place amok? |
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Oct 23 2005, 07:36 PM
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Yeah, that's what I have in mind as I'm thinking of ways to further dissipate the heat retained in the loop so as to maximise heat abosrbtion rate of the water priot to entry into waterblock
BTW: added some interesting articles taken from XS which should prove to be useful for WC'ers who need a quick guide every once in a while and arghhh.....makes me tempted to get a D5 and a BIX 2  |
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Oct 25 2005, 12:27 PM
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QUOTE(De_Cruelz @ Oct 24 2005, 10:34 PM) WOW! Very nice setup you got alsmostthere. Probably one of the cleanest water cooled rigs i've seen in a long time Sorry to say but that's not my rig de_cruelz but working on it and don't worry, I think I'm more then sane enough to realise what's efficient and what's not While your setup looks extremely good, I think plumbing the tubes a little might help keep the flowrate up? Perhaps placing the pump exactly where it is now would help quite a bit? It'd be a pretty tight fit but its not impossible. Oh yeah, good to see the community still going strong around here  QUOTE(TJye @ Oct 25 2005, 01:13 AM) Pornstar: I think ray99mond is selling BIX2 if not mistaken,bout a month ago but his thread got missing, so I don't know is the BIXII sold or not. Will await fi\urther updates from you, I suggest you collaborate with amok more on this actually since he'd have contactsalmostthere:I think I will use the stuff I learn in UNI to calculate a few times on the best design based on copper. IMO the fins are as thin as they can be on the aluminum sample, if not it will not conduct heat that well to its surface, since its a free convection, and the convection would most probably to happen most rapidly on the tip and area near the tip. I will research on that as soon as my finals is over and back them with a throuhout calcualtion. Anyone else got any opinion on optimizing the inline heat exchanger please do point out and when a finalize design is made, probably ppl that are intrested can get one for themself. QUOTE(amok @ Oct 25 2005, 08:50 AM) Hrm.. for finer fins and greater surface area we'll need a CNC machine, unfortunately for me, i'm no longer with the uni so no machine shop ler.. if use just ordinary milling mach, ergh can't get a super fine fins. Let me check out those private machine shops around Melaka and see what it'll come out with. Tolong carik laa boss......aku tau ko ada lobang lagik nih...jangan nak rendah diriit would work great...  , providing casing temp doesnt heat up the HX instead . By the way isn't it a swifty rad box in the pics? the one that's been used to "tie" the rad + rad box + casing.?Hey De_Cruelz, welcome back, long time no post, how's yer watercooled SLI? i'm not sure the pic sarge's posted is his rig though but it does give me some rough ideas on how i'm gonna set up my STORM rig |
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Oct 25 2005, 01:15 PM
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QUOTE(De_Cruelz @ Oct 25 2005, 12:48 PM) Hehe thanks amok! Now everyone can get the best in water cooling with Swifty's mass production of the Storms Need to work on getting together the finances for an A64 rig now then will start getting busy with it. Another Storm user too (Can't let you have all the glory you know SLI rig is doing pretty darn well. Haven't been playing much games but working on Photoshop and Illustrator has proved to be much much faster than my previous rig. Haven't done a whole lot of gaming either due to work and other interests. almostthere, good point hehe Looking forward to see your rig fully setup. One thing nice about having the pump up there is how much you can really plumb those tubes. Currently even with SLI, I think the current setup uses about the same amount of tubing as when I had my P160. ). But now need to look for anyone who's willing part exchange with me a BIX with my BIP as by then I'm thinking of maximising the loops efficiency for what it's worth. If anyone of you is in the know, please PM me about it. Want to have a final go on my MPMW before it gets pushed off later on |
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Oct 25 2005, 06:58 PM
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QUOTE(De_Cruelz @ Oct 25 2005, 04:35 PM) Hehe don't worry! With the mass production of Storms, everyone will get a hand at the best in CPU water cooling Initial plan is to cool the proc first and later if I'm not satisfied with the planned GPU's clock speeds on air then will consider WC'ing the GFX's core too...Will have to see how as I move alongBtw, you planning to cool only the CPU in your upcoming rig? |
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Oct 27 2005, 07:44 PM
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WANTED: A HWLabs Black Ice Xtreme heater core, will part exchange with a Black Ice Pro and add up another RM50 to make up for the difference. Please PM me if in the know....damned desperate for one now
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Oct 28 2005, 12:10 PM
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QUOTE(amok @ Oct 27 2005, 07:58 PM) Lalalalalalala... Let's see, you've got the bulkhy and the DD douible heater core...got pic or not? After pics we'll talk  .. let me see what do I have in stock..1. Bulkhy rads 3/8" OD 2. Bulkhy rads 1/2" OD 3. DD Double heatercore 1/2" OD 4. BLACK ICE XTREME II 1/2" OD 5. OP's copper tube rad 3/8" opss sorry no BIX in hand... lalalallalaa  |
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Oct 29 2005, 02:01 PM
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Gulp....bulhy's nyer all pretty messed up condition for now
and the BIX2 surely out of my budget even for part-exchange |
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Oct 29 2005, 05:24 PM
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Muahahahaha...pimping time
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Oct 29 2005, 07:30 PM
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QUOTE(amok @ Oct 29 2005, 07:26 PM) w00t!!!! Mungkin tak kot pasal Poslaju closed for raya starting Monday amok. So for the time being, me and TJye are the only one's in possesion of the Storm. Prodi9y dunno where he went ... planet betul!!!!... guess it's time to soaked up the BIX II.. mine should be arriving next week... |
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Oct 30 2005, 04:00 PM
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QUOTE(TJye @ Oct 30 2005, 03:10 PM) No pump for me yet..... Rig back in Melaka leh...how to do any testing for now? haven't gone shopping for it.. Got exams recently Lets seee almosthere got anything to post or not |
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