1) Is it possible to increase my car's performance up to 150bhp without turbocharging? Which one is more cost effective.. turbocharging or N/A?
yes, u can... but performance to cost for N/A far higher than turbocharging... RM10k for N/A around 140whp - 150whp... RM8k for turbo u get 180whp, spend 2k for full UR bar set (around RM1.5k for full set)...

2) I'm also looking at increasing the braking power of the car. Been looking at both Brembo and Endless. But I need some idea on the price first. Not to sure where else I can go to do my research so anyone knows if these two a good brand?
change to better aftermarket disc and caliper.. there're many available for proton campro

3) The new R3 Rims here looks very nice. Is this a lightweight rims or not?? Will changing to these rims affect my performance?

http://www.mudah.my/Sport+Rim+Original+R3+...nze-8773798.htm
it's cheaper to buy non-R3 product, but if u hav the money and realli like it, why not?

4) Turbocharging... is it a good idea? I've heard of Xenon's kit: http://www.camproturbo.com/ . But ofcourse I would prefer an unbiased opinion here first before I head there where the opinions will definitely be 'all good'.
i've spend 1 month to explore the whole camproturbo forum and asking around about it. and i cant find any other brand that can deliver such a good package for S4PE/S4PH... they hav name in the campro mod arena... u can ask around and meet the customer in person to get their testimonial... xenon's customers r friendly and they willing to help and explain if we need it... and xenon's package comes with 1 year warranty...

p/s: actually i shud hav mine installed last week but since i hav some urgent pc supply project, i used my camproturbo money 1st, payment in 2 weeks time and then i will cont again my project...

ppl may see my post as fanboism and biased... i juz wanna share wat i know...

This post has been edited by omara86: Mar 18 2011, 04:28 PM

Port&polish RM950, Mild High Cam RM1600, 2nd hand Unichip+Tuning RM1400(if not emanage w/ tuning RM1350), piston set RM600, NA exhaust not more than RM600. Then full campro Turbo BOT cost not more than RM5000. Please survey before blindly guessing...

And minor correction..this car don't do it's pistons..still the same piston.

Yes the price could be expensive than turbo sytem but NA is the best for campro while no campro engine survive in good flying colour with Turbo bolt-on.

This post has been edited by b48753: Mar 18 2011, 05:40 PM

That is roughly around 135WHP and 15++kg of wheel torque which is exactly correct

This post has been edited by shinjite: Mar 18 2011, 05:20 PM

Actually it's making 150whp...

Means it will be more than 169HP on engine~~
Definitely the cams are damn high

Since u have the gen2.. why not join the www.gen2club.com forum ... can gain info & members from there..

here is the dyno from 1 of the members.. NA



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Yo, what was the rpm like?

dunno.. maybe the owner can explain how.. or kept his secret.. he's also /k/

see if he notice this thread

Actual whp is 153, while bhp 169..coz it's manual tranny

If you want you can drive to R3 and they can mod for you with quality parts and a proper job

dude...that pic is a hoax...originally it was 82.1whp i photoshopped it to let the joke runs within our circle ONLY...

this is the original pic



he got that result from a wrongly tuned standalone...

9.5% loss? That is low indeed....wonder what kind of manual tranny is he using?

Yes.. sort of. The pay is good but you practically have no life at all.

I am thinking the same thing. I would very much prefer the N/A route for now.

I've heard of the Dori-Dori Autoworks...
The problem though is that I live in Bandar Bahru, Kedah. It's a bit far to go to Dori-Dori Autoworks or any other shops in Selangor and Kuala Lumpur.

If I were to go there... I'd prefer took a week off.. go there have a holiday for a day or two.. and have it done all at the same time. This way I won't have to continuously go to KL whenever I want to add something.

Thanks for the recommendation though.. appreciate it

Seriously?? So this car do have the potential for almost 200Nm... and a healthy 169bhp on N/A. That's good to know. Thanks for the input.


I am going to assume that you are talking about Xenon's Turbokit??

You sure his turbocharging kit complete set ready to drive on the road is only RM8,000?? I heard it goes all the way up to RM 12,000 and RM 13,000 complete with everything (management etc so the reliability issues won't appear later). Or is it RM 8,000 without management??


Seriously dude??

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Added on March 18, 2011, 6:47 pmwow.. what did he do on his car??

This post has been edited by Fendizy85: Mar 18 2011, 06:47 PM

Fendizy85, I've listed what has been just now..infact this car was tuned by Dori-Dori..I am the friend of the Dori-Dori owner cum his agent lols..

For your info the Campro engine can't run over 7500rpm cause the spring valve can't take it. Even running with special tuned sring also will give problems later on the engine head (the spring will touch on engine head wall) which is hazardrous to engine later.

This post has been edited by b48753: Mar 18 2011, 07:04 PM

@Fendizy85 - xenon quoted me RM6k for camproturbo complete set, I add another RM2k for management, planning to get haltech interceptor piggyback, around RM1.5k only... 2nd hand around RM800... My budget is RM10k, including UR bar set and brake upgrade...

As for the reliability, i asked so many of his previous customer.. from exora, waja campro, gen2, persona, satria and saga... all of them giving positive feedback, some of them used it for 2 yrs alrdy, driving KL - Penang every week, KL - T'ganu... they convoy KL - Perlis...

there are cases of phailed project, but it's not Xenon's fault, because the customer install xenon's set, and after few month, wanna push more power, doing own mod and setting at other workshop without xenon's knowledge.. when something bad happened, kantoi..

the bolt on turbo from xenon is not the same for every car, customize set for every customer, that's why they call their package as xenon camproturbo instead of xenon bolt on turbo, because they're specialize in campro... eventho the same model, he applied diff setting, depend on what do u want in ur car... when u approach him, he will do a short interview to determine what kind of setting to be done...

some workshop do offer cheap setup, RM3.5k can get alrdy, but u will become the bengkel's lab rat... the camproturbo boost from 0.4 - 0.7 for default engine component... no other modification needed, stock piston, crank, injector, everything... juz install the package and get ur own management (piggyback or standalone)... the most recommended is Haltech Sprint 500, but gila mahal, for piggyback, Haltech Interceptor is no. 1 in the list..

This post has been edited by omara86: Mar 18 2011, 07:42 PM

The turbo kit is together with internal part eg. forged piston etc.?

nope, no internal modification needed, unless u really wanna go for real racing performance which is diff package... i cant explain so much here later ppl will say i promote kaw2... i juz wanna share the good thing by our local ppl... for more info.. go to the website/forum --> http://www.camproturbo.com

edit: btw sori for short incomplete reply in the quoted text... i was typing in my iphone until i find it very annoying to type very long text, i juz post it short and cont typing from pc... sori, heheheheh...

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Added on March 18, 2011, 7:56 pmthese are the cars which running xenon camproturbo with stock engine internal part...
by the look ppl wont know they hav monster's heart inside...

Waja CPS


Satria Neo CPS


Gen2


Exora


This post has been edited by omara86: Mar 18 2011, 08:03 PM

1) Is it possible to increase my car's performance up to 150bhp without turbocharging? Which one is more cost effective.. turbocharging or N/A?
YES,you can get 150bhp on campro + N/A
The highest power i had saw is N/A Gen 2 which make 190bhp
Bolt On car(header,exhaust,intake,unichip piggyback) will net you about 140bhp or so
While cam will bring it more or less 155bhp
Then VTEC Intake Manifold(B Series one) will net 170bhp or so


This post has been edited by OC4/3: Mar 18 2011, 08:40 PM

That waja is running 180hp on standalone.

BOT with 0.5 - 0.7 bar boost will give out 170 - 180 whp bro...