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Official Microsoft Windows Vista Discussion Thread, Strictly NO warez discussion

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post Mar 4 2007, 01:15 PM

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QUOTE(dattebayo @ Mar 4 2007, 01:24 AM)
you better remove the link, no warez is allowd here sweat.gif


Added on March 4, 2007, 1:25 am
try getting the latest possible of Nvidia drivers, not the WDDM one
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Link edited and replace with news standpoint. But still it won't create any harm since the keyfinder seems to be unpractical which is later admitted by the creator himself.
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post Mar 4 2007, 01:33 PM

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QUOTE(linkinstreet @ Mar 3 2007, 09:36 PM)
The last time Vista let 512 RAM run aero was in RC1
After that, you need to hack the registery to make it work.
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Get your facts right la dude. I just installed OEM Vista Home Premium on my 512mb lappie. Aero's there right after installation. Registry hack my a$$.
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post Mar 4 2007, 02:03 PM

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Wow, the thumbnail is live. Haha.l But it seems that 3D flip is not live?


Added on March 4, 2007, 2:05 pm
QUOTE(moto-moto @ Mar 4 2007, 01:08 PM)
anyone here can clear my doubts?
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It's a myth dude

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post Mar 4 2007, 02:53 PM

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QUOTE(Sony Trinitron @ Mar 4 2007, 01:33 PM)
Get your facts right la dude. I just installed OEM Vista Home Premium on my 512mb lappie. Aero's there right after installation. Registry hack my a$$.
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Some sites (liek AeroXP.org) still states that you need to have 1GB of ram to have Aero,and i tested it by unpluggin 1 X 512MB stick and Aero did not turn on, even after running benchmarking again after that. Sometimes laptop tend not to follow this rule as they have shared memory with the GPU.
And besides, I beta tested all version of Vista since Beta I, so i know what i'm talking about
on the other hand, is your Aero just 'Aero' or 'Aero translucent with kick ass graphic rendering'?

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post Mar 4 2007, 02:58 PM

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Sorry on my ealier statement. 3D flip is live view too..Just tested with msn messenger..haha
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post Mar 4 2007, 02:59 PM

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The minimum hardware requirements for Windows Aero are a 1-GHz 32-bit or 64-bit) processor, 1GB RAM, and 128MB video RAM along with a DirectX 9 class graphics processor that supports a Windows Display Driver Model Driver, Pixel Shader 2.0 in hardware, and 32 bits per pixel.

I rest my case


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QUOTE(adriankhoo153 @ Mar 4 2007, 02:58 PM)
Sorry on my ealier statement. 3D flip is live view too..Just tested with msn messenger..haha
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Test it with WMP or any video playing software to show of it's capabilities

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post Mar 4 2007, 04:00 PM

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QUOTE(ruffstuff @ Mar 4 2007, 01:15 PM)
Link edited and replace with news standpoint.  But still it won't create any harm since the keyfinder seems to be unpractical which is later admitted by the creator himself.
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I see sweat.gif
current hardwares are pretty impossible to crack in a 25 characters without leaving it for weeks.
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post Mar 4 2007, 04:58 PM

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a seperate thread for Gadgets (Sidebar) can be found here
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post Mar 4 2007, 05:14 PM

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QUOTE(linkinstreet @ Mar 4 2007, 02:59 PM)
I rest my case


Added on March 4, 2007, 3:01 pm
Test it with WMP or any video playing software to show of it's capabilities
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Yup. the 3D is live. Tested rclxms.gif
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post Mar 4 2007, 07:16 PM

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Is it possible to enable Aero with 512MB RAM + a 512MB readyboost Flash drive?
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post Mar 4 2007, 08:07 PM

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i am going to buy either a XP home or a Vista home premium. i used the windows advisory thingy and it says that my com is best to use vista business so that means that its good enough for home premium. my question is that are there MANY softwares out there that doesnt support vista?


Added on March 4, 2007, 8:10 pmi am going to buy either a XP home or a Vista home premium. i used the windows advisory thingy and it says that my com is best to use vista business so that means that its good enough for home premium. my question is that are there MANY softwares out there that doesnt support vista?

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QUOTE(billytong @ Mar 4 2007, 07:16 PM)
Is it possible to enable Aero with 512MB RAM + a 512MB readyboost Flash drive?
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No. Will automatically disabled by windows itself. Why bother to upgrade to vista if your system barely supports it? XP runs much smoother and less resource hogging.


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QUOTE(billytong @ Mar 4 2007, 07:16 PM)
Is it possible to enable Aero with 512MB RAM + a 512MB readyboost Flash drive?
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No. Will automatically disabled by windows itself. Why bother to upgrade to vista if your system barely supports it? XP runs much smoother and less resource hogging.

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QUOTE(linkinstreet @ Mar 4 2007, 02:53 PM)
Some sites (liek AeroXP.org) still states that you need to have 1GB of ram to have Aero,and i tested it by unpluggin 1 X 512MB stick and Aero did not turn on, even after running benchmarking again after that. Sometimes laptop tend not to follow this rule as they have shared memory with the GPU.
And besides, I beta tested all version of Vista since Beta I, so i know what i'm talking about
on the other hand, is your Aero just 'Aero' or 'Aero translucent with kick ass graphic rendering'?
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Come on dude, a man admits their mistake and not giving ridiculous reasons to defend themselves. If you are wrong, just admit it, why argue?

Yes. Aero will not turn on automatically when you install using 512MB x 1. But Aero is there (yes smarty pants, it's the Aero translucent, as though there are a lot of types of aero) for you to select, and requires no whatever a$$ registry hack like you said earlier. And what does turning on Aero has to do with benchmarking?

You crack me up by said 'Sometimes laptop tend not to follow this rule as they have shared memory with the GPU.' Lawl, yes, some laptop do share memory with the GPU - that simply means the GPU will share the laptop's memory and thus making the laptop memory less! Why on earth would Aero be there when the memory is shared with GPU and resulting in less than 512MB? whistling.gif Shouldn't it be the other way around champ? Or are you trying to say that GPU has additional memory to share with system memory and thus making it more than 512MB? Which GPU does that? whistling.gif

I've tested it since Beta 1 like you did, from laptop to desktop - integrated to standalone GPU - single core to dual core - 512MB to 4GB systems. Being active in this thread doesn't mean you know everything man. Next time, keep your facts right and THINK before replying and not just blurting things out.
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post Mar 5 2007, 08:56 AM

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until next year when ram prices drops again, I'm sticking with XP.

also, prices of win ultimate are ebbing away slowly. they seem to be getting less and less by rm10 or so every month
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post Mar 5 2007, 09:12 AM

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QUOTE(Joey-kun @ Mar 5 2007, 08:56 AM)
until next year when ram prices drops again, I'm sticking with XP.

also, prices of win ultimate are ebbing away slowly. they seem to be getting less and less by rm10 or so every month
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Is it? Did the price decrease each month? How much is all those edition of vista cost when it first launch last month?
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QUOTE(Sony Trinitron @ Mar 5 2007, 08:43 AM)
Come on dude, a man admits their mistake and not giving ridiculous reasons to defend themselves. If you are wrong, just admit it, why argue?

Yes. Aero will not turn on automatically when you install using 512MB x 1. But Aero is there (yes smarty pants, it's the Aero translucent, as though there are a lot of types of aero) for you to select, and requires no whatever a$$ registry hack like you said earlier. And what does turning on Aero has to do with benchmarking?

You crack me up by said 'Sometimes laptop tend not to follow this rule as they have shared memory with the GPU.' Lawl, yes, some laptop do share memory with the GPU - that simply means the GPU will share the laptop's memory and thus making the laptop memory less! Why on earth would Aero be there when the memory is shared with GPU and resulting in less than 512MB?  whistling.gif Shouldn't it be the other way around champ? Or are you trying to say that GPU has additional memory to share with system memory and thus making it more than 512MB? Which GPU does that?  whistling.gif

I've tested it since Beta 1 like you did, from laptop to desktop - integrated to standalone GPU - single core to dual core - 512MB to 4GB systems. Being active in this thread doesn't mean you know everything man. Next time, keep your facts right and THINK before replying and not just blurting things out.
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taken from Microsoft tech support forum
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The minimum hardware requirements for Windows Aero are a 1-GHz 32-bit or 64-bit) processor, 1GB RAM, and 128MB video RAM along with a DirectX 9 class graphics processor that supports a Windows Display Driver Model Driver, Pixel Shader 2.0 in hardware, and 32 bits per pixel.


You don't just think, you reasearch it as well.

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QUOTE(linkinstreet @ Mar 5 2007, 11:06 AM)
taken from Microsoft tech support forum
You don't just think, you reasearch it as well.
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LMFAO! You still try to defend for yourself by copy and paste the minimum system requirement for vista? laugh.gif

Does it makes any sense? Does it make your previous crappy and wrong statement correct? It doesn't mean anything dude. whistling.gif
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QUOTE(adriankhoo153 @ Mar 5 2007, 09:12 AM)
Is it? Did the price decrease each month? How much is all those edition of vista cost when it first launch last month?
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when first release ultimate was 680. now sudah 650
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post Mar 5 2007, 11:55 AM

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QUOTE(Joey-kun @ Mar 5 2007, 11:44 AM)
when first release ultimate was 680. now sudah 650
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How bout Home Premium? Now it range from RM380 ~ Rm420 at LYP. My fren in UK said Home Premium cost 99.99 pound for Home Premium
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haih, okay. fine. say whatever you want.
But you can still check for what you want @ http://forums.microsoft.com/TechNet/

quote from Sriram Subramanian, Lead Program Manager, Windows Client Graphics

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1)      Some graphics adapters are not sufficiently powerful for Vista to automatically enable Aero.  The video RAM is just one criteria and depending on the hardware configuration and resolution, 64 MB VRAM may be sufficient to turn on Aero.  The performance assessment for the hardware is indicated in the "Performance Information and Tools" control panel.

2)  The end-user should be able to manually enable Aero using the Appearance Settings dialog from the control panel:  Control Panel -> Window Color and Appearance -> Open Classic appearance properties -> Select the Windows Aero color scheme. 

2)      Vista will not automatically enable Aero on systems with 512MB of system memory (RAM) or less.  This can again be overridden by the user using step #2.

3)      There is a bug in Vista RC2 that prevents the user from overriding the 512 MB rule using the control panel.  This has been fixed in later builds.

4)      If the graphics card and driver were added to the system after vista was first setup, then the performance assessment needs to be re-run before Vista will automatically enable Aero.  There are three things a user can do here (note, we don't recommend the registry hacks).  Simply update the performance  data by running an assessment.  This is done from the "Performance Information and Tools" control panel.
While this shows I was wrong when saying that 512 cannot support Aero, there is no way that Aero will automatically be turned on. And many ppl there are still asking why the Aero interface option is not availble to them, and only can access it with 1GB

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