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horngguan
post Mar 6 2015, 01:50 PM

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Hi, thank you for the information. I would like to know what college accepts my spm results? I got an A for english, B for bm, C+ for sejarah, C for physics and C for pendidikn moral. Unfortunately i did not get credit for maths and im very regretful of that. Is there any way around for this or must i retake my maths? I would like to get an architecture degree but im having a hard time looking for colleges that offer foundations or diplomas with entry requirements that matches my results. What if i did A levels without maths? would i be able to study architecture in uni? Your replies are much appreciated.
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post Mar 6 2015, 07:58 PM

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Hi Mr. Architect! I've been following this guide since January, and this is probably the best guide I've stumble upon, clearing any doubts I have on this specific course (Architecture).

I'm looking for a more accurate measurement of CGPA (STPM) that will be more likely considered by any IPTA that offers "SARJANA MUDA SAINS (KEPUJIAN) SENIBINA". In your intro it states a C in Pengajian Am and 2 more C will be sufficient, but I hope for a clearer gauge for the minimum being held out by the IPTAs recently.

I actually utilized the Semak Syarat Kelayakan system for UiTM, link :" http://esyarat.uitm.edu.my/ " and found out my result wasn't good enough to be considered..

I have a CGPA of 2.59 (B/B-/C/B-) and currently in the midst of retaking.
Looking forward and thanks for your reply in advance! smile.gif

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QUOTE(horngguan @ Mar 6 2015, 05:50 AM)
Hi, thank you for the information. I would like to know what college accepts my spm results? I got an A for english, B for bm, C+ for sejarah,  C for physics and C for pendidikn moral. Unfortunately i did not get credit for maths and im very regretful of that. Is there any way around for this or must i retake my maths? I would like to get an architecture degree but im having a hard time looking for colleges that offer foundations or diplomas with entry requirements that matches my results. What if i did A levels without maths? would i be able to study architecture in uni? Your replies are much appreciated.
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first of all, ur only option for architecture after SPM is diploma (refer to 1st post). there are two general diplomas in architecture u could take: one from private colleges; the other from politeknik. there is no way for u to skip into architecture degree (or any degree for that matter) direct from SPM.

secondly, each school have its own minimum intake requirement. all IPTAs will require BM and maths credit for SPM, regardless whatever u score in diploma, STPM or A-levels. meaning until u buck up ur maths, all IPTA options are closed. in fact, u will be hard pressed to find any architectural degree or diploma that would take anyone without a maths credit.

although u might go somewhere who would take u without the maths credit, it is my professional opinion that u should improve that as many, many options will not be available to u in the future beyond that.

QUOTE(sukjustin3 @ Mar 6 2015, 11:58 AM)
Hi Mr. Architect! I've been following this guide since January, and this is probably the best guide I've stumble upon, clearing any doubts I have on this specific course (Architecture).

I'm looking for a more accurate measurement of CGPA (STPM) that will be more likely considered by any IPTA that offers "SARJANA MUDA SAINS (KEPUJIAN) SENIBINA". In your intro it states a C in Pengajian Am and 2 more C will be sufficient, but I hope for a clearer gauge for the minimum being held out by the IPTAs recently.

I actually utilized the Semak Syarat Kelayakan system for UiTM, link :" http://esyarat.uitm.edu.my/ " and found out my result wasn't good enough to be considered..

I have a CGPA of 2.59 (B/B-/C/B-) and currently in the midst of retaking.
Looking forward and thanks for your reply in advance!  smile.gif
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hello there.

the 2.00 CGPA is not "sufficient", but actually the absolute minimum requirement. meaning nobody below that line can ever join the degree programme, regardless.

currently, the average intake for architecture in most IPTAs are around 3.00 to 3.40. your 2.59 is quite low, where u might not even be called for the interview, regardless of how good u are in the artistic skills. so if u're retaking it, then pray hard it breaks the 3.00 mark.
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post Mar 7 2015, 11:25 AM

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Hi, I would just like to inquire for a paper I'm writing.. If i enroll myself in an overseas university to continue my studies for Part II, but later after completing my studies i find out that the university is not recognized by LAM for Part II. What should I for to achieve LAM part II recognition if my school is not recognized for Part II?

From what my friends tell me, I have to take an exam(?) but other than that are there any other requirements/steps I need to take(?).
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QUOTE(mikasaackerman @ Mar 7 2015, 03:25 AM)
Hi, I would just like to inquire for a paper I'm writing.. If i enroll myself in an overseas university to continue my studies for Part II, but later after completing my studies i find out that the university is not recognized by LAM for Part II. What should I for to achieve LAM part II recognition if my school is not recognized for Part II?

From what my friends tell me, I have to take an exam(?) but other than that are there any other requirements/steps I need to take(?).
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Technically, i cant imagine a situation where u can "suddenly" find out the programme is unaccredited. U can check the accreditation now before u leave to study there. So u should know what u r getting into.

But assume u do come home with an unaccredited degree, then yes, u will need to sit for the exam. You have to have all works done during ur studies ready, and i do mean everything, including group assignments and stuffs. Then ensure ur portfolio is up to date.

Then go to LAM and register urself for the exam. They'll instruct u on what to do next.

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Thanks! Your name sounds familiar.
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post Mar 7 2015, 11:22 PM

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QUOTE(azarimy @ Mar 7 2015, 09:36 PM)
Technically, i cant imagine a situation where u can "suddenly" find out the programme is unaccredited. U can check the accreditation now before u leave to study there. So u should know what u r getting into.

But assume u do come home with an unaccredited degree, then yes, u will need to sit for the exam. You have to have all works done during ur studies ready, and i do mean everything, including group assignments and stuffs. Then ensure ur portfolio is up to date.

Then go to LAM and register urself for the exam. They'll instruct u on what to do next.
Thanks! Your name sounds familiar.
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Yea, this is just a hypothetical situation, haha. I'm just being asked what to do in order to achieve LAM Part II recognition for graduates of non-recognized school. There is one more thing I would like clarified. In "4.0. Common Paths to Studying Architecture" I see LAM Part I and Part II exam listed in the chart.

So basically:
4.0 Chart's LAM Part I exam=Part I & II exam on LAM's website and
4.0 Chart's LAM Part II exam=Part III on LAM's website ??

Unfortunately I'm getting myself confused with the whole Part I, II and III categories.. sweat.gif Also thanks a bunch for taking time to answer my question icon_rolleyes.gif

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QUOTE(mikasaackerman @ Mar 7 2015, 03:22 PM)
Yea, this is just a hypothetical situation, haha. I'm just being asked what to do in order to achieve LAM Part II recognition for graduates of non-recognized school. There is one more thing I would like clarified. In "4.0. Common Paths to Studying Architecture" I see LAM Part I and Part II exam listed in the chart.

So basically:
4.0 Chart's LAM Part I exam=Part I & II exam on LAM's website and
4.0 Chart's LAM Part II exam=Part III on LAM's website   ??

Unfortunately I'm getting myself confused with the whole Part I, II and III categories.. sweat.gif  Also thanks a bunch for taking time to answer my question  icon_rolleyes.gif
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the chart's part I and II corresponds to LAM's parts I and II.
the part III exam is not featured in my chart. it is only eligible AFTER 2 years of practice as graduate architect.
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post Mar 8 2015, 07:01 PM

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Hi, i would like to know if i can transfer credits from Diploma In Interior Architecture to Bacherlor of Science in architecture?
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QUOTE(horngguan @ Mar 8 2015, 11:01 AM)
Hi, i would like to know if i can transfer credits from Diploma In Interior Architecture to Bacherlor of Science in architecture?
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It is possible, but most likely not much to make a difference.
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post Mar 9 2015, 01:09 AM

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QUOTE(azarimy @ Mar 8 2015, 10:07 PM)
It is possible, but most likely not much to make a difference.
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What do you mean by difference? I was told i could do either Diploma in Interior Architecture and then do my degree in architecture at taylor's or somewhere else as the classes are very alike.
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QUOTE(horngguan @ Mar 8 2015, 05:09 PM)
What do you mean by difference? I was told i could do either Diploma in Interior Architecture and then do my degree in architecture at taylor's or somewhere else as the classes are very alike.
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both programmes are about design. however, both are focusing at a different scale. in interior design, the design is pretty much defined by the kind of architecture that was given to u. u dont deal a lot on structures or social issues of the users. in architecture, u have to deal with everything. the scope and depth are bigger.

credit transfers wont make much difference because there are many more things that u havent learned or covered in interior design diploma that has to be covered in order to proceed in architectural degree. so in the end, u might be transferring a semester's worth of credit at most, but not enough to skip a whole year.
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post Mar 9 2015, 09:40 AM

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QUOTE(azarimy @ Mar 8 2015, 06:42 AM)
the chart's part I and II corresponds to LAM's parts I and II.
the part III exam is not featured in my chart. it is only eligible AFTER 2 years of practice as graduate architect.
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Ah ok i see. So referring to the chart, if one does their Part I studies in an accreditated university but does their Part II at an unaccreditated university, then he/she only has to take the Part II test and need not take the Part I examination? Also, what is usually tested in these exams?
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QUOTE(azarimy @ Mar 9 2015, 01:32 AM)
both programmes are about design. however, both are focusing at a different scale. in interior design, the design is pretty much defined by the kind of architecture that was given to u. u dont deal a lot on structures or social issues of the users. in architecture, u have to deal with everything. the scope and depth are bigger.

credit transfers wont make much difference because there are many more things that u havent learned or covered in interior design diploma that has to be covered in order to proceed in architectural degree. so in the end, u might be transferring a semester's worth of credit at most, but not enough to skip a whole year.
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alright, thank you very much. I will be enrolling in Diploma In Interior Architecture at Segi College and then proceed to pursue my degree in Architecture as segi do not offer degree in architecture but only degree in INTERIOR architecture smile.gif
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QUOTE(mikasaackerman @ Mar 9 2015, 01:40 AM)
Ah ok i see. So referring to the chart, if one does their Part I studies in an accreditated university but does their Part II at an unaccreditated university,  then he/she only has to take the Part II test and need not take the Part I examination? Also, what is usually tested in these exams?
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yes. u will only take part II if ur part I is already accredited. or in cases where people study both parts I and II overseas, they can just finish off straight from part I to part II and only comeback to sit for the exam ONCE.

usually they will look into what u have done during ur studies (studio projects) and if those have covered all that needs to be covered according to LAM requirements. if it fulfills and u manage to answer their questions (in interview format), then u get the license. if u fail, then u will do the design project exercise (about 3-4 months) and then sit for the exam again.

QUOTE(horngguan @ Mar 9 2015, 02:42 AM)
alright, thank you very much. I will be enrolling in Diploma In Interior Architecture at Segi College and then proceed to pursue my degree in Architecture as segi do not offer degree in architecture but only degree in INTERIOR architecture smile.gif
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why not opt for diploma in architecture at other places? i mean in regards of architecture education, polytechnic diplomas are highly commended as compared to IPTS diploma. means better chance of getting into IPTAs for degree, and cheaper as well.


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QUOTE(azarimy @ Mar 9 2015, 01:36 PM)
yes. u will only take part II if ur part I is already accredited. or in cases where people study both parts I and II overseas, they can just finish off straight from part I to part II and only comeback to sit for the exam ONCE.

usually they will look into what u have done during ur studies (studio projects) and if those have covered all that needs to be covered according to LAM requirements. if it fulfills and u manage to answer their questions (in interview format), then u get the license. if u fail, then u will do the design project exercise (about 3-4 months) and then sit for the exam again.
why not opt for diploma in architecture at other places? i mean in regards of architecture education, polytechnic diplomas are highly commended as compared to IPTS diploma. means better chance of getting into IPTAs for degree, and cheaper as well.
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hi mr architect, i did not fully understand about your statement on ipta and ipts. Could you kindly pm me your number or email? my email is : horngguan@yahoo.com

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QUOTE(horngguan @ Mar 9 2015, 06:15 PM)
hi mr architect, i did not fully understand about your statement on ipta and ipts. Could you kindly pm me your number or email? my email is : horngguan@yahoo.com
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My email is azarimy@gmail.com, although i prefer less private discussions to be held here, so that it could benefit others one way or another.
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QUOTE(azarimy @ Mar 10 2015, 07:19 AM)
My email is azarimy@gmail.com, although i prefer less private discussions to be held here, so that it could benefit others one way or another.
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Does anyone know the fees for limkokwing's Diploma in Architectural Studies and Foundation in Built Environment?
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Can i know whether taylors or ucsi architecture program is better?
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QUOTE(Etolen @ Mar 10 2015, 12:33 PM)
Can i know whether taylors or ucsi architecture program  is better?
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One thing u need to understand about architecture education is, it's hard to be objective. What does "better" mean? Do u measure by how many times their students won a competition? Or which curriculum is more thorough? Or which university has higher employability rate?

These things change over time. Both are relatively new schools, but both are accredited with LAM part 1. So literally u cant go wrong with any of the two.
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QUOTE(azarimy @ Mar 10 2015, 08:41 PM)
One thing u need to understand about architecture education is, it's hard to be objective. What does "better" mean? Do u measure by how many times their students won a competition? Or which curriculum is more thorough? Or which university has higher employability rate?

These things change over time. Both are relatively new schools, but both are accredited with LAM part 1. So literally u cant go wrong with any of the two.
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Oh alright, but in terms of which curriculum is more thorough and employability rate which uni is the winner currently?

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