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TSazarimy
post Feb 15 2015, 09:21 PM

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QUOTE(cend @ Feb 15 2015, 12:11 PM)
Sorry for bothering you again Mr. Azarimy. I'm getting a bit nervous towards my end semester. I'm getting into internship next month.  smile.gif

Is CGPA is something I should not overlook? This whole course is pretty subjective, so does CGPA holds any weight for interviews or job finding especially in architecture firms? Most of my seniors landed a job on the firms they worked during internship (or some of the lecturer's firms), but I wonder if things gone worse and I had too look for another place to work upon graduating. My CGPA falls slightly below the 2nd upper now, so I am out of idea to bump it back up. It just getting worse.
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in architecture, it's safe to say the portfolio carries a helluva lot more weight than CGPA. this has caused some people to "upgrade" their portfolio by redoing some of their works or even claiming somebody else' works as theirs.

CGPA still carry weight when applying for government or non-architecture jobs, or to continue for further studies.
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post Feb 27 2015, 11:11 AM

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I've been thinking of doing a double degree in Architecture, but seems like it'll consume a lot more of my time studying just to get a cert. Any suggestion on should I go for it or not?
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post Feb 27 2015, 11:24 AM

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QUOTE(clare234567 @ Feb 27 2015, 03:11 AM)
I've been thinking of doing a double degree in Architecture, but seems like it'll consume a lot more of my time studying just to get a cert. Any suggestion on should I go for it or not?
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Double degree ia becomin obsolete already. Nowadays go for degree+masters. So it'll be worth more.

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post Feb 27 2015, 11:36 AM

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QUOTE(azarimy @ Feb 27 2015, 11:24 AM)
Double degree ia becomin obsolete already. Nowadays go for degree+masters. So it'll be worth more.
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Errr srry, how does that work? Because I'm still in my 3rd year of degree. If lets say I want to take up a new course (Archi), I should take degree+masters? hmm.gif
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post Feb 27 2015, 11:36 AM

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QUOTE(azarimy @ Feb 27 2015, 11:24 AM)
Double degree ia becomin obsolete already. Nowadays go for degree+masters. So it'll be worth more.
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Errr srry, how does that work? Because I'm still in my 3rd year of degree. If lets say I want to take up a new course (Archi), I should take degree+masters? hmm.gif
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QUOTE(clare234567 @ Feb 27 2015, 03:36 AM)
Errr srry, how does that work? Because I'm still in my 3rd year of degree. If lets say I want to take up a new course (Archi), I should take degree+masters?  hmm.gif
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what degree are u doing now?
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post Feb 27 2015, 01:26 PM

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QUOTE(azarimy @ Feb 27 2015, 01:23 PM)
what degree are u doing now?
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QS.
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post Feb 27 2015, 02:15 PM

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QUOTE(clare234567 @ Feb 27 2015, 05:26 AM)
QS.
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u plan to switch to architecture? well, i have to say it'll be an uphill climb. just like medicine, architecture is something people switch out of, not switch in to.

anyways, if u plan to become an architect, u would have to do the degree all over for 3 years (part 1), and then another 2 years for masters. and yes, that's on top of ur current QS degree. at most, u will be able to transfer a few credits to lessen the load, and this is usually on university subjects (subjek umum).

but if u just want to specialize on architecture but within the QS field, then a research-based masters would be sufficient.
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post Feb 27 2015, 02:49 PM

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QUOTE(azarimy @ Feb 27 2015, 02:15 PM)
u plan to switch to architecture? well, i have to say it'll be an uphill climb. just like medicine, architecture is something people switch out of, not switch in to.

anyways, if u plan to become an architect, u would have to do the degree all over for 3 years (part 1), and then another 2 years for masters. and yes, that's on top of ur current QS degree. at most, u will be able to transfer a few credits to lessen the load, and this is usually on university subjects (subjek umum).

but if u just want to specialize on architecture but within the QS field, then a research-based masters would be sufficient.
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Oh wow. I did not plan on switching, just thinking that maybe it would be good to be able to work on both fields when I graduate. I had a friend who have a diploma in QS and currently taking a degree in Archi. I guess she can utilize both of her cert when she works in the future.

Anyways, another 5 years is quite too much. blush.gif
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QUOTE(clare234567 @ Feb 27 2015, 06:49 AM)
Oh wow. I did not plan on switching, just thinking that maybe it would be good to be able to work on both fields when I graduate. I had a friend who have a diploma in QS and currently taking a degree in Archi. I guess she can utilize both of her cert when she works in the future.

Anyways, another 5 years is quite too much.  blush.gif
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Occasionally we do have ppl with dip from other courses joining architecture. But never degree. All of them know the kinda mess they're getting into and well aware of the duration. Thing is they really, really wanna do architecture, but had to take QS coz it wasnt offered to them.

Like i said, if u wanna work in both fields, u have to go through the 5 years. If u only want to specialize, then masters by research is the way. But even that dont have much value in terms of practice. Just specialization or focus. Which very likely not yet needed in current malaysian practice.
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QUOTE(azarimy @ Feb 27 2015, 08:56 PM)
Occasionally we do have ppl with dip from other courses joining architecture. But never degree. All of them know the kinda mess they're getting into and well aware of the duration. Thing is they really, really wanna do architecture, but had to take QS coz it wasnt offered to them.

Like i said, if u wanna work in both fields, u have to go through the 5 years. If u only want to specialize, then masters by research is the way. But even that dont have much value in terms of practice. Just specialization or focus. Which very likely not yet needed in current malaysian practice.
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Tbh I've always wanted archi ever since spm, or I thought since I liked sketching and stuff archi might be the thing for me, it was just that my spm result was bad. Did apply for archi but didnt get any offer, so I moved on to QS.

I guess I'll just proceed with my sketches, despite not taking archi as a course. Thanks for the helpful insight, mr azarimy smile.gif
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Dear TS,

I would like to inform our friends here that University College Of Technology Sarawak now offers Bachelor Of Science In Architecture ( LAM Part 1 )

We have qualified registered professional architects (Part 3, Part 2) & experience lecturers to assist the students to undergo 3.5 years course with top notch facilities.

We are located in Sibu, Sarawak.

For more info please refer : https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/985976/+160

Website : http://www.ucts.edu.my/

Hope you can include us in your Uni list that offers Architecture course.

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QUOTE(verz84 @ Mar 4 2015, 03:36 AM)
Dear TS,

I would like to inform our friends here that University College Of Technology Sarawak now offers Bachelor Of Science In Architecture ( LAM Part 1 )

We have qualified registered professional architects (Part 3, Part 2) & experience lecturers to assist the students to undergo 3.5 years course with top notch facilities.

We are located in Sibu, Sarawak.

For more info please refer : https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/985976/+160

Website : http://www.ucts.edu.my/

Hope you can include us in your Uni list that offers Architecture course.

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hi, thanks for the update. i assume it's not yet accredited with LAM part 1? coz i cant find it in the list yet http://www.lam.gov.my/accreditation/list-o...ised-programmes

i will update the 1st post as soon as i can. currently a bit swamped with work.
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post Mar 4 2015, 11:57 AM

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We have just undergo accreditation process last semester. So i guess still in the process . Thank you very much TS. I'm one of the lecturer for the programme. Hope we can work something out together in near future.
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hye...i'm quite interesting in architecture and design...is it true architecture need physics and addmath?and what gred needed for this course?
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QUOTE(BudakNkFly @ Mar 4 2015, 03:21 PM)
hye...i'm quite interesting in architecture and design...is it true architecture need physics and addmath?and what gred needed for this course?
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hi there,

a good command over physics is preferred, but not addmath. in fact, in my whole 20 years in this field from being a student to practice to being an academician, never had i used a single chapter of addmaths at any point.

physics is a bonus, but frankly all the physics u need will be taught from scratch, as there are quite a large number of students from art background.

look at both subjects as simply requirements to enroll, but not requirements to do architecture.
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post Mar 5 2015, 12:56 AM

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QUOTE(azarimy @ Mar 4 2015, 11:28 PM)
hi there,

a good command over physics is preferred, but not addmath. in fact, in my whole 20 years in this field from being a student to practice to being an academician, never had i used a single chapter of addmaths at any point.

physics is a bonus, but frankly all the physics u need will be taught from scratch, as there are quite a large number of students from art background.

look at both subjects as simply requirements to enroll, but not requirements to do architecture.
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Hmm...but is it difficult for people who study architecture to get a job ?
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QUOTE(BudakNkFly @ Mar 4 2015, 04:56 PM)
Hmm...but is it difficult for people who study architecture to get a job ?
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it highly depends on how well u performed in school. architecture is a close-knit community, and most of the time we know each other quite well. meaning what u did in school will echo through the industry, and most firms would always keep an eye on high performers in school. coming from a good school also a bonus, as reputation means there's a better tendency that the graduates are very capable designers.

but because architects are trained to be meticulous, the problem with the new generation is that they're very picky on which firm to work in. some are willing to wait for the proper offer to come (or the money) before signing in.

bottom line is, it's competitive to get the best jobs, but certainly not difficult to land A job.
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QUOTE(azarimy @ Mar 5 2015, 01:28 AM)
it highly depends on how well u performed in school. architecture is a close-knit community, and most of the time we know each other quite well. meaning what u did in school will echo through the industry, and most firms would always keep an eye on high performers in school. coming from a good school also a bonus, as reputation means there's a better tendency that the graduates are very capable designers.
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i couldn't agree more..most of the firm will ask 'from which uni u are graduated from'..maybe because most of the senior architect in Malaysia were coming from that particular Uni..
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Any graduates who haven't get any place to work or any offer yet? You are most welcomed to Sarawak market. Architects are needed here since we are very short of architects. Mostly we depend on diploma & even certificate holders to perform multitasking even to design. But of course you will be trained by experience architects. Don't be shy to explore the market here. You will be surprise to know you will get an offer in a short time.

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