QUOTE(ProbMan @ Mar 9 2011, 08:15 AM)
What personal attacks? Then did i call u any bollock? Yeah, they are great so? Does that means I have to mention their names every now and then and trying to win argument by that? And u switch to argument about dribbling and Im pretty sure that's a very basic fundamental for every footballer. Im bashing the way he's not creative enough during that 2/3 yards just abit more to enter penalty box (even if it's not dive or spanish theatre, there is a threat there), and then u started to talk history lesson...What the hell was that? And then, calling ppl bollock or fools...
Well for what it's worth, I'd extend my apologies for saying u spoke bollocks. I cant really call somebody a bollock as u say it

. As for calling u a fool, please page Prelude23. I never call u that. I didn't bring out any names to win arguments. I'm just saying great defenders make their name by well, defending great. Any thing else is a plus.
And for your points, I understand what you are saying. I do. But it takes more than words to say simply Sagna could have dribbled all the way to the box. If your complaint is that his crosses to strikers who are double marked doesn't work, what is he driving into the box for? This discussion from u stems from the past thread where why can't Sagna be like Dani Alves. Well, there's only 1 Dani Alves. The animosity stemmed from your earlier statements that all defenders had to be good at dribbling to be able to leave the academy. Sure Sagna maybe a class dribbler, but you can't deny another defender's ability to fend it off? Surely it can happen. It's all hypothetical, from your point of him playing a little spanish theatre/diving and scoring us many penalties. It's not even a respectable act in the first place. It's easy to say he could have provided a threat for us, but when we look at the stats, the point is we had 0 attempts. There's a whole list of player with more flair than him (Cesc, Nasri, RVP, Rosicky, Wilshere) that should have done something to change that statistic, not a defender.
Prelude23 made a very good point when he asked u to name other wingbacks who were really good like Alves in offense. I dind't see your reply to it, but let's be honest, players of that quality are few and far between.
Please keep it a healthy discussion. I'm the 2nd person who has been told to shut up by you simply because you can't participate in a decent healthy discussion and fancy making assumptions that neither we know football or simply are flamed by stating our facts as a sign of arrogance towards u.
Like I said, you and I are both supporters of the same club. I don't need the thread to turn into a shitstorm because a few of us retorts your claims.
Come on you gunners!
This post has been edited by taingonghai: Mar 9 2011, 08:46 AM