Look man, you're beating a dead horse here. If a defender does all fancy shit and loses the ball, he gets flame grilled. Look when clichy made mistakes trying to be fancy defender back then, he was flame grilled.
Defenders are defenders for a reason. I don't get why u keep bashing on Sagna when we had a passenger right winger for 70 minutes of the game.
If u watched so much football as you say, back when we were a dominant force, Lee Dixon didn't do any fancy shit. Lauren Bisan didn't do any fancy shit, and we licked other teams all over the pitch.
Sagna has been brilliant all season long, and over ONE situation in ONE totally lopsided game, ur grilling him? Dude get a grip. Move on. He did well tonight.

please don't talk bollocks. We don't have astro yet? I've had astro since 1996 watching the Atlanta Olympics. And Lauren time no Astro? WHere have u been hiding? Under a rock? I don't conclude anything I didn't watch mind you.

And yes Rosicky may have been behind him. But did you see him intercept any play from the mid? Or put in any decent defensive effort? Come on man. It's been one game. And out of a sudden Sagna's predictable. Give it a rest. Sagna's best improvement this season has been on his crossing. U can't expect one player especially a right back to have changed the situation this morning.We were chasing the game from the first whistle and the defender was the problem u indentified as an ATTACKING problem. geez

The game's done and dusted, so have I with this discussion. Few of us including Barca fans having been trying to make a point to u from the previous thread till now. They've given up. Now's my turn. U win. Sagna's rubbish and predictable. And from ur comments the last thread, he should now play smart like the spaniards, take people one on one and do a little "diving" to win us many penalties.

Ok I get it.

Sorry I'd have to disagree here. Sagna was perhaps one of our better performers this morning and has been excellent defensively so far this season. Being a good crossing fullback is always a plus but bear in mind Sagna is a defender and his priority should remain at defending well. That is what he is paid to do. If he can attack and cross well then that is a bonus.

When did i call u names? Great, a retort with personal attacks. I've supported Arsenal since 1994 when I was in the UK and came back. I didn't say i supported them from childbirth as u assumed did I?  Simply because I've supported the team before you, I'm guilty as well. Nice way of calling our great players like Lauren and Lee dixon as simply guys who didn't mean sh1t. Come on man, take a chill pill. We're the same club's supporters and your best retort is this. All me, Prelude23 and the rest of the guys are saying is stop bashing players without a valid reason and instead supporting a defender to neglect his duties and worse still, encourage diving.
Your argument simply doesn't hold water that all defenders need to be graduates of the art of dribbling before leaving the academy. Comprende?

End of the day, both you and me support the same club? No?

Prelude23 made a very good point when he asked u to name other wingbacks who were really good like Alves in offense. I dind't see your reply to it, but let's be honest, players of that quality are few and far between.

Please keep it a healthy discussion. I'm the 2nd person who has been told to shut up by you simply because you can't participate in a decent healthy discussion and fancy making assumptions that neither we know football or simply are flamed by stating our facts as a sign of arrogance towards u.
Like I said, you and I are both supporters of the same club. I don't need the thread to turn into a shitstorm because a few of us retorts your claims.

Come on you gunners!

Btw: I am no Barca fan.. I just cant stand the sight of a club I once root for going 6 and potentially 7 years of no trophies. Arsenal and their fans deserve better.. 

Wow what the heck? So still damn stubborn eh?

What rubbish is this? Other defenders cant risk it and open their mind.
If not, they'll become another Alves.

How Sagna can become Alves if he got no pace?
Sagna may lose Alves in attacking but in defending? I'm not quite sure.

Thing is, Alves is playing for Barca. Put him in a mediocre team and you'll see his attacking style get him expose.
That is why Sagna dont attack as it will expose him.
Dribbling pass defender is not as easy as talk.
RvP did not do it. So did Nasri. Fab too. So why Sagna?!?

Understand?

Really? The amuse me why Malaysia cant play like Brazil.

And on the second bolded sentence, yes, he's trying to do something when he had the ball on wings.
He's trying to cross and find the striker in the penalty box.
I have to say he's kinda good in crossing.

How you expect him to dribble when dribbling is not his strenght? 

i'm surprised nobody mention bendtner here.
he can open his big mouth talking how good he is but failed like a wussy when it matters.

UCL refereeing, they put in bullshit refs like these and they want respect.

i think there should be a campaign where refs should earn respect.

what a ridiculously soft yellow that leads to a red.

And the scoreline show some improvment, you can't deny it (from 6 - 3 to 4 - 3, not bad huh?).

I don't know what arsenal hutang xavi...
He's always against us since the fabregas issue till now...
And now he criticize us again... He's a good footballer but I will not give him any respect at all!
CURSE YOU XAVI!! You are a disgrace to professional football! 

http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story/_/...ootball?cc=4716

memories man. sweet memories. haha. arsenal nt winning any trophy for the past 7 years ? thats 
good luck in bpl. chao praya gaise. im going to songkran festival. water gun ! phew phew

No matter what, just back Diaby and Denilson up. They need support from us. Belittling them now will not help us win the game.

I don't agree.

Look at Man City & Chelsea's improvement. The money has helped them to be at top 4 in BPL.

The same money can also help Arsenal to win trophies. Time for change.