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 Fundamentals of Overclocking, NEWBIES PLS READ THIS BEFORE POSTING

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post Jul 29 2008, 10:11 PM

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sorry... what you means by "clock wont be so high" .. paiseh.. i am really newbie alot here
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post Jul 29 2008, 11:16 PM

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erm..sory for being not clear....

by using lower proc multiplier, ur proc clock is lower on the same proc fsb speed....

read here for more understanding...

http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?act=ST&f...0#entry15451675
http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/626450
http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/627600
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post Jul 30 2008, 10:00 AM

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The first thread answer everythings that i need to know Awesome.. notworthy.gif
Haven got time to go through the 2nd and 3rd one...
Thank tkh_1001.
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post Jul 30 2008, 06:45 PM

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QUOTE(FoxNope @ Jul 30 2008, 10:00 AM)
The first thread answer everythings that i need to know Awesome.. notworthy.gif
Haven got time to go through the 2nd and 3rd one...
Thank tkh_1001.
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no probs bro...

hopefully those thread can be moved n pinned here brows.gif
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post Jul 31 2008, 11:01 AM

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A question here. How should i know the voltage needed to add to cpu voltage when overclock? And how much should i add to overclock E8400 from 3GHz to 4GHz?
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post Jul 31 2008, 12:32 PM

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easy.if u want to oc higher,u need to add vcore.thats d fact.let say ur cpu is 350x10=3.5ghz at 1.35v very stable.but when u try to push at 360x10=3.6ghz n ur oc fail,here u must up d vcore.smile.gif
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QUOTE(Federer @ Jul 31 2008, 11:01 AM)
A question here. How should i know the voltage needed to add to cpu voltage when overclock? And how much should i add to overclock E8400 from 3GHz to 4GHz?
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You need to add voltage when your system start to get unstable.
Here is some setting that should work:
500x8
1:1 divider
1.35vcore(Less or more,try yourself as it differ from chip)
1.33vmch
1.9~2vdimm(5-5-5-12)
And test stability using orthos.Just change the vcore to the lowest that will pass orthos in this setting:Custom,Priority 8,Large FFT=6144,FFT in place for 30minutes first until you can get the lowest vcore then do it for 12hours.
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is.... what is actually means by unstable ? is that means the pc wont boot up or what?

and i got very very little knowledge on OC RAM... just wonder, is 5-5-5-12 compare to 4-4-4-12 is a big diff?


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QUOTE(FoxNope @ Jul 31 2008, 01:41 PM)
is.... what is actually means by unstable ? is that means the pc wont boot up or what?

and i got very very little knowledge on OC RAM... just wonder, is 5-5-5-12 compare to 4-4-4-12 is a big diff?
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Unstable could be a lot of thing.Could be cannot post,but most of the time is the rig start to act up.Sudden program crash or something like that is the sign of instability.
For daily use,timing difference is minimum.The difference only show in certain benchmark laugh.gif For daily,better to use low vdimm and looser timing icon_rolleyes.gif
One more thing,4GB kit cannot do 1000 C4 sweat.gif It does however can do 11xx C5 so c5 is what you should use on your ram.

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cl5 have lower bandwidth readings than cl4 when it comes to subtimings. In ram overclocking, its not about the speed and how tight your timings can be, its also about how much bandwidth you gain from an overclock.

What is bandwidth? It is in layman terms defined to be the amount of information being able to be carried per second. So for example, if i have a ram which is ddr2 800 in rating at cl5-5-5-15, my memory bandwidth is generally rated at 6400MB/s or lower(there are other factors involved too).

So for example if i tighten my timings to cl4-4-4-12, my bandwidth actually is increased to around 7000~8000MB/s. This is a gain in bandwidth smile.gif This is what overclockers in general want. smile.gif Ill give u an screenshot of what i mean smile.gif

Stability is simple. If the computer doesnt run like you want it to run like, its not stable. smile.gif There are many ways to test stability, one easiest method, is, running heavy programs, or softwares. That can be a good test, or the simple SuperPi32M test smile.gif

Notice the Memory bandwidths and latency

what u get on stock
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and... what u get when u overclock
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post Aug 2 2008, 12:34 PM

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ah bro ar..... ur divider n proc clock for both bench is not the same wor... like that compare where got fair tongue.gif
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just a comparison of bandwidth only. No specific indication on dividers whatsoever.. i just wanted to show what overclocking actually do
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QUOTE(FoxNope @ Jul 31 2008, 01:41 PM)
is.... what is actually means by unstable ? is that means the pc wont boot up or what?

and i got very very little knowledge on OC RAM... just wonder, is 5-5-5-12 compare to 4-4-4-12 is a big diff?
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actually from the 2nd n 3rd link i gave u got explain the effect of CL4 and CL5... go read up bro... the explaination there very detailed thumbup.gif
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Not sure if this question has been asked before...

If I were to increase my fsb frequency from 333MHz to 350MHz, it will increase my processor clock, but will it affect my other hardware such as PCIE, PCI cards and ram? Is there a risk of damaging other hardware other than the CPU?
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One more noob question i want to ask smile.gif . To calculate vdrop it's [(bios set vcore) - (CPUz vcore at idle]). Where to check the bios set vcore? I use Biostar TPower i45.
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QUOTE(tlts @ Aug 5 2008, 01:18 PM)
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QUOTE(tlts @ Aug 5 2008, 01:18 PM)
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QUOTE(lytros @ Aug 5 2008, 08:43 AM)
Not sure if this question has been asked before...

If I were to increase my fsb frequency from 333MHz to 350MHz, it will increase my processor clock, but will it affect my other hardware such as PCIE, PCI cards and ram? Is there a risk of damaging other hardware other than the CPU?
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yes ur proc clock will increase if u increase ur proc fsb... ur ram speed will increase together as well as u increase ur fsb... pls read the links i posted above to get more understand thumbup.gif

QUOTE(Federer @ Aug 5 2008, 10:47 AM)
One more noob question i want to ask  smile.gif . To calculate vdrop it's [(bios set vcore) - (CPUz vcore at idle]). Where to check the bios set vcore? I use Biostar TPower i45.
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erm..bios set vcore u ma check in ur bios lo laugh.gif


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hi guys

i have 1 Q
all this while i simply play around wit it
but i would like to know
wen do u actually up the vNB?
and generally......what are the safe limits for NB?
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post Aug 12 2008, 08:44 PM

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QUOTE(dro @ Aug 12 2008, 08:41 PM)
hi guys

i have 1 Q
all this while i simply play around wit it
but i would like to know
wen do u actually up the vNB?
and generally......what are the safe limits for NB?
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You try not to...in fact it's the last choice in memory clocking stabillity unless you trying to run out of spec memory strappings (particularly when you're going for insane memory clock speeds on dividers)

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