I have been in the US for almost 4 years now, finishing up my degree this May and graduating YEAAHHHH
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Apr 3 2011, 04:31 AM
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I have been in the US for almost 4 years now, finishing up my degree this May and graduating YEAAHHHH
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Apr 5 2011, 09:44 AM
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thanks! I need to make my project work though lolol
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Apr 7 2011, 10:52 PM
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QUOTE(Raymond7693 @ Apr 7 2011, 08:48 AM) what is the procedure to apply for ivy league universities in usa...i've just got my spm results and obtained 10As....and btw is a-levels necessary to apply for universities in usa. QUOTE(Hikari0307 @ Apr 7 2011, 08:50 AM) go to their websites and check it. Your SPM results don't mean nothing to them. It's leadership qualities that they are looking for. You might also need to take SAT and TOEFL QUOTE(Raymond7693 @ Apr 7 2011, 08:53 AM) ^pre u and foundation is it necessary or i can straight away take toefl and sat then apply for the university no it's not necessary. I know some Malaysians who are here at my uni straight out of Form 5. Go to their websites and look up what they want, my goodness lah I hate it when people expect us to do the research for them!QUOTE(Visionary @ Apr 7 2011, 08:53 AM) None of that at all. My group of friends is almost entirely white and they love me, I love them If anything, it's the international students who are racist and only stick to their own groups that speak their own language and pretty much leave everybody else out of it |
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Apr 9 2011, 03:57 AM
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you'll disgust me if you do. you pay thousands, millions of ringgit to fly overseas to hang out with malaysians. you wanna do that you stay in malaysia... wasting money.
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Apr 9 2011, 11:56 PM
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I know here at my uni hazing is not allowed and any frat found to be hazing their new initiates is suspended lol
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Apr 10 2011, 05:22 AM
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QUOTE(alaskanbunny @ Apr 9 2011, 01:14 PM) to the point of disgust? oh mai... are u white washed? why does feeling disgust for such people mean I'm white-washed? As it is, a lot of Malaysians like to say they studied overseas ... but all their friends are Malaysian. Why did you go overseas then? Where are your multi-cultural, multi-racial friends that aren't Malaysian? Making excuses about "cultures not clicking", that is YOUR face problem because you're not accepting of others and expecting them to accept you.i dont see anything wrong hanging out with msians in a foreign country... but of course not 'just' hanging out with own countrymen... even if you spent just a little of your time with others, it is good enough for me... these people with other cultural values sometimes dont click, so just learn n understand them only.. thats good enough, if the person shares the same interest and values... then friends maybe you dont need to have them inside you or you inside them to feel and know them... eh, i thought msians like to use ragging QUOTE(defectivelasagna @ Apr 9 2011, 01:54 PM) I'll be heading to the states next year, hopefully if i pass my pointer i will in the US? Language barrier is not an excuse at all, because all Malaysians speak some competent level of English (I hope). Cultural barriers how? It's not like they're forcing theirs on you nor should you be forcing yours on them. So many excuses as to why Malaysians stick to Malaysians overseas ... I think the one I would accept is "I'm afraid of white people", but then that begs the question:I don't think its fair to look down on those who stick to their own race, although it's not the best of what's overseas experience supposed to be, but not everyone is able to mingle around easily. language barriers, cultural barriers, many factors. What should be done is to help them out maybe? Instead of scorning them, which would make it worse. Anyway, im hoping to apply to University of Washington. very keeeen on it Why are you going to the West for studies if you're afraid of white people? |
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Apr 10 2011, 11:28 AM
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IELTS and TOEFL are both accepted
Added on April 10, 2011, 11:28 am QUOTE(defectivelasagna @ Apr 9 2011, 10:13 PM) Cultureshock is a very real and alive phenomenon, even if in malaysia you speak a competent level of english, it doesn't mean you can click culturally, most malaysians don't have that strong command of english to the point of confidence. Why is it that you say that they aren't accepting of others? Could it be that they just don't know HOW to interact? and so they keep quiet and just do what they know they can do? Isn't it a defense mechanism? to be with the familiar? Like i said, of course it'd be great to get out of your comfort zone, especially in the US. But for those who do have a problem, looking down on them and shunning them is only gonna make it worse. As to studying overseas, some people value the education as it is, an education, just a degree. So they don't feel the need to have all the social interaction for them to feel that it's worthwhile eventhough i disagree with that. what mumei said.Lame. Ass. Excuses. This post has been edited by spunkberry: Apr 10 2011, 11:28 AM |
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Apr 11 2011, 12:21 AM
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QUOTE(OMG! @ Apr 9 2011, 10:12 PM) Anyone know which celebrity or any famous figures who study at US top notch university besides Mark Zukermberg, the FB founder. Emma Watson at Brown UniversityNatalie Portman (was) at Harvard University QUOTE(alaskanbunny @ Apr 10 2011, 11:33 AM) because u feel disgust just because ur own kind wants to stick among themselves more.. errr, studying overseas means studying, not making friends overseas... to get a better education? errr, msians are multi-cultural in the 1st place... come on you're living so long with foreigners dont tell me their culture is not diff? accepting and understanding is enough.. you dont have to force yourself to follow or even be like them.. face prob? come on la, kopitiam is the other side --->>> you're still making excuses for malaysians who spend thousands and thousands of ringgit to get an overseas education to hang out with fellow malaysians. I don't tell them what to do, I just say what I THINK they should do. SO defensive you. They want to waste their parents' money doing what they can do in Malaysia, then by all means let them do what they want.so if there's no forcing why go and force yourself and others? as long as you're comfortable there, it doesnt matter whether u are mingling around with foreigners or not? it is not an excuse in the 1st place but trying to explain to you that there're several reasons why people prefer to mingle among themselves most of the time.. msians have a right to choose, if they choose to mingle among themselves who are you to say they should do this and should do that? errr, to receive white ppl's education but not to go and hangout with them... and even if msians choose to mingle with them, it is their own choice, not on your accord all msians that go overseas must mingle with foreigners I think they're wasting money. Go overseas, spend 2-3 years there and then come back with a Malaysian girlfriend/boyfriend and then continue complaining that they're stuck in Malaysia. I WONDER WHY This post has been edited by spunkberry: Apr 11 2011, 12:22 AM |
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Apr 11 2011, 12:26 AM
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you make it sound like it's such a difficult thing to do lol if anything, Americans find different cultures FASCINATING. As for the Muslim cannot touch man-woman all that jazz, as if our generation abides by that anymore. Most of my Muslim friends drink and smoke ... why should going to the US make that any different?
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Apr 11 2011, 12:42 AM
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QUOTE(rokai88 @ Apr 10 2011, 12:36 PM) my point is: cultures differences MIGHT be a drawback in making good friends as it requires a lot compomising from both party. true, they're not all my friends, but just observing others too. Meh there are always the few devout ones that I respect very much dont pin points on individuals. i am talking as whole here. if for example you dont abides the islamic rules anymore my arguments wouldnt be valid on you anymore. besides don't assume all muslims are your friends |
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Apr 11 2011, 12:55 AM
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QUOTE(defectivelasagna @ Apr 10 2011, 12:49 PM) okay now THAT is ignorant, there are many malaysian muslims who do abide by those rules. if you know malaysian muslims(well, practically malays) culture well enough then you'd know what you said was blatant generalization. Just because you know a couple of people who don't doesn't mean it represents everyone. well first of all, I agreed with rokai when he called me out on generalizing based on a small sampling so I don't know why you're still biting my head off - maybe because you didn't read what I said. What I'm saying is not only based off what my friends do but also what I see other people do. I agree with you that there are still those that are devout, also what I said in my response to rokai, and I respect them highly.you don't seem to see it from their side, some people find other things more difficult than other people do. A lot of Malaysians claim to be open-minded and accepting, yet shun MY ways of thinking and call me white-washed. I wonder who really is open-minded? QUOTE(mumeichan @ Apr 10 2011, 12:49 PM) See, why does it require "alot" of compromising? Do you feel like you're giving up a whole lot by not eating char siew with your Malay friends? Do you think you Malays are giving up alot when they hear Chinese and Indian people speak Malay in their accents? thank you very much.This post has been edited by spunkberry: Apr 11 2011, 12:58 AM |
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Apr 11 2011, 01:09 AM
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you mean I replied, and I changed my response to be less provocative but I suppose you still want to continue? I'm at least making an effort now.
Anyway, I stand by what I said earlier about Malaysians sticking with Malaysians overseas annoying me, and I'm not imposing that on anybody. It's my opinion, and I doubt I'm the only one in the whole world who thinks like this. This post has been edited by spunkberry: Apr 11 2011, 01:17 AM |
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Apr 11 2011, 02:46 AM
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rokai: I don't think she's making it a malay thing, she's just pulling examples that so happen to be that
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Apr 11 2011, 08:51 PM
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there's no need to hate Malaysians, I never said I did. But it's good that you intend to mingle around ... I kinda got tired of the whole "I went overseas but I came back with a Malaysian boyfriend/girlfriend and now I want to complain for the rest of my life that I'm stuck in Malaysia" deal lol
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Apr 12 2011, 05:00 AM
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QUOTE(alaskanbunny @ Apr 11 2011, 10:24 AM) spending $$$ is their personal matter, getting an overseas education is the emphasis, hanging out with foreigners or not is just secondary.. of course they should, but it is up to them.. i are not defensive no I don't think it's a success if you end up with a foreign partner ... I mean to emphasize those who make NO foreign friends, marry a Malaysian, and then come back to Malaysia b****ing non-stop about how they're stuck in Malaysia.so you think going overseas then coming back with a foreign partner is a success? whether or not they hang out with foreigners and whether or not they migrate is 2 diff matters... well, if they complain then that's their prob why? i dunno lol... » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « of course if you limit yourself then you're anti-social.. you dont go and purposely just stick to your own fellow country or the other way around purposely go and stick with foreigners... just do whats comfortable to you, that way you will have a better experience you will be surprised at how many asians are there in san fran... lol, it is asian town there... usc in LA ler, i think u mean ucsf? actually berkeley is nearby too... errrr, disgust? lol, it is up to them to complain lor... are you going to stay in the state and work there after graduation? QUOTE(latias93 @ Apr 11 2011, 11:09 AM) Yeah, these scenarios are definitely the norm for those who came back here.. nobody asked them to return to Malaysia! Haha! My dad's friend married a fellow Malaysian that he met as they were the same batch that were sponsored to SIU Carbondale, if I'm not mistaken. They stayed there, became citizens, and now both their children are born and raised in America as well as pursuing their studies in top-notch places like Carnegie Mellon and Penn State. being able to stay in America is not easy. You'll have to find a job before you legally stay there.Yes, I agree. I know how many Asians are there in San Francisco.. California is the melting pot of Asians in America. I think you didn't get what I meant, I meant specifically Malaysians. There are many PRC, Taiwanese, Japanese and Koreans in San Francisco, there's even the famous Chinatown there. No, I didn't specify the schools to be in San Francisco either - I was just referencing to schools around the Bay Area (or California, for that matter) that have Malaysian Student Associations. UC Berkeley probably has one, but I know that both Stanford and USC have their own MSAs. |
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Apr 12 2011, 10:00 AM
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Seiryu, I obviously know the standard of education here, otherwise why would I even bother coming here? I also don't care if Malaysians don't mix with foreigners, because if I did care, I'd be imposing my views on others aka making them do what they don't necessarily want to do and I don't want that done to me. I've stated an opinion that I think they should. OBVIOUSLY the main point is to study, but if you're gonna stick with Malaysians ... why not do that at home for much cheaper?
People, you need to stop acting like I'm making you do this and like I'm the only one who thinks this way. I'm just the only one actually saying it. So defensive, it's laughable. Do what you want, darlings, I'm not gonna make you do anything you don't want to do. I'm just allowed to say whatever I want about it. This post has been edited by spunkberry: Apr 12 2011, 10:05 AM |
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Apr 12 2011, 12:31 PM
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...*sigh* better not.
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Apr 12 2011, 09:09 PM
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QUOTE(Seiryu @ Apr 12 2011, 12:51 AM) I'm not offended at all, don't worry. I just wanted to say that if you can't be assed to read her post, why should she be assed to answer your question?as for my answer to your question: I've learned how they pronounce certain words, some of which I've pronounced incorrectly ... and a LOT of other Malaysians DEFINITELY pronounce incorrectly. I find the culture differences fascinating ... like how the BRIDE pays for the wedding, not the groom. Where I am, people work to get their spending money even as students, I'm considered one of the very lucky ones who depend on the parents for everything ... and even then, I realize the pros and cons just talking with them. People headed to the US always ask about the racial discrimination and whatnot ... and I say there is little to none. The little that is there is usually towards people who make new kampungs in the US from their home countries. Why? Because they want to be a part of the group but the language barrier (most of these new kampungs use their native languages) and they resent a lot of internationals for that. I don't blame them at all for that - who likes being around people who constantly speak in their native language and basically shove the non-speakers out of the group? I've felt that way around the Korean kampungs. My American friends even learned some BM from me because of all the stuff I shout in lab and converse in with my Malaysian teammate. |
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Apr 13 2011, 08:11 AM
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basically you're just saying that it's okay for Malaysians to spend all that money to go overseas to make new kampungs. Okay.
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Apr 20 2011, 12:55 PM
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the 3 universities that you'll have to be like the most amazing person ever to get into. MIT ... top engineering university in the US. UC Berkeley ... they cater 99% to California residents only. Stanford ... not really known for engineering but whatever floats your boat.
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