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Irzani
post Mar 2 2011, 01:57 PM

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QUOTE(dreamer101 @ Mar 2 2011, 09:40 AM)
Irzani,

What is WRONG with your BRAIN?? I guess it is probably not good enough for Phd material??

People had told you that if you are doing Phd, you probably pay NOTHING and get an allowance for teaching assistant job too.

Those numbers has to do with people not doing Phd...

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Funding your studies
The average “sticker price” of US graduate education is US$21,000-34,000 per year, which covers both public and private institutions. For PhD students, this rises to US$28,000-40,000 per year. But as Welch points out, due to the amount of money invested in research, the majority of PhD students in science and engineering will get significant amounts of funding and roughly half of students doing an arts-based qualification will. One of the best ways of earning funding is through assistantship schemes. “In exchange for funding the students provide service to the university for between 15 and 20 hours a week,” says Welch. “This can include teaching, or helping with research. It is a real benefit to the student, for not only are they earning money but they are also building up their CV as they go through their course. The work helps the students to network.”

Combined with Fellowships, where students receive funding with no strings attached, over 43% of international students receive the main chunk of their funding from the institution, compared with just 3% of students who receive their funding from their home government or university.

For students looking to top up their funds 20 hours a week paid employment is allowed on campus; during vacations, this allowance increases to 40 hours. “They can apply to work off campus, but this is only for students for whom this will be essential,” says Welch. “For instance, some students will need to do an external internship, but for the majority there are a lot of opportunities on campus.”
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But how easy to get the funding? In Malaysia, most of the Malaysian master/phd candidate (UPM) will get their GRF/GRA opportunities. For foreigners, it's very hard to get one ... hmm.gif


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QUOTE(latias93 @ Mar 2 2011, 12:47 AM)
Well, most of them have already settled there, with only one studying at Ohio State University. It's.. not much of a difference, since USA is so big. Me being in California and them in Ohio would feel like you living in Malaysia and your relatives living in Japan, Hong Kong. xD

Haha, well I suppose so. I mean, so many people get straight A's nowadays. The competition is rather stiff, especially if you're an average scorer like me. sweat.gif The portfolio development is only required for masters students. smile.gif

The thread is right here, bro! http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=1700006&hl=

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Wow, I suppose USA is really as huge like a continent the way you exaggerated it tongue.gif & thanks again for more links!

So how are you going to spend your days there? Dormitory? It is included in the package right?


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QUOTE(LZ Zach @ Mar 3 2011, 12:24 AM)
Wow, I suppose USA is really as huge like a continent the way you exaggerated it tongue.gif & thanks again for more links!

So how are you going to spend your days there? Dormitory? It is included in the package right?
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Yeah! I mean, look at the size of each STATE alone. Most are bigger than Peninsula Malaysia.. we're only as big as what, the Florida peninsula? tongue.gif

Indeed, I'll be staying at a dormitory (there are several to choose from, there are coed, boys only, girls only, over 21 only) which they provide shuttle buses to and from the campus (or you can take the public transport if you want). A meal plan is provided, we can choose whichever that is most flexible for us. Well, that 36,000 USD is all-in. Tuition, lodging, meal-plan, and also estimated personal expense. The housing cost actually varies, depending on your taste. You wanna share the room with another guy or you'd rather be alone? No bathroom? Half bath? Full bath? The full price list can be found here http://www.academyart.edu/campushousing/costs.html . They also have a housing page specifically for freshmen like me. You can also take a virtual tour of the rooms in different dorms, if you wanna get a 'feel' of it. smile.gif http://www.academyart.edu/campushousing/in...g_freshman.html
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post Mar 3 2011, 08:23 AM

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Hi guys,

Just a small background on me. I graduated from college in Dec '08, majored in Aerospace Engineering. Now I'm currently in Solar/Photovoltaic/Construction Industry.

[quote=soitsuagain,Mar 1 2011, 05:04 PM]
Ok, so you're more interested on the field of work not that field of study. But wow your work back home is damn boring lol and I bet you will be hitting your face in the wall if you do that. FYI, Boeing/Lockheed, etc employs as many ME, EE and Software Engineers as they employ Aerospace Engineers. Essentially aerospace engineering is one engineering discipline that is a foot wide and a mile deep unlike ME which is the complete opposite. Let's say by the time you graduate, green tech is all the rage in the US. You can't move into that industry as an aerospace engineer as easily as a mechanical engineer. Even though the foundation and fundamental is all they need as you will be working on computers (like wtf you do with learning hard partial differential equations anyway, laplace equations?? duh) but ME stills holds sway. Since what you do now is is mostly general education requirements and maybe statics laugh.gif you can't really gauge whether your interest is real or not. Just make sure that the university you're entering has your 2nd engineering discipline of your choice so you can do an internal transfer easily without having to go through the trouble of changing school.
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That being said, I want to say that soitsuagain is right that Solar is all the rage here in America. I mean people are literally being snatched up if you have 6 mths to 1 year experience. As far as Aerospace being boring, I beg to differ tongue.gif. Aerospace is pretty interesting, so interesting that you'd be afraid to sit on an airplane since you know what assumptions the piece of metal is made off.


[quote=chew1991,Mar 1 2011, 07:35 PM]
No worries mate , i study because of interest and I'm aware of the future job path.
But yeah , most of the universities who offer AE , would definitely have ME and EE on their list also, i might Minor in ME. biggrin.gif
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As far as getting a job in Aerospace, chew1991. I must say that I was pretty disappointed to find out that the list of jobs for foreigners in America is a short one. You'd need to get security clearances to work in the Defense sector and if you're not a citizen, it's very VERY tough, heck it is even tough for green card holders to get a job in defense. That is not to say you cannot get a job in the commercial sector, though i must iterate that most of these companies handle ITAR class items which means that you'd need security clearances to handle those items.

If you do not intend to work in America, then you'd have a better chance in the rest of the world. Singapore's govt pours a ton of money into the Aviation O&M industry, though you'd work in O&M instead of R&D. There are also markets in Europe (EADS/Airbus), Canada (Pratt-Whitney/Bombardier), and Brazil (Embraer). Well, though I'm in the green industry now, I have not given up my dream to be an actual AE.

Just wanted to give you a heads up and I believe you'd be the best judge of your future. At the end of the day a degree is just a piece of paper to show that you're qualified to do white collar work and make more money (at most times) than blue collar workers.


[quote=Irzani,Mar 2 2011, 01:57 PM]
Just do some reading ... thanks for keep highlighting about the teaching assistant

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But how easy to get the funding? In Malaysia, most of the Malaysian master/phd candidate (UPM) will get their GRF/GRA opportunities. For foreigners, it's very hard to get one ... hmm.gif
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Dude, Irzani, you seriously need to look up more information if you're even a tiny bit interested in studying in America. "Nay sayer's get no where." It's easier to say I can't do it, than I can do it.

I know many Malaysians and other foreigners who come here with less than a hundred US dollars for education. If they can do it why can't you.


Peace out!

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[quote=Irzani,Mar 2 2011, 01:57 PM]
Just do some reading ... thanks for keep highlighting about the teaching assistant

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But how easy to get the funding? In Malaysia, most of the Malaysian master/phd candidate (UPM) will get their GRF/GRA opportunities. For foreigners, it's very hard to get one ... hmm.gif
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Irzani,

What is WRONG with YOUR BRAIN??

People had told YOU AGAIN and AGAIN.

1) For engineering and science Phd student, the PROBLEM is to get ADMITTED into USA. That is VERY TOUGH since you are competing with the WHOLE WORLD.

2) If you can get ACCEPTED, in most cases, you will get funding.

<<In Malaysia, most of the Malaysian master/phd candidate (UPM) will get their GRF/GRA opportunities. For foreigners, it's very hard to get one ... hmm.gif>>

3) Who CARES about a small tempurung like Malaysia??

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QUOTE(alxa3021 @ Mar 3 2011, 08:23 AM)
Hi guys,

Just a small background on me. I graduated from college in Dec '08, majored in Aerospace Engineering. Now I'm currently in Solar/Photovoltaic/Construction Industry.
That being said, I want to say that soitsuagain is right that Solar is all the rage here in America. I mean people are literally being snatched up if you have 6 mths to 1 year experience. As far as Aerospace being boring, I beg to differ tongue.gif. Aerospace is pretty interesting, so interesting that you'd be afraid to sit on an airplane since you know what assumptions the piece of metal is made off.
As far as getting a job in Aerospace, chew1991. I must say that I was pretty disappointed to find out that the list of jobs for foreigners in America is a short one. You'd need to get security clearances to work in the Defense sector and if you're not a citizen, it's very VERY tough, heck it is even tough for green card holders to get a job in defense. That is not to say you cannot get a job in the commercial sector, though i must iterate that most of these companies handle ITAR class items which means that you'd need security clearances to handle those items.

If you do not intend to work in America, then you'd have a better chance in the rest of the world. Singapore's govt pours a ton of money into the Aviation O&M industry, though you'd work in O&M instead of R&D. There are also markets in Europe (EADS/Airbus), Canada (Pratt-Whitney/Bombardier), and Brazil (Embraer). Well, though I'm in the green industry now, I have not given up my dream to be an actual AE.

Just wanted to give you a heads up and I believe you'd be the best judge of your future. At the end of the day a degree is just a piece of paper to show that you're qualified to do white collar work and make more money (at most times) than blue collar workers.
Dude, Irzani, you seriously need to look up more information if you're even a tiny bit interested in studying in America. "Nay sayer's get no where." It's easier to say I can't do it, than I can do it.

I know many Malaysians and other foreigners who come here with less than a hundred US dollars for education. If they can do it why can't you.
Peace out!

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wow. so u r doing in US now? smile.gif u must be in the first class honors thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(dreamer101 @ Mar 3 2011, 08:58 AM)
Irzani,

What is WRONG with YOUR BRAIN??

People had told YOU AGAIN and AGAIN.

1) For engineering and science Phd student, the PROBLEM is to get ADMITTED into USA.  That is VERY TOUGH since you are competing with the WHOLE WORLD.

2) If you can get ACCEPTED, in most cases, you will get funding.

<<In Malaysia, most of the Malaysian master/phd candidate (UPM) will get their GRF/GRA opportunities. For foreigners, it's very hard to get one ...  hmm.gif>>

3) Who CARES about a small tempurung like Malaysia??

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Chill sir. He might be still new.

Irzani, the most practical way is to go into US through ADP and u must make sure ur results are good. Simple.
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Alaxa , no worries mate. Everyone tells me the same thing , thats why my options are quite open, if i happen to get a job in the AE field, then its a plus , if i dont get it, its alright , i can work in any other fields.
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QUOTE(latias93 @ Mar 3 2011, 12:43 AM)
Yeah! I mean, look at the size of each STATE alone. Most are bigger than Peninsula Malaysia.. we're only as big as what, the Florida peninsula? tongue.gif

Indeed, I'll be staying at a dormitory (there are several to choose from, there are coed, boys only, girls only, over 21 only) which they provide shuttle buses to and from the campus (or you can take the public transport if you want). A meal plan is provided, we can choose whichever that is most flexible for us. Well, that 36,000 USD is all-in. Tuition, lodging, meal-plan, and also estimated personal expense. The housing cost actually varies, depending on your taste. You wanna share the room with another guy or you'd rather be alone? No bathroom? Half bath? Full bath? The full price list can be found here http://www.academyart.edu/campushousing/costs.html . They also have a housing page specifically for freshmen like me. You can also take a virtual tour of the rooms in different dorms, if you wanna get a 'feel' of it. smile.gif http://www.academyart.edu/campushousing/in...g_freshman.html
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Man, I think I really need to think about where I gotta stay if I were to study there tongue.gif Btw, do you get to travel out of state or even back to MY during holiday seasons?

And, just wondering, was the TOEFL you took difficult? You have to sit for a short course before applying for the test itself right?
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QUOTE(LZ Zach @ Mar 3 2011, 08:29 PM)
Man, I think I really need to think about where I gotta stay if I were to study there  tongue.gif Btw, do you get to travel out of state or even back to MY during holiday seasons?

And, just wondering, was the TOEFL you took difficult? You have to sit for a short course before applying for the test itself right?
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Hi there wave.gif a brief intro of myself. Last sem in INTI AUP, majoring in CS.

TOEFL will not be difficult if you're used to speaking English. You don't need to take a course before sitting for TOEFL, but it will definitely help. In my opinion, get yourself familiar with the test format ie. test duration, what you'll be tested for, basically just reading, listening, speaking and writing (in that order). Still, practices are important to score well in TOEFL, especially in the speaking part (at least for me speaking is the most difficult part as I got nervous sad.gif)
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QUOTE(tonnect91 @ Mar 3 2011, 08:51 PM)
Hi there wave.gif a brief intro of myself. Last sem in INTI AUP, majoring in CS.

TOEFL will not be difficult if you're used to speaking English. You don't need to take a course before sitting for TOEFL, but it will definitely help. In my opinion, get yourself familiar with the test format ie. test duration, what you'll be tested for, basically just reading, listening, speaking and writing (in that order). Still, practices are important to score well in TOEFL, especially in the speaking part (at least for me speaking is the most difficult part as I got nervous sad.gif)
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Hey, thanks for the reply, could you provide a little more insights of it? biggrin.gif And you did take the exam in centers like ELS, am I right?

And what's CS? blink.gif

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QUOTE(LZ Zach @ Mar 3 2011, 08:58 PM)
Hey, thanks for the reply, could you provide a little more insights of it?  biggrin.gif And you did take the exam in centers like ELS, am I right?

And what's CS? blink.gif
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CS = Computer Science biggrin.gif

Insights? What I feel about TOEFL is it really tests your confidence rather than your English, although you must have a strong foundation in English ie. your vocabulary must be good (though its standard is way lower than that of SAT). Reading is easy, if you know your English. Listening is OK, just that you have to focus on the lecture/conversation for quite sometime (~5 min). For these 2 sections, one of them will have an extra section (not sure what they call it), that is, you'll have either more articles to read or more conversations to listen. For my case, I have to endure those [c]boring[/c] "interesting" talks for 9 times!!! (the duration of the listening topic gets longer and longer, the most is around 5 minutes) At first I tried to note down every single details I think is somewhat important, but I gradually got tired of it. So, instead of writing everything down, I just sat there and listen the talk as a whole. Guess what, it works!

Speaking...try not to be nervous, and practice some critical thinking as you have little time to prepare for your speech.

Writing. There will be two essays. The first one, you'll read a short article, then listen to a lecture, then write the essay. Normally the article and the lecture will have contradicting points ie. article says a=1, b=2, c=3, but the lecturer says the other way round. So, in your essay, you'll have to relate the points in the article and in the lecturer's speech. The second one will be of a random topic, so this is the time to show your writing skills biggrin.gif One note though, it's better to write more. I wrote ~500 words for the second essay and got quite a decent score. Write an organized, coherent essay.

For TOEFL test centers, you can refer to TOEFL HomePage to check whether the center is available on the test date. I took the test in Subang Jaya near INTI College.
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QUOTE(LZ Zach @ Mar 3 2011, 08:29 PM)
Man, I think I really need to think about where I gotta stay if I were to study there  tongue.gif Btw, do you get to travel out of state or even back to MY during holiday seasons?

And, just wondering, was the TOEFL you took difficult? You have to sit for a short course before applying for the test itself right?
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U will have summer break in US smile.gif unless u wish to continue studying
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QUOTE(LZ Zach @ Mar 3 2011, 08:29 PM)
Man, I think I really need to think about where I gotta stay if I were to study there  tongue.gif Btw, do you get to travel out of state or even back to MY during holiday seasons?

And, just wondering, was the TOEFL you took difficult? You have to sit for a short course before applying for the test itself right?
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It doesn't really matter lah, unless you have relatives there and you wish to stay with them to cut costs! I have a friend who's going to Georgia Tech just because (apart from the fact that the courses that he is interested in are available there) he has an aunt who lives a few miles from the campus.. sweat.gif

I'm not sure wether I'll be able to travel out of state or return to Malaysia, that depends on wether I want to come back or wether my family will come to the States to visit me.. more like, visit the shopping malls here HAHAH.

It's not exactly difficult.. although the way they present the test to you is somewhat foreign to us. Tonnect91 provided a good summary of TOEFL test (which is also how I see it), so read up on that one. No, you don't have to sit for the TOEFL preparatory course.. it costs money (not sure how much) and I believe you have a very high command of English, so you won't need it. You just need to familiarize yourself with the format of the test, that's all. smile.gif

QUOTE(tonnect91 @ Mar 3 2011, 09:32 PM)
CS = Computer Science biggrin.gif

Insights? What I feel about TOEFL is it really tests your confidence rather than your English, although you must have a strong foundation in English ie. your vocabulary must be good (though its standard is way lower than that of SAT). Reading is easy, if you know your English. Listening is OK, just that you have to focus on the lecture/conversation for quite sometime (~5 min). For these 2 sections, one of them will have an extra section (not sure what they call it), that is, you'll have either more articles to read or more conversations to listen. For my case, I have to endure those [c]boring[/c] "interesting" talks for 9 times!!! (the duration of the listening topic gets longer and longer, the most is around 5 minutes) At first I tried to note down every single details I think is somewhat important, but I gradually got tired of it. So, instead of writing everything down, I just sat there and listen the talk as a whole. Guess what, it works!

Speaking...try not to be nervous, and practice some critical thinking as you have little time to prepare for your speech.

Writing. There will be two essays. The first one, you'll read a short article, then listen to a lecture, then write the essay. Normally the article and the lecture will have contradicting points ie. article says a=1, b=2, c=3, but the lecturer says the other way round. So, in your essay, you'll have to relate the points in the article and in the lecturer's speech. The second one will be of a random topic, so this is the time to show your writing skills biggrin.gif One note though, it's better to write more. I wrote ~500 words for the second essay and got quite a decent score. Write an organized, coherent essay.

For TOEFL test centers, you can refer to TOEFL HomePage to check whether the center is available on the test date. I took the test in Subang Jaya near INTI College.
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I second what tonnect91 said about TOEFL. I was rather nervous during the speaking part (I did not prepare for the TOEFL at all - totally forgot about it) and half of the time allocated for answering into the microphone were garbled sounds and "err.. ahh.. um..". sweat.gif

Nevertheless, I did manage to squeeze in the points when I DID speak some sense.. I got 100 for my TOEFL score. smile.gif
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QUOTE(latias93 @ Mar 4 2011, 01:13 AM)
It doesn't really matter lah, unless you have relatives there and you wish to stay with them to cut costs! I have a friend who's going to Georgia Tech just because (apart from the fact that the courses that he is interested in are available there) he has an aunt who lives a few miles from the campus.. sweat.gif

I'm not sure wether I'll be able to travel out of state or return to Malaysia, that depends on wether I want to come back or wether my family will come to the States to visit me.. more like, visit the shopping malls here HAHAH.

It's not exactly difficult.. although the way they present the test to you is somewhat foreign to us. Tonnect91 provided a good summary of TOEFL test (which is also how I see it), so read up on that one. No, you don't have to sit for the TOEFL preparatory course.. it costs money (not sure how much) and I believe you have a very high command of English, so you won't need it. You just need to familiarize yourself with the format of the test, that's all. smile.gif
I second what tonnect91 said about TOEFL. I was rather nervous during the speaking part (I did not prepare for the TOEFL at all - totally forgot about it) and half of the time allocated for answering into the microphone were garbled sounds and "err.. ahh.. um..". sweat.gif

Nevertheless, I did manage to squeeze in the points when I DID speak some sense.. I got 100 for my TOEFL score. smile.gif
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wow. u all are reli good rclxms.gif

Lz zach, do u speak in english among ur friends?
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One more word on the TOEFL thing. My English is good enough that native English speakers didn't believe I had never lived in an English speaking country (before, of course, I actually did come to live in an English speaking country to work in English to Spanish Translation). Even if your language skills are not THAT good, the exam is still pretty easy, even if it is a little bit annoying to take. That said, I wouldn't go in cold... even with my level of English, I still took some lessons beforehand, to make sure I knew what I was getting into.
Just get a private teacher that will show you around the exam and tell where you need work instead of signing up for a full lessons course.

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QUOTE(LZ Zach @ Mar 3 2011, 08:29 PM)
Man, I think I really need to think about where I gotta stay if I were to study there  tongue.gif Btw, do you get to travel out of state or even back to MY during holiday seasons?

And, just wondering, was the TOEFL you took difficult? You have to sit for a short course before applying for the test itself right?
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you just need get the practice book and CD for TOEFL and practice those test and you should be alright.
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QUOTE(dreamer101 @ Mar 2 2011, 06:57 AM)
thenemesis,

3) Those who work and pay their own way through college.  And. this kind of people do not go for the most expensive school.

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After deducting cash from on-campus jobs, the cost per year is just slightly more than what you pay studying in Taylors.
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QUOTE(tonnect91 @ Mar 3 2011, 09:32 PM)
CS = Computer Science

Insights? What I feel about TOEFL is it really tests your confidence rather than your English, although you must have a strong foundation in English ie. your vocabulary must be good (though its standard is way lower than that of SAT). Reading is easy, if you know your English. Listening is OK, just that you have to focus on the lecture/conversation for quite sometime (~5 min). For these 2 sections, one of them will have an extra section (not sure what they call it), that is, you'll have either more articles to read or more conversations to listen. For my case, I have to endure those [c]boring[/c] "interesting" talks for 9 times!!! (the duration of the listening topic gets longer and longer, the most is around 5 minutes) At first I tried to note down every single details I think is somewhat important, but I gradually got tired of it. So, instead of writing everything down, I just sat there and listen the talk as a whole. Guess what, it works!

Speaking...try not to be nervous, and practice some critical thinking as you have little time to prepare for your speech.

Writing. There will be two essays. The first one, you'll read a short article, then listen to a lecture, then write the essay. Normally the article and the lecture will have contradicting points ie. article says a=1, b=2, c=3, but the lecturer says the other way round. So, in your essay, you'll have to relate the points in the article and in the lecturer's speech. The second one will be of a random topic, so this is the time to show your writing skills biggrin.gif One note though, it's better to write more. I wrote ~500 words for the second essay and got quite a decent score. Write an organized, coherent essay.

For TOEFL test centers, you can refer to TOEFL HomePage to check whether the center is available on the test date. I took the test in Subang Jaya near INTI College.
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Is the whole test itself long? Like continuous or does it stop at intervals for you to prepare/rest? blink.gif Very curious about that part, thanks for sharing your experience anyways biggrin.gif

QUOTE(thenemesis @ Mar 3 2011, 09:44 PM)
U will have summer break in US smile.gif unless u wish to continue studying
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Oh I see, thanks.

QUOTE(latias93 @ Mar 4 2011, 01:13 AM)
It doesn't really matter lah, unless you have relatives there and you wish to stay with them to cut costs! I have a friend who's going to Georgia Tech just because (apart from the fact that the courses that he is interested in are available there) he has an aunt who lives a few miles from the campus.. sweat.gif

I'm not sure wether I'll be able to travel out of state or return to Malaysia, that depends on wether I want to come back or wether my family will come to the States to visit me.. more like, visit the shopping malls here HAHAH.

It's not exactly difficult.. although the way they present the test to you is somewhat foreign to us. Tonnect91 provided a good summary of TOEFL test (which is also how I see it), so read up on that one. No, you don't have to sit for the TOEFL preparatory course.. it costs money (not sure how much) and I believe you have a very high command of English, so you won't need it. You just need to familiarize yourself with the format of the test, that's all. smile.gif
I second what tonnect91 said about TOEFL. I was rather nervous during the speaking part (I did not prepare for the TOEFL at all - totally forgot about it) and half of the time allocated for answering into the microphone were garbled sounds and "err.. ahh.. um..". sweat.gif

Nevertheless, I did manage to squeeze in the points when I DID speak some sense.. I got 100 for my TOEFL score. smile.gif
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Wow, 100 out of 120, congrats laugh.gif
I can't say for sure if my english is really good, but I love english anyways.

I also did a registration on their web a few days ago, and I thought I would receive newsletter to my mail, and I unexpectedly received it by mail today?! It's a catalog it seems?!



QUOTE(thenemesis @ Mar 4 2011, 02:13 AM)
wow. u all are reli good  rclxms.gif

Lz zach, do u speak in english among ur friends?
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Yeah I do, but I'm not really confident in it if you say it's a test.

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QUOTE(LZ Zach @ Mar 4 2011, 04:25 PM)
Is the whole test itself long? Like continuous or does it stop at intervals for you to prepare/rest? blink.gif Very curious about that part, thanks for sharing your experience anyways biggrin.gif
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The total time is ~ 4 hours, but you can leave if you have finish it earlier. It does have a 10 minute break after listening. In the listening and speaking section you would have some time to prepare before answering/going to next question (not sure for listening though tongue.gif )

It's not a test, just an English exercise. Think like that and you'll be fine biggrin.gif

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