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post Jan 22 2018, 09:06 PM

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QUOTE(cyclone9 @ Jan 22 2018, 08:46 PM)
prefer polish all areas

do I need any special chemical or liquid ?
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Then go for pro. Example:

http://www.polishmarble.com.my/
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post Jan 23 2018, 08:01 AM

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to install tiles over painted wall, how do we treat the wall to ensure the tiles stick?

do we scrap off the paint, or do we use a hammer on it?
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post Jan 23 2018, 08:20 AM

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QUOTE(topearn @ Jan 22 2018, 04:47 PM)
Is it easy to stick tiles on my bathroom walls ? The existing tiles is only up to 5 feet and I want to add another layer of tiles to it.
I will need to rough out the tile areas by chiseling out existing cement and then cover the whole tile back with cement and just stick on the wall ? How to ensure the tile will not fall out while drying ?
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QUOTE(advocado @ Jan 23 2018, 08:01 AM)
to install tiles over painted wall, how do we treat the wall to ensure the tiles stick?

do we scrap off the paint, or do we use a hammer on it?
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My bathroom was also 5' high. I added 2 more rows to make it about 7'+

The contractor just chipped the wall with chisel randomly on the painted wall. The chipped hole was < 1" deep. Distance between each were around 10" perhaps. Nothing was done on painted wall except for chipped wall that removed the pint. Then they just put tile cement and laid the tile on it. Work done on 3 bathrooms and took around 6 hours I think including lunch break laugh.gif

No problem until now and it already has been 10 years.
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post Jan 23 2018, 08:30 AM

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QUOTE(Zot @ Jan 23 2018, 08:20 AM)
My bathroom was also 5' high. I added 2 more rows to make it about 7'+

The contractor just chipped the wall with chisel randomly on the painted wall. The chipped hole was < 1" deep. Distance between each were around 10" perhaps. Nothing was done on painted wall except for chipped wall that removed the pint. Then they just put tile cement and laid the tile on it. Work done on 3 bathrooms and took around 6 hours I think including lunch break  laugh.gif

No problem until now and it already has been 10 years.
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Use tile cement ? Can use normal white cement ?

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post Jan 23 2018, 08:49 AM

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Damn ! My bathroom tiles are 8" x 8". Have they stop manufacturing such small tiles ? I see White Horse site tiles minimum sizes are 12" x 12".
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post Jan 23 2018, 09:22 AM

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QUOTE(topearn @ Jan 23 2018, 08:30 AM)
Use tile cement ? Can use normal white cement ?
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The white color cement between tile is called grout. It is mixture of cement, water and fine sand. It can be any color. Normally white is used. For tiling cement is used normally in olden days, but now special mixture of cement is used which include adhesive material. This can ease the tiling work and reduce time.

After tiles are fixed to the wall, the gap between tiles are filled with grout which normally white in color. If old grout yellowish and dirty, you can get contractor to re-grout it to look new. I don't know how much though laugh.gif
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post Jan 23 2018, 09:27 AM

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QUOTE(topearn @ Jan 23 2018, 08:49 AM)
Damn ! My bathroom tiles are 8" x 8". Have they stop manufacturing such small tiles ? I see White Horse site tiles minimum sizes are 12" x 12".
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Still got. The problem is the pattern may be discontinued and most likely even if you get the same series, the color does not match. Color change over time and color also slightly different among different tiles batches

Now probably not 8" x 8", but 200 x 200mm
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post Jan 23 2018, 09:48 PM

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QUOTE(topearn @ Jan 23 2018, 08:49 AM)
Damn ! My bathroom tiles are 8" x 8". Have they stop manufacturing such small tiles ? I see White Horse site tiles minimum sizes are 12" x 12".
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how old is your house? if within 1-2 years, some place somewhere may still have stock. you should ask management for the exact tile brand & code number so you can ask around. Jalan Ipoh whole road selling tiles. go ask all the shops.
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post Jan 23 2018, 10:03 PM

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QUOTE(advocado @ Jan 23 2018, 09:48 PM)
how old is your house? if within 1-2 years, some place somewhere may still have stock. you should ask management for the exact tile brand & code number so you can ask around. Jalan Ipoh whole road selling tiles. go ask all the shops.
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No chance, as my house over 20 years old. I stay in Subang Jaya; what is the nearest tile shops ?

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post Jan 24 2018, 07:58 AM

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QUOTE(topearn @ Jan 23 2018, 10:03 PM)
No chance, as my house over 20 years old. I stay in Subang Jaya; what is the nearest tile shops ?
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Maybe you want to use different pattern on additional 2 rows. It can be nice. Otherwise, replace the whole tiles.

Just Google "construction material subang jaya". Many to choose from. Most likely you can ask them for contractors contact. Usually contractors leave their contact numbers to shops just in case costumers looking for services.
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I am surprising how I dad survive over the 50 years
His labour charge only rm 2.5 persqft no matter floor and tile
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post Feb 27 2018, 11:12 AM

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QUOTE(AgnesB @ Feb 20 2018, 12:33 AM)
I am surprising how I dad survive over the 50 years
His labour charge only rm 2.5 persqft no matter floor and tile
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Mind to share what is the labour charge for installing tiles now in Klang Valley, I am still surveying for quotation biggrin.gif
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post Feb 27 2018, 11:10 PM

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anyone here use Epoxy for grouting? White Cement seems to be prone to cracks but Epoxy are very expensive. can't imagine how much it cost for 10kg epoxy.
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QUOTE(advocado @ Feb 27 2018, 11:10 PM)
anyone here use Epoxy for grouting? White Cement seems to be prone to cracks but Epoxy are very expensive. can't imagine how much it cost for 10kg epoxy.
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don't bother with white cement. it is weak and will change color with time.

just use normal cement and add on waterproof additive to it

something like this : http://www.pyeproducts.com/prodetails.php?...de=BUWP&lang=en

end result with be a very dark color cement that is very hard and strong. likely to be fungus resistant too due to the hardness and very low water penetration/absorption.
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QUOTE(advocado @ Feb 27 2018, 11:10 PM)
anyone here use Epoxy for grouting? White Cement seems to be prone to cracks but Epoxy are very expensive. can't imagine how much it cost for 10kg epoxy.
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Instead of powder cement-like grouting, use the silicone type. They are meant for grouting. Sold in tube and can be applied straight to the tile. Squeeze along the line between tiles. It will not grow mold and waterproof. Common nowadays in hardware store I believe.
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post Feb 28 2018, 08:55 AM

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QUOTE(Zot @ Feb 28 2018, 08:02 AM)
Instead of powder cement-like grouting, use the silicone type. They are meant for grouting. Sold in tube and can be applied straight to the tile. Squeeze along the line between tiles. It will not grow mold and waterproof. Common nowadays in hardware store I believe.
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but silicone type are flexible and looks shiny/rubbery like those used in kitchen cabinets right?

the normal cement don't look well on light colored tiles, especially some existing using white grout.


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post Feb 28 2018, 09:56 AM

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QUOTE(advocado @ Feb 28 2018, 08:55 AM)
but silicone type are flexible and looks shiny/rubbery like those used in kitchen cabinets right?

the normal cement don't look well on light colored tiles, especially some existing using white grout.
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My bad. I was imaging wall tiles in bathroom. I hate those mold that need to be scrub from time to time laugh.gif

Epoxy grout material more expensive because it is meant for stronger grout as you said.

This is what I found:

http://www.allaboutwaterproof.com/Sikadur%...20Epoxy%20Grout

You can contact store that sell Kerapoxy P from this website. Click Where to Buy Our Product. I don't have the current price but was about RM430/10kg about 2 years ago blink.gif
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QUOTE(Zot @ Feb 28 2018, 09:56 AM)
My bad. I was imaging wall tiles in bathroom. I hate those mold that need to be scrub from time to time  laugh.gif

Epoxy grout material more expensive because it is meant for stronger grout as you said.

This is what I found:

http://www.allaboutwaterproof.com/Sikadur%...20Epoxy%20Grout

You can contact store that sell Kerapoxy P from this website. Click Where to Buy Our Product. I don't have the current price but was about RM430/10kg about 2 years ago  blink.gif
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but it's also grey color.

i notice Sika cement that has waterproof is super expensive. their tile cement that is Part A & B waterproof cost rm80 per bag. yes i ask shop keeper rm18? 80.

but epoxy is expensive lo. and not many shop sell.

for waterproof i just use the Davidco Part A + B. around rm37 per 4L. but for white cement was told Davidco 6kg one less likely turn yellow.
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QUOTE(advocado @ Feb 28 2018, 10:03 AM)
but it's also grey color.

i notice Sika cement that has waterproof is super expensive. their tile cement that is Part A & B waterproof cost rm80 per bag. yes i ask shop keeper rm18? 80.

but epoxy is expensive lo. and not many shop sell.

for waterproof i just use the Davidco Part A + B. around rm37 per 4L. but for white cement was told Davidco 6kg one less likely turn yellow.
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You asked about epoxy type. So, this Sika is epoxy type and not just about waterproofing.

If you want white color or any color, then contact the other link.

One more thing. The problem with white or light color epoxy resin is that they can easily gets yellowish. This is common on any epoxy based grout. On the other hand, the colored epoxy grout may stain certain type of tile. So, need trial I guess smile.gif

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post Feb 28 2018, 10:04 PM

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QUOTE(Zot @ Feb 28 2018, 10:10 AM)
You asked about epoxy type. So, this Sika is epoxy type and not just about waterproofing.

If you want white color or any color, then contact the other link.

One more thing. The problem with white or light color epoxy resin is that they can easily gets yellowish. This is common on any epoxy based grout. On the other hand, the colored epoxy grout may stain certain type of tile. So, need trial I guess  smile.gif
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hmm i though the perks of epoxy is that it doesn't turn yellowish easily like white cement?

that epoxy is waterproof so i'm saying waterproof combo cement cost alot more. Sika Tile cement 88 cost rm13 per bag. Sika Tile Cement Water Proof Part B cost rm80 per bag.

if you buy a Sika 88 & a Davidco Waterproofing cement Part A + B (rm37 per liter), it's cheaper as you just need a thin wet layer of waterproof cement then use normal tile cement.

i saw some tile shops got tons of color choices for their grout not sure what material, got a piece of sample with many colors like paint catalog. but i never seen people or shop use it though.

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