Im already hear the word more than 20 yrs and Im a good person.

Can it mean i have graduated and no more purpose to b there? Since its repeat every year.

Thats y i wonder y ppl go.

You hear but you have no revelation of his word.

God's word is the Truth

Romans 3:23: for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God.
Ecclesiastes 7:20 There is not a righteous man on earth who does what is right and never sins.

if you call yourself Good then you also deny God's word as the truth because nobody is Good.

dafuq? u have a bible in front of you or just pull out from your head?

If like dat im sure u already have many revelation about the word. wat the purpose u still go church?

Nobody have 100% revelation of the entire Bible, God made it in such away so that we don't get lazy studying the bible everyday.
It's an everyday effort to know the Bible.

Hint: To know God's word is to know God himself. It's not easy. That's why we come to church to learn but the best Bible Teacher is the Holy Spirit teaching you in everyday life experience.

Romans 12:2 Do not be conformed to this world, but be transformed by the renewal of your mind, that by testing you may discern what is the will of God, what is good and acceptable and perfect.

No, I do not treat everyone with love and respect. Yes, I admit that. I hear the word but I can't entirely execute His word.

What are you trying to tell me anyway?

Haha ... we have a misconception about the church ... or "going to church"...

God’s intention concerning the church is first to produce many sons with His life (1:5). All these sons have the life of God and inherit all that He is, all that He has, all that He planned, and all that He accomplished. Every member of the church is a son of God and also will eventually be an heir of God. In this sense, God’s intention for the church is to multiply and reproduce Himself, to have a mass reproduction of Himself. If a man has many sons, all these sons are his multiplication. A few years ago, there was only the one man by himself, but today there are many of him—he is the original, and his sons are his duplication and multiplication. The multiplication of God is His family, and His family is the church.

Ephesians 1:5 speaks of the sonship. The real meaning of sonship is the multiplication of God. God is unlimited, but God still needs a great multiplication. After God created Adam, He told him to multiply and replenish the earth, that is, to fill up the earth (Gen. 1:28). God’s intention for the church is to produce many sons, to multiply Himself. John 12:24 tells us that the one grain would become many grains. The many grains are the multiplication, duplication, and reproduction of the one grain.

I think i havent reach that level to understand wat u toking

i think u dun go church to multiply

that would be.. sick

I'm saying you can because

1 John 4:4 Little children, you are from God and have overcome them, for he who is in you is greater than he who is in the world.

If you refuse then you deceive yourself. that's the point.

It's wrong for somebody else to deceive others but to deceive yourself is a greater implication.

Not entirely true. The church is the foundation for fellowship and for learning the word of god especially for many Christians who are still immature in their christian walk.

The multiplication can happen outside of the Church as well.

Haha ... again you fall back on your concept of "going to church".... it is not a place but an entity.

The church is the totality of the divine sonship. Originally, Jesus Christ as the unique Son of God was the individual expression of God. John 1:18 says, “No one has ever seen God; the only begotten Son, who is in the bosom of the Father, He has declared Him.” This expression of God by the individual Son, Jesus Christ, was a perfect expression, but it did not fulfill God’s goal. God’s goal is to have the totality of the divine sonship. As the redeemed, forgiven, saved, and regenerated sons of God, we have the divine nature of God (2 Pet. 1:4).

So the church is a group of people having the life and living of God, living out Christ on the earth today.

This post has been edited by pehkay: Feb 27 2012, 02:45 PM

Can u guys talk normal without the Jon 1:1 stuff?

I think i havent reachthe level yet

okay here's something you might be interested in.

If you master a high level of God's word, you can do anything and everything in your life.

To add this.

The Church is not the really the building or the walls, It's the people. That is the Church.

So u mean the church is made up of all people not the building? Like dat there no point of me going to church but i carry the church with me without having go church lo. Now i kinda understand abit and is more logic than going churhc every week

not to insult but that kinda MLM talk abit

Err ....I didn't meant multiplication of numbers Hope you have a spiritual understanding of the church in Ephesians.

The church is constituted of God the Father's nature and life, God the Son's element, and God the Spirit's essence (Eph. 1:4-5, 10-11, 13). Ephesians 1:4 and 5 say that God the Father chose us to be holy and predestinated us unto sonship. For us to be holy, to be sanctified, we need His nature. In the whole universe, nothing is holy except God Himself in His divine nature. Only the Father's divine nature is sanctified, holy. God wants to make us holy, sanctified. Therefore, He has to impart His holy nature into us. The Father also has predestinated us unto sonship. For Him to make us sons to participate in His divine sonship involves His life. If He did not impart His life into us, we could not be His sons. Therefore, for us to be sanctified, to be holy, means that we have God's holy nature; for us to be His sons means that we have His life. Ephesians 1:4 and 5 indicate that God the Father as the source imparts His nature and life into His chosen people.

Ephesians 1:7-12 speaks of the Son's redemption. The Son brings us into Himself as the element and the sphere into which we have been redeemed. He redeemed us out of the "trash can," and the destination of His redemption is Himself. He redeemed us out of sin, out of the world, and out of the tyranny of Satan into Himself as the element and sphere. By this redemption we, the fallen sinners, have been put into Christ as our element and sphere.

With Christ as our divine element, we have been made the inheritance of God (v. 11). We were lost, fallen, corrupt sinners. Corrupt sinners cannot be God's inheritance. But we corrupt, sinful people have been redeemed into Christ. Christ is now our element and our sphere, in which and with which we have been made a treasure unto God to be His inheritance. Christ as the divine element has been imparted into us.

Ephesians 1:13 says that we were also sealed with the Holy Spirit. The Father's nature and life, the Son's element, and the Spirit's essence are imparted into us by the sealing. When a seal with sealing ink is stamped on a piece of paper, the ink saturates the paper. The ink as the essence gets into the sealed material. We are the sealed material, and the Spirit brings the essence of the divine element of the divine source into us.

Eventually, the sealing Spirit makes us the issue of the Triune God to be the organic Body of Christ (Eph. 1:19-23). We are the issue of the dispensing of the Divine Trinity, which is the "inking" of the Triune God into us. The Father's life and nature, the Son's element, and the Spirit's essence are dispensed into our being to saturate us thoroughly. Then we become the issue of the dispensing of the Triune God. We are the issue of the essence, the element, and the source. We are the issue of the Triune God, and this issue is the church, the Body of Christ. The Father is in the Son, the Son is the Spirit, and the Spirit is the essence of the Body. Our Triune God-the Father, the Son, and the Spirit-is in the Body.

Haha you wish! Just j/k ...

The reality of the Body of Christ (if you ever heard the term) is the corporate living of the perfected God-men, a living that is exactly the same as the way Jesus lived on earth; these perfected God-men live a meal-offering church life, a Spirit-filled, resurrection-saturated, cross-purifying human living as a duplication of Christ’s human living.

In other words, you alone living a Christian life alone is not much of a testimony of God . This is why the church is a corporate living of a group of God-men (Christians). Not just meeting of the church. It's more a living than just a routine "going to church" unfortunately.

Well I agree with what you said I've summed up what you said above simplify in #694

But you are still young in your Christian walk, you need for time being someone to guide you, that's why Churches have leaders and Care groups.

Alone is very hard to grow.

I'll tell you what, anything you're not sure you can PM me I can be your temporary older brother in Christ and help you in knowledge whatever I know of.

This post has been edited by unknown warrior: Feb 27 2012, 02:59 PM

im dont think im willing to go the christian walk. I dun even know if i believe in something i canot see or feel.