The topic at RWI is generally for all religions. I would prefer a topic for each religion, so that I can refute them all. I cannot use my arguments against the Koran for the Bible, vice versa.

Sorry guys, and Moderator too.

Wow .. so much activities these few days Here is something I enjoyed ....

In Leviticus 2:1-13 we see the meal offering, which was ordained by God for the people of Israel – for God’s satisfaction. The meal offering was composed of fine flour mingled with oil, and frankincense on top of it. Also, salt needs to be added – salt shouldn’t be missing from the offering. This type was fulfilled in the person of the Lord Jesus, who had the highest humanity (the fine flour) mingled with divinity (the oil, the Spirit of God), living by the resurrection life and manifesting the aroma of resurrection (frankincense), and always living under the cross (the salt). Today we want to experience them, enjoy them, and become the reproduction of Christ as the meal offering church life.

The fine flour – the perfect humanity of Christ

If you read the Gospels you will be impressed with the high standard of humanity the Lord Jesus had. He had the highest and the best humanity, living a life according to the highest standard of morality. Story after story and case after case, we can see that His humanity was so high, and “it was oiled” with divinity, anointed by the Spirit of God. The Lord Jesus didn’t live only by and in His humanity – He lived by the divine life which saturated and mingled His human nature, having a life of a God-man – something that the world has never seen before!

The Lord Jesus was conceived of the Holy Spirit (see Matt. 1:20 and Luke 1:35), having the Spirit as His essence. Also, when He went out to minister, He was anointed with the Holy Spirit outwardly for His work (Matt. 3:16; John 1:32). Inwardly and outwardly Christ was oiled with the Holy Spirit, living a mingled life – a life of the divine life mingled with the human life. He expressed the bountiful God in His rich attributes through His aromatic virtues, not by living His human life in the flesh but by living His divine life in resurrection.

Frankincense – the fragrance of Christ in resurrection

There was an aroma about Christ when He was on the earth – people were inexplicably drawn to Him, absorbing the words coming out of His mouth, wanting to be with Him and around Him to the point that they forgot about their eating, and even desiring to touch the fringe of His garment to be healed… This is frankincense – the fragrance of Christ in resurrection. The Lord Jesus is resurrection and life (John 11:25), and He lived a life in resurrection, constantly denying His natural human life and living in the resurrection life.

Even though the Lord Jesus suffered a lot – He was rejected by His hometown people, His family, the priests, the religious leaders, He was mocked, persecuted, tested, and He did not have a place where to rest His head, etc – what came out of Him as a fragrance was NOT the sufferings but a fragrance of resurrection. The aroma of resurrection exuded out of Him, and people saw a man mingled with God living in resurrection on the earth. Nothing is as sweet, as fragrant, as attractive, and as pleasant as this aroma – it is satisfying to God and pleasing to man.

Salt – the cross of Christ

Salt is an element which kills germs, seasons, and preserves. It is a type of the death of Christ, the cross of Christ. God specifically ordained that salt would be added to the meal offering – what was pleasing to God and what satisfied Him was to see Christ living a life under the cross by the power of resurrection. The salt in Lev. 1:13 is the salt of the covenant of God – which is incorruptible and unchangeable. Christ was seasoned with salt – from manger to the cross He lived a crucified life, denying Himself, listening to the Father, and living by the divine life in resurrection (see John 6:57).

In the church life we need to have adequate salt – so that any ambition and natural affection would be crossed out. Anything that is natural is being killed by the germ-killing cross of Christ, and as long as the cross is here, salt is here and there’s no germs! By living a crucified life – one with Christ in His crucifixion – our ambition to be someone, our natural affection to the ones we like, our selective love, and anything of the natural man is being crossed out, salted, and killed. What remains is a sweet fragrance of living in Christ’s resurrection – a satisfying and pleasant aroma…
the meal offering church life

When you consider the life of the Lord Jesus and His living you will appreciate Him and love Him – truly, this One is the Father’s Beloved, so perfect, such a high humanity, living a life under the constant killing of the cross, a life in resurrection, a human life mingled with the divine life. This One is our food – we can eat Him, take Him in, be constituted with Him, and even become Him. By eating Jesus as the meal offering we become the corporate church life meal offering – so pleasing to God for His satisfaction! How we need to eat Him, allow the cross to operate, and live by another life – the divine life!

We are slowly and surely becoming the reproduction of Jesus Christ as the corporate meal offering church life! The genuine church today is nothing else but the corporate living of the believers in Christ who are the reproduction and duplication of Christ – it is Jesus living again in His believers. We are imitating Christ in His life by eating Christ and becoming Christ’s reproduction organically. We all are learning to deny ourselves, remaining in Christ’s death, living under the cross, by the power of Christ’s resurrection. When an unbeliever comes in and sees this, he senses that God is among us! Wow, the corporate God-man living, the reproduction of Christ as the meal-offering church life!

This is a social thread for Christians. We do explain Christianity but debate is left to RWI. For a more detailed explanation, check out the first post.

Read the topic. You can debate 1 religion at a time. I believe currently they are debating Islam.

To put it simply it's for fellowship among believers.

How about non-believers then?

As described by jdreamer in the first post:

*I'm not trying to make this thread into a flaming zone, but still, we welcome any religious forumers to join us here. So, if ur intended to come in here to insult our religion, please stay away from this thread. And if u have any questions about the gospel songs, or even the churches, environments around the churches etc, feel free to ask.

Amen !! Jesus Christ Our Saviour.. Through him before GOD.

It should not be a surprise because Jesus said the reason they hate us is because they hate Him first.

They who are of this world are blinded spiritually.

The reason for the hatred because they are wounded themselves in their lives by the Enemy.

John 10:10: The thief comes only to steal and kill and destroy. I came that they may have life and have it abundantly.

wow.

God Bless you Amour.

Hi fellow brothers n sis in christ,

I wanna discuss When you go to church wat is your objective?

For one to worship God and two to learn the word.

erm what kind of question is THAT?

Worship God as in thanking him as a creator?

LEarn wat word?

Im ask becos i feel no meaning go church like waste time but cos is since young like habit. To me is meaningless.

Im wonder if u guys also go cos of habit and train since young but u actually dunno wat purpose u there.

No worshiping him because he has broken the chain of oppression, the chain of Financial Lack, the Chain of ignorance, the Chain of Negativism, The Chain of Doubt, etc etc but Most importantly of all the Chain of Sin which result in Eternal Death.

The word is the word of God, the most powerful thing in the world.

Many people feel the same like you do only because you yourself kept your distance from God.

I dunno wat u toking bout lol

nevermind.. doesnt seem like there's a purpose

Church is kinda .... bleh.. I always yawn when I go there. And I don't even listen to what the Father says because it's either it is something I already know or the speech he presents is very very boring.... Other than that, everything seems ok2 to me..

Well to put it simply, you cannot go where you want to go if you don't know where you are in life. Think about that for a moment. It's a powerful thought.

If you have questions or doubt about your Life, it's time for you to Ask God why do you need to go to Church.

I donthave question about my life. I have plans and goals and know where to head and work towards it.

The only question i have is why do i go to chruch or even why do other ppl go to chruch? Whats in their mind? Most probably thinking abou dinner while in church

Knowing and practicing God's commandment are 2 different things.
For example, Do you threat everyone with respect and love?

Can you honestly answer that?

If you have not, then you deceive yourself as only hearer of the word but not a doer.

Good Luck to your plans.


John 15:5: "I am the vine; you are the branches. If a man remains in me and I in him, he will bear much fruit; apart from me you can do nothing.


Commit your plans to Him.

Like I said Going to Church to worship God and learn his Word. That is as simple as it gets.