QUOTE(thelion4ever @ Apr 9 2012, 05:23 PM)
You think? It's not to do or not ... right or wrong
Just follow your inner sense of life / anointing in your spirit which is regulated by the law of Spirit of life. If the Spirit says no, then don't.
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QUOTE(pehkay @ Apr 9 2012, 05:43 PM) You think? I think its in the bible :3 It's not to do or not ... right or wrong Just follow your inner sense of life / anointing in your spirit which is regulated by the law of Spirit of life. If the Spirit says no, then don't. The verse where it says errr, do not mark ur body or something like that |
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Apr 9 2012, 05:57 PM
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QUOTE(pehkay @ Apr 9 2012, 05:43 PM) You think? It's not to do or not ... right or wrong Just follow your inner sense of life / anointing in your spirit which is regulated by the law of Spirit of life. If the Spirit says no, then don't. QUOTE(thelion4ever @ Apr 9 2012, 05:56 PM) I think its in the bible :3 Leviticus 18:29The verse where it says errr, do not mark ur body or something like that New International Version (©1984) "'Do not cut your bodies for the dead or put tattoo marks on yourselves. I am the LORD. New Living Translation (©2007) "Do not cut your bodies for the dead, and do not mark your skin with tattoos. I am the LORD. English Standard Version (©2001) You shall not make any cuts on your body for the dead or tattoo yourselves: I am the LORD. New American Standard Bible (©1995) 'You shall not make any cuts in your body for the dead nor make any tattoo marks on yourselves: I am the LORD. King James Bible (Cambridge Ed.) Ye shall not make any cuttings in your flesh for the dead, nor print any marks upon you: I am the LORD. GOD'S WORD® Translation (©1995) Never slash your body to mourn the dead, and never get a tattoo. I am the LORD. Added on April 9, 2012, 5:58 pmi think this verse should be solid enough on the tattoo discussion This post has been edited by fghvbn: Apr 9 2012, 05:58 PM |
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QUOTE(fghvbn @ Apr 9 2012, 05:57 PM) Leviticus 18:29 My bad New International Version (©1984) "'Do not cut your bodies for the dead or put tattoo marks on yourselves. I am the LORD. New Living Translation (©2007) "Do not cut your bodies for the dead, and do not mark your skin with tattoos. I am the LORD. English Standard Version (©2001) You shall not make any cuts on your body for the dead or tattoo yourselves: I am the LORD. New American Standard Bible (©1995) 'You shall not make any cuts in your body for the dead nor make any tattoo marks on yourselves: I am the LORD. King James Bible (Cambridge Ed.) Ye shall not make any cuttings in your flesh for the dead, nor print any marks upon you: I am the LORD. GOD'S WORD® Translation (©1995) Never slash your body to mourn the dead, and never get a tattoo. I am the LORD. Added on April 9, 2012, 5:58 pmi think this verse should be solid enough on the tattoo discussion Hmm the older translation rendered mark. Oh well....my point is not to take the word as dead letter. It is no different as a law keeper. Even this verse as one of the ordinance in the OT must be living, rhema. In other words, it is living and operating in you through the Spirit. This post has been edited by pehkay: Apr 9 2012, 07:26 PM |
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QUOTE(fghvbn @ Apr 9 2012, 05:57 PM) Leviticus 18:29 We are no longer under the law of the old testament. We are all under the New Covenant.New International Version (©1984) "'Do not cut your bodies for the dead or put tattoo marks on yourselves. I am the LORD. New Living Translation (©2007) "Do not cut your bodies for the dead, and do not mark your skin with tattoos. I am the LORD. English Standard Version (©2001) You shall not make any cuts on your body for the dead or tattoo yourselves: I am the LORD. New American Standard Bible (©1995) 'You shall not make any cuts in your body for the dead nor make any tattoo marks on yourselves: I am the LORD. King James Bible (Cambridge Ed.) Ye shall not make any cuttings in your flesh for the dead, nor print any marks upon you: I am the LORD. GOD'S WORD® Translation (©1995) Never slash your body to mourn the dead, and never get a tattoo. I am the LORD. Added on April 9, 2012, 5:58 pmi think this verse should be solid enough on the tattoo discussion The old law does not apply unless you want to live under the law. You must understand the reason for the Old Testament Law came to be is to reveal Sin. And it's God way of saying you can't reach him through self effort. That's exactly why God gave such a long list of Thou shall not..... Thou shall not..... Thou shall not..... This post has been edited by unknown warrior: Apr 9 2012, 08:16 PM |
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How do you activate your Faith?
QUOTE Hebrews 11:1 Now faith is being sure of what we hope for and certain of what we do not see Basically the nature of Faith is go against the nature of circumstances that you are in. For example when you have financial crisis. 1. Keep on declaring God's Truth over your circumstances. "My God Shall Supply ALL my Needs" (Philippians 4:19) Jesus says you only need Faith as small as a mustard seed. Mustard seed is really small. Warning Pic is really huge, but it's necessary to show you how small is small. » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « You don't need so much X amount of Faith in order for this to work. A mustard seed Faith is all you need to start. 2. The next step is to believe and receive that God's providence is already there by Faith. (Mark 11:24) This inter-relate to No.1. After you activate your faith, keep on believing that you have receive by declaration of God's word. Keep on meditating Any of the Scriptures promises relevant to your needs over and over until it sink in deep and becomes natural. 3. Rest Easy and refuse to be worried. (Matthew 6:25-27) Literally! I really mean it. This takes a lot of determination and will power. But you got to be absolutely resolved to trust God completely. When you give it to God refuse to take it back by worrying. Put your self to rest, breathe easy. And be confident that God is more than able to handle your situation. All these needs practise and takes time but you got to be abosultely resolve to do it if you want any victory as a Christian in your life. |
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QUOTE(fghvbn @ Apr 9 2012, 05:57 PM) Leviticus 18:29 Is this means I cannot tattoo the word I am the LORD on my body?New International Version (©1984) "'Do not cut your bodies for the dead or put tattoo marks on yourselves. I am the LORD. New Living Translation (©2007) "Do not cut your bodies for the dead, and do not mark your skin with tattoos. I am the LORD. English Standard Version (©2001) You shall not make any cuts on your body for the dead or tattoo yourselves: I am the LORD. New American Standard Bible (©1995) 'You shall not make any cuts in your body for the dead nor make any tattoo marks on yourselves: I am the LORD. King James Bible (Cambridge Ed.) Ye shall not make any cuttings in your flesh for the dead, nor print any marks upon you: I am the LORD. GOD'S WORD® Translation (©1995) Never slash your body to mourn the dead, and never get a tattoo. I am the LORD. Added on April 9, 2012, 5:58 pmi think this verse should be solid enough on the tattoo discussion Lucky i only tattoo tribal n no words |
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I put st michael tatoo on my left arms. It depend on a believer. I'm a RC.
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God is not nearly as concern that you threat people right with love rather than observing law to appear religious.
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QUOTE(unknown warrior @ Apr 10 2012, 02:03 PM) God is not nearly as concern that you threat people right with love rather than observing law to appear religious. It's also important to make sure that whatever you do does not cause a weaker brother/sister to stumble/fall when they see what you're doing.If it is not God's desire that you should have a tattoo or not then don't put on a tattoo. Added on April 10, 2012, 2:10 pmI also think that, yes although we now live by Grace but God did not abolish the law in the new testament, He came to fulfil it. Matthew 5:17 New International Version (©1984) "Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them. You can't say "oh we live by grace now, we can ignore the law of GRAVITY", we can try jumping down from buildings now since we are not under the law. That's wrong, the LAW still applies. It's there to guide us This post has been edited by fghvbn: Apr 10 2012, 02:10 PM |
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QUOTE(fghvbn @ Apr 10 2012, 02:07 PM) It's also important to make sure that whatever you do does not cause a weaker brother/sister to stumble/fall when they see what you're doing. Yes He came to fulfil them but by summarising ALL the law into 1 single Law.If it is not God's desire that you should have a tattoo or not then don't put on a tattoo. Added on April 10, 2012, 2:10 pmI also think that, yes although we now live by Grace but God did not abolish the law in the new testament, He came to fulfil it. Matthew 5:17 New International Version (©1984) "Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them. You can't say "oh we live by grace now, we can ignore the law of GRAVITY", we can try jumping down from buildings now since we are not under the law. That's wrong, the LAW still applies. It's there to guide us QUOTE Galations 5:14 The entire law is summed up in a single command: "Love your neighbor as yourself." If you insist to follow all the old law of the testament, there are many which you cannot break including working on a Sabbath day. Don't you understand why Jesus purposely broke the Sabbath by Healing the lame Man? And the religious Authorities tried to kill him? |
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QUOTE(fghvbn @ Apr 10 2012, 02:07 PM) You can't say "oh we live by grace now, we can ignore the law of GRAVITY", we can try jumping down from buildings now since we are not under the law. That's wrong, the LAW still applies. It's there to guide us You cannot choose both, either you live under grace or under law.Under Law you will be judged according to each and every of your actions, you break one, you are as good as breaking all of them and come to condemnation. QUOTE James 2:10 For whoever keeps the whole law and yet stumbles at just one point is guilty of breaking all of it. All of God's Blessing and Promises cannot come to those who live by the Law. QUOTE Romans 4:14 For if those who live by law are heirs, faith has no value and the promise is worthless, |
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QUOTE(fghvbn @ Apr 10 2012, 02:07 PM) It's also important to make sure that whatever you do does not cause a weaker brother/sister to stumble/fall when they see what you're doing. I posted this a while back ... hope it helps you in understanding the different aspects and tied them together:If it is not God's desire that you should have a tattoo or not then don't put on a tattoo. Added on April 10, 2012, 2:10 pmI also think that, yes although we now live by Grace but God did not abolish the law in the new testament, He came to fulfil it. Matthew 5:17 New International Version (©1984) "Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them. You can't say "oh we live by grace now, we can ignore the law of GRAVITY", we can try jumping down from buildings now since we are not under the law. That's wrong, the LAW still applies. It's there to guide us There are three aspects of the law: the principle of the law, the commandments of the law, and the rituals of the law. If you do not differentiate between these three things, you will never have a proper understanding of the law. We know, the principle of the law is over. Today, in the dispensation of grace, God does not deal with us according to the principle of the law; rather, He deals with us according to the principle of faith. Whether or not we shall be justified, saved, and accepted by God depends on the principle of faith, not the principle of the law. As long as we have faith in Christ, we are justified by God, accepted by Him, and saved. This is what it means for the principle of the law to be abolished in Christ under the dispensation of grace. Although the principle of the law has been abolished, the commandments of the law have not been annulled. Instead, the standard of these commandments has been uplifted. Thus, the commandments, related to the moral standards, have not been abolished; they will remain for eternity. Even for eternity we should not worship an idol, murder, steal, or lie. In His heavenly kingdom the King has uplifted the standard of the law in two ways: by complementing the lower laws and by changing the lower laws into higher laws. In this way the morality in the commandments of the law has been uplifted to a higher standard. The kingly Savior Himself kept all the commandments of the law when He was on earth. Then He went to the cross to die for us. Through His substitutionary death, He fulfilled the law on the negative side. Furthermore, through His substitutionary death, He released His resurrection life into us, and we now have this resurrection life in our spirit. Because we are able to live by this resurrection life, we have the strength, ability, and capacity to have the highest standard of morality. As we walk according to the spirit (Rom. 8:4), we fulfill the righteous requirements of the law, fulfilling even more than the law requires. Therefore, we do not abolish the law; rather, we fulfill it in the highest way (This is why we live by a living Person not dead letters). The third aspect of the law is the rituals of the law. For example, offering sacrifices and keeping the Sabbath are outward rituals of the law. These rituals were also terminated because they were part of the old dispensation of shadows, figures, and types, all of which have been fulfilled by Christ as the reality. We are no longer obligated to observe the rituals of the law. Therefore, the principle of the law and the rituals of the law have been terminated, but the commandments of the law, which require a high moral standard, have not been terminated. Rather, these commandments have been uplifted. By means of Christ as the resurrection life in our spirit, we can fulfill the standard of morality required by the higher law of the kingdom of the heavens. |
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Is someone who had sex b4 marry is do irreversible sin and will be in hell?
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QUOTE(WintersuN @ Apr 10 2012, 04:52 PM) 30 “Therefore, you Israelites, I will judge each of you according to your own ways, declares the Sovereign LORD. Repent! Turn away from all your offenses; then sin will not be your downfall. 31 Rid yourselves of all the offenses you have committed, and get a new heart and a new spirit. Why will you die, people of Israel? 32 For I take no pleasure in the death of anyone, declares the Sovereign LORD. Repent and live! |
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