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 SAMSUNG GALAXY TAB Official Thread V1, ..best and most portable Android tablet

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post Feb 20 2011, 01:31 PM

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My Tab is always with my Melkro book casing. It can still fit nicely in my 3/4 shorts and long pants ( old man type ) side pockets. Those who like to wear jeans might have a problem
If I go out for longer period, I always carry a sling bag.

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QUOTE(benny888 @ Feb 20 2011, 01:31 PM)
My Tab is always with my Melkro book casing. It can still fit nicely in my 3/4 shorts and long pants ( old man type )  side pockets. Those who like to wear jeans might have a problem
If I go out for longer period, I always carry a sling bag.
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How that Melkro book casing looks like?
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post Feb 20 2011, 02:09 PM

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QUOTE(Lennox @ Feb 20 2011, 01:52 PM)
How that Melkro book casing looks like?
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My reply to you post #244 page 13 pics posted
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post Feb 20 2011, 02:11 PM

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@benny888
I noticed that you mentioned 4 advices to a fellow forumer to improve performances and one of it is related to rooting.

Lets assume I performed a root and later I do not touch any other settings after rooting, will there be performance improvements? (Sorry I am still very new and still trying to catch up with android related stuff)

I have already dumped the Touch WIZ UI and using Zeam launcher now and it is much smoother than before but I still see the smoothness can be improved.
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post Feb 20 2011, 02:19 PM

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Rooting is just like a key to a closed door. The door is now open . If you don't go in nothing new will happen
You need to install apps that required root to enhance performance or upgrade kernel/roms

Rooting alone doesn't bring performance increase and it will not affect your present o/s

please refer http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/1759952 the galaxy s II thread post#4 i have given links to bettrr understsnd rooting

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Announcing my new ROM...

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post Feb 20 2011, 03:13 PM

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@benny888
I'm going to give it a shot at rooting and installing custom roms.

I have read through the thread considerably and also read the xda-developers forum link that you have put up.

However, I do have a few questions.

1) Is there a "Correct" rooting method? I used to use an iphone and there were a few "Jailbreak" methods that would cause ur phone to be unable to update your firmware anymore. Wonder if this is applicable to Android? Cause I notice there is "Manual" rooting and "Easy" rooting

2) What should I prepare and do before rooting? I'm using stock rom and I bought my tab from Maxis. What program should I use to backup my stuff?

3) I noticed the heavily discussed custom rom is Overcome and Modocco? Which is better ? (I'm a new user btw so just let me know which has better performance).

4) Will updating to a custom ROM disable me from updating to a newer version of OS in the future? (Eg: Gingerbread / Honeycomb? )

5) Also, I noticed in the FAQ at xda developers they mentioned that these custom ROMS have regular updates and the updates can be done easily without hassle (just update it online and done). Is this applicable to Modocco and Overcome?

6) You mentioned that after rooting, I need to install apps to enhance my tab's performance. Do you have any recommendations for this that would bring "huge" performance increase?

Thank you for your input and feedback. Trying to research as much as possible in order not to brick my tab. I understand that bricking happens only when you screw up the bootloader (or was it kernel?) and only certain actions will do that. However, would just like to understand further to avoid the problem from happening
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A very good info from this link:

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=933400
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post Feb 20 2011, 04:01 PM

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QUOTE(kelvin_tan @ Feb 20 2011, 03:13 PM)
@benny888
I'm going to give it a shot at rooting and installing custom roms.

I have read through the thread considerably and also read the xda-developers forum link that you have put up.

However, I do have a few questions.

1) Is there a "Correct" rooting method? I used to use an iphone and there were a few "Jailbreak" methods that would cause ur phone to be unable to update your firmware anymore. Wonder if this is applicable to Android? Cause I notice there is "Manual" rooting and "Easy" rooting

2) What should I prepare and do before rooting? I'm using stock rom and I bought my tab from Maxis. What program should I use to backup my stuff?

3) I noticed the heavily discussed custom rom is Overcome and Modocco? Which is better ? (I'm a new user btw so just let me know which has better performance).

4) Will updating to a custom ROM disable me from updating to a newer version of OS in the future? (Eg: Gingerbread / Honeycomb? )

5) Also, I noticed in the FAQ at xda developers they mentioned that these custom ROMS have regular updates and the updates can be done easily without hassle (just update it online and done). Is this applicable to Modocco and Overcome?

6) You mentioned that after rooting, I need to install apps to enhance my tab's performance. Do you have any recommendations for this that would bring "huge" performance increase?

Thank you for your input and feedback. Trying to research as much as possible in order not to brick my tab. I understand that bricking happens only when you screw up the bootloader (or was it kernel?) and only certain actions will do that. However, would just like to understand further to avoid the problem from happening
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1. You can try the easiest method Z4root first. If yours is a Malaysian set, most probably you need to use SuperOneClick. If you need to use S1C, make sure your Tab can be detected by your PC as most failures are due to such failure

2. Rooting will NOT spoilt your TAB> No need to worry about it. Just in case, make a backup copy of your important files/data which you keep on internal SD card. As your TAB is not rooted yet, you cannot use any 3rd party apps to backup yet - another good reason why you should root it

3. Both Overcome and Modaco are EXT4 based roms. I have explained about this in my blog why one should consider switching to EXT4:
http://leemn.wordpress.com/2011/01/27/gala...daco-rom-beta1/
As a new user, I'd suggest first that you do not consider these roms. Stick to roms that still use the default Samsung's proprietary RFS file system. Rotohammer JMI is a good start - please refer to the quick guide I have posted in post # 3 to the links. REMINDER - when you flash a different rom, ALL your apps/data will be wiped out clean

4. NO ; you can always revert back to original before upgrade to the newer offerings. Anyway I believe the rom cooks will be offering their own versions of HC and GB too

5. YES - updates are easily done . EXT 4 based - just flash from recovery , no need to use Odin on PC. RFS based - still need Odin on PC

6. After rooting - the biggest improvement are in kernel changes and customized roms.
Minor improvements are in apps related to changing system settings - eg setcpu ( cpu tuning ) , battery life improvement apps - several available, disable ads on apps, voice activated google navigation, backup and restore apps with tweaks, apps to improve performance - cache etc, access to more free and paid apps in paid apps market etc

Make sure your TAB has good charge before attempting flashing, I'd suggest a minimum 50%. Bricking TAB is unlikely as most users here will confirm. If it does happen, don't panic - we will try to help. As long as you follow instructions closely you will be fine. Ask and clarify first before start. Read the XDA forums about other user attempts

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wow.. active community here tongue.gif
im a tab user since january!
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post Feb 20 2011, 07:50 PM

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QUOTE(myzer0 @ Feb 20 2011, 07:46 PM)
wow.. active community here tongue.gif
im a tab user since january!
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Welcome, so now 95 tab user. Let's hit 100 tabber thumbup.gif
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post Feb 20 2011, 07:52 PM

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QUOTE(myzer0 @ Feb 20 2011, 07:46 PM)
wow.. active community here tongue.gif
im a tab user since january!
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Thanks. Updated you as user. Please help to spread word about this thread. We need more active participants to share their experience using this marvelous tablet
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post Feb 20 2011, 08:20 PM

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@benny888
help me put my name in the list as well tongue.gif been using it since November last year.

Anyway, for your point 1 where I need to use S1C, what do you mean my computer can detect my tab? I just plug the USB connector to my PC and see whether it can be detected issit? Or do I need Samsung KIES?


Added on February 20, 2011, 8:31 pmBTW Benny888, I just went through your blog link you posted and noticed that you changed your file system from RFS to EXT4 before flashing the modaco ROM.

This part is new to me. What happens if you flash a ROM that is based on EXT4 but your current file system is using RFS?

Luckily I went through it before I started doing anything.

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post Feb 20 2011, 09:49 PM

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QUOTE(kelvin_tan @ Feb 20 2011, 08:20 PM)
@benny888
help me put my name in the list as well tongue.gif been using it since November last year.

Anyway, for your point 1 where I need to use S1C, what do you mean my computer can detect my tab? I just plug the USB connector to my PC and see whether it can be detected issit? Or do I need Samsung KIES?


Added on February 20, 2011, 8:31 pmBTW Benny888, I just went through your blog link you posted and noticed that you changed your file system from RFS to EXT4 before flashing the modaco ROM.

This part is new to me. What happens if you flash a ROM that is based on EXT4 but your current file system is using RFS?

Luckily I went through it before I started doing anything.
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Yes just connect with PC. If PC not able to detect you will see error message. In this case please refer my posts # 3 for possible solutions

KIES actaully when you install will install the samsung usb drivers but KIES is buggy. Dunno why many PC Windows system fail to install drivers. KIES is necessary if you need it to sync with your PC your data. Other than this is not necessary. Infact most users dump KIES as it is miserably slow synching

Modaco rom is ext4 based - you need change fs to ext4 first. If you flash it on a rfs fs it cannot be done as it is installed through recovery not thro odin. If you have a recovery program installed ( example chainfire or kousch) even using thee recovery to install will fail

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@benny888
I'm set to go then.

Final question which was not answered. Modaco vs Overcome. Which one?

I wont be sticking to roms that still use the samsung's default properties. Lets just say when I decide to do something, I push it. Otherwise why do it at all? smile.gif

I'll learn along the way haha.. thanks a lot
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QUOTE(kelvin_tan @ Feb 20 2011, 09:52 PM)
@benny888
I'm set to go then.

Final question which was not answered. Modaco vs Overcome. Which one?

I wont be sticking to roms that still use the samsung's default properties. Lets just say when I decide to do something, I push it. Otherwise why do it at all? smile.gif

I'll learn along the way haha.. thanks a lot
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ASs stated before, both are equally good. Up to you. Overcome has better features and well recommended by many. I choose Modaco because I want to use his online kitchen, Checkup the rom details and see which you prefer
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Just watched a video of a person using Overcome Rom with Modaco Kernel. Somehow the person pointed out that everything is very very smooth EXCEPT games.

The person noticed that the games performance actually dropped compared to using the stock rom and kernel. There is laggyness now compared to before. Any experience on this benny ?
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QUOTE(kelvin_tan @ Feb 20 2011, 10:44 PM)
Just watched a video of a person using Overcome Rom with Modaco Kernel. Somehow the person pointed out that everything is very very smooth EXCEPT games.

The person noticed that the games performance actually dropped compared to using the stock rom and kernel. There is laggyness now compared to before. Any experience on this benny ?
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Sorry never really tested this rom ; only a brief less than half day/ Perhaps other forumers can feedback - quite few using this rom. And I don't play games on the TAB so cannot comment on gaming issues. Flashing is darn easy using recovery. Just try out - one man's meat is another man's poison
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post Feb 20 2011, 11:21 PM

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haha alright. Anyway I have been wanting to ask this for a while already.

Most of us treat our tabs as treasures I believe? Anybody actually dropped it from a height of more than 1 meter? I've been trying to find video's on the stress test of galaxy tab but somehow its always about the gorilla glass only.
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QUOTE(kelvin_tan @ Feb 20 2011, 11:21 PM)
haha alright. Anyway I have been wanting to ask this for a while already.

Most of us treat our tabs as treasures I believe? Anybody actually dropped it from a height of more than 1 meter? I've been trying to find video's on the stress test of galaxy tab but somehow its always about the gorilla glass only.
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You can try biggrin.gif
I do remember i read a post before, cant remember is from LowYat.net or XDA. A guy who drop his tab while he trying to on/off some switch, and his tab goes DEAD cool2.gif

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