Introduction of Proton Saga / Iswara

The Proton Saga is the first car produced by Malaysian auto manufacturer Proton, based on the 1983 Mitsubishi Lancer Fiore. It first debuted in September 1985. The first Proton Saga that rolled off the production line was presented to the Malaysian National Museum as a symbol of the beginning of the Malaysian automotive industry.

Since then, the Proton Saga and its variants contributed to most of Proton's sales and revenues. The Saga variants are also popular among Malaysian taxi drivers and operators who need cheap vehicles with good fuel economy. The Saga is currently the longest surviving brand in a line of cars offered by Proton.

Saga / Iswara Owners List

1. kahheng (29/09)
2. chowdm
3. singchaii (16/09)
4. apache_utara
5. the_catacombs (15/09)
6. feralee
7. blackpc
8. domo_kun
9. bukanmain
10. ~Battousai~
11. ceo684
12. edtan5
13. Tainted
14. Xefron
15. RoxyMunky
16. keith121284
17. mengfui
18. hamiru
19. KeV
20. batista_beast (retired member. Now a BMW enthusiast)
21. kudepadi
22. eXpert
23. dcarbon AKA (yongfei)
24. bullet
25. lov3too4ll
26. daktzuk
27. elaineliew88
28. UnCleHenG
29. kevinlim001
30. airpool2407
31. jabelix
32. zhixin
33. CerealKiller
34. sonic_darkknight
35. leinnz
36. nightzstar
37. bjay1482
38. HughieRmX
39. popopi
40. xacrifizer
41. sonicscourge
42. kenzo
43. bryanhkc84
44. icyd
45. mickeywjy
46. andychan (31/8)
47. ronaldet
48. Gilbert5107(13/9)
49. stanum
50. jenniferyoke(19/10)
51. -pWs-
52. tysern
53. joekang86
54. dopeisgood
55. neosaint99
56. wkho555 get car on 11/10/07
57. flyingteeku
58. darude87
59. quick_shaq
60. stupidbump
61. carcraze66
62. how to save a life
63. kakashixws
64. XG.
65. chicaman
66. yewwing
67. neshh
68. virginslayer
69. ThanatosSwiftfire
70. kabyss87
71. firdz
72. ahseng84
73. englandcaptain
74. Anthony87
75. PureGeek
76. allenyip
77. PinkyWhite wub.gif
78. IcEMoCHa
79. felix5152001
80. shiinkuro31
81. lwc1989
82. Calvin
83. mE_duNNo
84. Halia_Merah
85. godspeeds
86. long_con
87. Nskyline
88. heavencloud
89. lkylyk
90. evoluzzion
91. Shawnzz
92. alexwsk
93. Maksimum
94. samosa
95. faidzal1982
96. Hikaru Kenshin
97. lennon_87
98. reuben_1991
99. aichiban
100. ibnuasad
101. juniorkirk
102. aidil_fahmi
103. rozz_1291 (current TS)
104. JJTam
105. ravemaster222003
106. eggtart
107. yOuNg$tEr
108. zyde
109. x_suncai
110. HoobastanK(2)
111. ronzai89
112. lengchai86
113. nap2617 aka Rudy
114. GMS FearLess A.K.A HighRevSAGA
115. Arcsaber
116. UranusFoo
117. riduanteo
118. id86
119. Black Panther
120. napoli26
121. dakwan5555
122. mls_ gamer
123. johannemiir
124. Zack Styler
125. joshgm_119
126. shawns
127. TWLOH
128. Irenicus_extr
129. kellefe
130. touge_ke70
131. hamster9
132. cyclone61
133. 91jude
134. macho_siot
135. beastiex
136. Yashiro
137. Reizz
138. bobfuzie
139. Strawberry<3
140. evolution120
141. chris3k6
142. mchlkeys
143. taitianhin
144. Shafique
145. newaythem3
146. zax1116
147. Notoriez
148. jezztanjl
149. mizi28
150. layeong
151. Cyril
152. Alex_tan168
153. jackchong890
154. StarburstMz
155. Ah Hei
156. Chan320
157. Babyiswara
158. sinister_sid
159. stasis21
160. GTL
161. nookie7
162. wct
163. unxeen888
164. omgkenny
165. n3w
166. fleekreturn
167. Peekab0o

Do PM me if ur name is not listed!

This post has been edited by rozz_1291: Jun 10 2011, 01:44 AM

Tyre & Rim Info
1) PCD
-> stands for pitch circle diameter, numbers of bolts on the wheel
-> got a few PCD types: 100 (eg: wira, honda), 114.3 (eg: saga iswara, satria neo), 110 (kancil), etc.


2) Offset
-> distance from the center of the rim to the attaching disk part
-> normally can be adjusted using spacer


3) Spacer
-> a round piece of metal that has holes on it, the function is to avoid/adjust the wheel from rubbing the arch/fender
-> got few sizes/thickness
-> if u r using 8 holes rim sure need to add spacer on the front

4) 14" or 15"
-> i prefer 15" bcoz 14" less choices for performance tires tongue.gif

5) Best PCD and offset
-> 114.3 and 38-40 (need check with sifoo..)


Credit goes to: Killer
LYN Proton Saga/Iswara Drivers' Forum Rules n Regulations
Following rules are being implemented to prevent any unhappiness arise during discussion.

Rule 1:
This is not a trading thread. Any trading activities must be done in discreet. Use PM la!

Rule 2:
This is not a place for u to show off. Respect all saga/iswara driver if u doesn't own a saga/iswara but u wish to join our thread please respect all others member. Do not make statement like "This car doesn't deserve any modification". If u don't like us don't join our discussion. We also not welcome u to make any statement to show off here.

Rule 3:
All other LYN rules applied in this Forum too.

These rules and regulations has to be followed by existing and new members. Any unsatisfaction and comment pls PM me and allow me to discuss with all senior members before the rule is being change or new rule being implement.

Extra information on warranty issues:

Warranty FAQs
1. What makes the warranty contract null and void?
For details, please refer to your PROTON Service Booklet under Section 4 of Warranty and Limitation of Liability. However, PROTON reserves the right of final decision on all warranty claims.

2. What is covered by the warranty?

Subject to terms and conditions, PERUSAHAAN OTOMOBIL NASIONAL BERHAD (referred as PROTON) warrants that any items of the "Basic Warranty and Specific Warranty" of the new vehicle manufactured by and for PROTON shall be free from any defects in materials and workmanship of these warranty covered by new vehicle limited warranty will be repaired or replaced free of charge by any PROTON's authorised distributors or dealers.

Basic Warranty items

The basic warranty items that are any items of the new PROTON vehicle (except the Specific items and the Special transacted items*) are warranted to 24 months or 50,000 kms, whichever comes first.

Specific Warranty items

The specific warranty items listed below are warranted to 12 months or 20,000 kms, whichever comes first.

*
Battery (for Diesel - 6 months)
*
Exhaust
*
Injection nozzle for diesel powered vehicle
*
Glow plug for diesel powered vehicle

Special Transacted items*

The concerned manufacturer for Clarion radio cassette and speakers warrant the special transacted items.

3. What are the other types of warranty offered by EON?
Parts Warranty is given to all parts purchased at EON service network for 6 months or 10,000 kms, whichever comes first.

Rust Proofing Warranty is given to all PROTON vehicles, which are treated with anti-rust spray for 6 years from registration date.
4. Can I use my own lubricant/engine oil at EON Service Centre?
Yes. EON will not be responsible for any problem arising from the usage of other brands other than our recommended lubricant/engine oil.

5. Is it important to use genuine parts?

Yes, it is important that you use PROTON genuine parts and accessories.

This will ensure that the original vehicle specifications are maintained and that the replacement parts meet the same high standards as the vehicle original equipments. This will also ensure the vehicle compliance to the government regulations relating to vehicle safety and environmental controls. The use of parts that do not conform to the correct specification may cause damage to the vehicle and could also invalidate the terms of the warranty.

credit goes to Kevin

USUAL PERFORMANCE UPGRADE FOR SAGA/ISWARA

Intake
1. High Flow Open Pod (from rm50 onwards) or Drop In Air Filters (only K&N available, rm215)
2. Due to the bad placing of the stock air intake resulting in hot air being sucked, it is recommended to add a Cold Air Intake. Various types of hose available for this DIY upgrade. Position the intake in front of the radiator, and you will definitely gain valuable power and better the fuel consumption!

Exhaust
4-2-1 Tuned Length Extractor (from rm400 onwards) for high exhaust flow with minimal restriction & power increase. Use cap ayam brand and you will end up with power loss instead.

Ignition
1. Performance spark plug cable (from rm50 onwards). Recommended brands are the like of RAM and Pro Rallye. They say thick cables produce bigger spark which results in better combustion=more power=better fuel consumption. Some reported radio interference. However most enthusiast remain skeptic and stuck with the stock plug cable. So you decide.
2. Side gapped spark plug. This is a cheap performance upgrade. Your standard spark plug's electrode is shaved away to provide a bigger 'open' spark. It is also recommended to 'index' the spark plug so that when it's plugged in, the spark area will directly face the combustion chamber. Downside is, the plug will not last as long. Again, most enthusiast remain skeptic. http://performanceunlimited.com/documents/...idegapping.html

Engine
1. Port & Polish Engine Head (from rm400~rm1500). Smoothen the rough internals for better air/exhaust flow & power increase.
2. High Performance Camshafts (from rm600~rm1500). Modified camshafts profile can ensure more air-fuel mixture to reach the cylinder at the correct timing resulting in horsepower & torque increase.
3. Lightened Crank Pulley (from rm200~rm650). Release loss horsepower due to heavy stock crank pulley. Better acceleration and fuel consumption. Revs drop faster though. Enthusiasts are still arguing about rubber dampened or non-dampened crank pulley. Again, you decide.

Handling
1. Suspension (from rm500~RM2000). Depending on your budget and liking, you can opt for sports short stroke absorber coupled with sports spring or go for semi-adjustable absorbers. Be aware that this upgrade will cause uncomfortable ride. Brands like APM Performax cost about rm500 while adjustables from GAB or Improve will set you back about rm1500.
2. Chassis Stiffening Bars (from rm150 onwards). Front stabiliser bar, fender bars, lower arm bar, rear strut bar, etc will help the car reduce its flex during heavy corners and help the suspension keep the tires planted to the tarmac. The more bar installed, the more solid the ride. Not to mention they will add to the weight as well.

Brakes
1. Double Layer Brake Servo (from rm100 onwards) - This half cut item is popular among enthusiasts. A great help to improve stopping power. However idling will be a bit rough. Sourced from VR4, Pajero or Honda SM4.
2. High-Temp Brake Pads (from rm120 onwards) - Higher temperature handling will avoid the risk of fading brakes during aggressive or mountain driving. At the moment, Rapid Stop pads is the way to go.

Featured Car in SIE

Monster ride in this thread; the_catacombs' ride (aka SkYwAlKeR)


Uranus Foo


rozz_1291


Yewwing


This post has been edited by rozz_1291: Apr 28 2011, 06:25 PM

Member's Ride(hidden monster non monster)

Kevin's LMST



shiinkuro31's ride

eXpert

Gilbert5107

yewwing

Shawnzz

Zhixin


This post has been edited by rozz_1291: Apr 28 2011, 04:09 AM

rozz_1291's ex ride

godspeeds

sjz

ronaldet

Shafique

juniorkirk

Chan320

GMS fearless

Notoriez

dakwan


This post has been edited by rozz_1291: Mar 9 2011, 01:28 AM

stasis21


n3w


fleekreturn


Peekab0o


sinkalan sinister_sid


This post has been edited by rozz_1291: Jun 11 2011, 03:04 AM

Members Engine Bay:

the_catacombs:


Twin DCOE:


wkho555's DGAV:


Siapa punya???


andychan:



rozz_1291's ex engine bay:


Uranus Foo's 4G93T monster powered by microtech!


rozz_1291's 4G61 Factory stock


This post has been edited by rozz_1291: Apr 28 2011, 06:22 PM

~Reserved~

~Reserved~

Now can start posting edi..... Enjoy guys...

add me in...proton iswara year 1995..white colour=)

2nd...to lipoting in 2011 tered....

pls change dat paliah car photo... now my car much more nicer d...

wah....

im need wait feb to get pt and use some of it to change cosmetic looks........

Lol... gimme the link to the new pics of yours lor....

actually its still paliah looking now.. haha.. deww u curi snap so many my car photo, choose from there la..

I'll post up the 1 dat day we go pasang emanage ok boh???

fruh~
not bad get post 18#~

so fast in new tread

reporting in

Wah what happened i day lazy v23 d ka hey rozz put i want my pic can ah ?

Reporting in

Saga Iswara bodykit how much?

Later i want to post my engine bay can ar?

fuhyoo.. sudah transform..

zeno sure got new toyol inside his engine

anyone sifu here can show me where and how to change oil seal valve for our iswara? heard using 12cm spanar?

u mean valve seal ahhh???....

quite complicated steps wor... u need special tool also... not just a 12cm spanar...

demm...semalam kerete stuck at beach sand pantai klebang..........

luckily have experience to handle this situation......

oh.. new thread liao~~ must suppork a bit..
post 1

finally i found where to change timing belt......
near super cowboy market at malim.....

charge Rm40??

sound fishy la.........

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Added on January 23, 2011, 9:35 amya lorr......tayar tenggelam.......sand meet underchassis.... ....summore at night...

This post has been edited by GMS FearLess: Jan 23 2011, 09:35 AM

Haha...i ever encounter that once,playing drifting in the sand
but after i stuck just reverse out then go slow slow

my car too overpower untill tyre spinning.....

sien.
I so upset.
I can't find the custom made rubber seal for my iswara.
haiz..
those accessory shop chop ppl d.
F*ck them la.
Online sell RM30 they sell RM100 $%^&*
I hate shops.
Now I duno whr to get rubber seal.
Sien.

stick to original one.....can get at spare part shop as low as RM25

bro can tell me whr to get that price?
I damn du lan those shop in subang .
Bs price.

tampin.NSembilan

wat? so far zzzzzzz


btw can anyone tell me whr is the air cond hose?
I want to wrap it to insulate to make air cond colder.



which hose?

This post has been edited by heavenly91: Jan 23 2011, 06:28 PM

change bigger compressor lar....

anyone know to to remove the thermostat?
where to buy toyota coolant?

bo lui bro.
I am just a student..
nvm la I will just use the insulator method.
It seems to work well with other ppl

A1:me
A2:spare parts shop@toyota SC

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Added on January 24, 2011, 12:28 amfind the pipe that connected to ac compressor....feel & find that cool pipe and warp it...

This post has been edited by GMS FearLess: Jan 24 2011, 12:28 AM

that hose is to vacuum line from ur intake manifold laa... that is also the vacuum hose to tap when u wanna install vacuum gauge....

i wan DIY ^^
how to remove and where is it?

remove what ???? if u remove the pipe all gas pecut come out 1 wor
if want diy find the two pipe at the right end touch and feel the cold 1

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Added on January 24, 2011, 12:29 pmgo subang jaya ss15 same row with the magnum,toto,da ma chai 4d betting shop, huan leong spare part shop
ask him
say 1 fat young fella aways kacau him and drive saga recommend you
if u shy i help u ask in this few days

This post has been edited by sinister_sid: Jan 24 2011, 12:29 PM

give me ur engine bay pic......distributor side...

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Added on January 24, 2011, 1:09 pmhe wan cabut thermostat la...not acc pipe...

This post has been edited by GMS FearLess: Jan 24 2011, 01:09 PM

i'm late....R3 saga lmst reporting in

how to improve the engine respond with air cond switch on
my engine when switch on air cond damm lousy
i 24/7 run around with window down
guess i am a convertable guy
that day go kepong and come back switch air cond (got leng lui ma) damm lousy even myvi olso hard to tembak
nyama damm malu
biasa without air cond like superman

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Added on January 24, 2011, 1:58 pmwhat thermostate ???
got other thermostate other than the cooling system meh ????

This post has been edited by sinister_sid: Jan 24 2011, 01:58 PM

acc compressor bunyi....low of lubricant...go service and put oil in compressor.......


thermostat is coolant flow controller and it have certain temperature to activate it...........thermostat uses as valve to flow coolant....example..... when ur car in cold condition....the thermostat will closed and will not go to radiator and recirculate until it hot...when hot enuff...it will opned and coolant flow through radiator...

not bunyi but switch on air cond like no power and lost 1 cylider

i know that themostate but u say the other thermostate the fella who want diy ??????

http://img692.imageshack.us/i/imagessn.jpg/


hi sifus i bought this lmst headlamp
juz received it but i noticed no bulb is it easy to put the bulb in ? thank you all for support !!

very easy
easyier than work and get scold by boss and get pay check then pay petrol
take out the rubber behind
get h4 bulb

errr just say fat guy?
zzzz
no name ah?
ah fat or ah kau or ah chu?

bro I check hor the pipe go under the engine there how la?
deng lo I have to cabut the whole engine just to insulate the pipe meh? zzz

You guys can go and check ah? =(

p.s I adi wrapped the one with yellow color hose with aluminium foil d.
later oni will see the effect cz now no nid go out.

This post has been edited by heavenly91: Jan 24 2011, 06:15 PM

din know so easy xD thanks.. will try it tonight still haven go home yet

This one spoil will affect anything?

1.5 block with stroker kit... confirm feels better one...

wrap aircond pipe ahh??... no difference one laaa... add additional fan in front of ur aircond condensor better...

dat stupid thing spoil no difference laa... cut away the hanging loose part so it wont flap around at high speed... if not later u complain ur car got weird sound pulak at high speed...

correksyun!!!!!not under but inside


This post has been edited by GMS FearLess: Jan 24 2011, 09:09 PM

Hello, can someone enlighten me what is the arrow-pointed screw used for? Previously when I saw my mechanic turning that when I told him I had knocking in my engine. However, that screw when I turn it around it seems like just loose the whole throttle assembly.

(Btw, also the others circled parts so far I learned, I only know the blue one is for controlling how much 'rev' when the engine is engaged in choke mode. Others I don't really know )






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Saga LMST got R3 bodykit?

how much would it be for autochoke new one? or halfcut or recond? my autochoke not working for a long time... feel wanna change it ~~! iswara a/b

that arrow bolt is to hold the whole throttle spindle and hold back spring together... dat one is not the place to control ignition timing...
yes, blue one is to control autochoke...
circled red is to control where the throttle spindle should stop in relation to the butterfly flap inside the carburetor... most of the time u dont need to kacau that unless u modify the butterfly flap inside... coz if u loosen it, the butterfly flap will scratch against the venturi when u release the throttle...
circled white no idea... should be useless...

the white 1 is for older saga manual choke

white is vacuum for intake....that place i tarik for vacuum meter....

http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=1731578

im selling off my ipod touch 32GB for RM900.
include delivery for member.

Brand new

gilbert...you have SIE stickers stoks??

got.... left 1pc.

spare 4 me one.....you custom made??maybe i need two......

Salam satu malaysia!

guys how much does it cost to get the fan belt replaced?
the squeaking sound is getting me worried

RM12bux w/o installation labor charges.

Salam peksan maliii.....

fan belt 18 buck misuboshi oem 1
bearing 18 buck

okay just found out theres nothing wrong with the belt
somehow water got into the belt past few days ago
now it's all normal
anyway reporting in as saga owner lol

hai every one.. v23 already..

Hello!

Pek san, what is pek san?

Hai

just a new comers...just looking around here

How come u look so familiar??? Its like I've seen this nickname b4.

Your MSN is joe_fbi1@hotmail.com rite???

cum cum pek san~

i need help by sifu, can show me where the ignition timing located? and knocking sound how do i need to solve it? by clockwise or anticlock? i forgot where d ignition timing lcoated. and how to tune it.

hai.. any one can help me to mod B13 side mirror base to fit my iswara.. long time already bought it but at nilai no one dare to mod the base..

got some1 in setapak can mod the base for it. Nilai? Seramban got 1 workshop do those. but i dunno which area of seremban. i heard it from SIC kaki's

reporting in last....

find body workshop
basic mod
mod from jantan socket to betina or vice versa

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Added on January 27, 2011, 12:22 am


This post has been edited by sinister_sid: Jan 27 2011, 12:22 AM

Come cameron peksan.

Looking at the distributor, clockwise to advance. Anticlockwise to retard.

hi to all...
i had encounter a problem wit my car..
the odometer has gone 'kong' oledi...
the needle does'nt show how fast did i accelerate...
how can fix this problem??must change to new one ka??