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 The Watch Thread v3, Affordable or not depends on individual

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fluffy6640
post Nov 8 2011, 12:44 PM

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QUOTE(frostfrench @ Nov 8 2011, 12:29 PM)
this is so nice.  Which red army u get it from and how much?  tongue.gif
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thanks! got it from RAW in SG, approx 700SGD. laugh.gif


Added on November 8, 2011, 12:46 pm:purely discussion purposes:

guys, i've been looking at the omega speedmaster professional online, and im amazed by it. any experiences on getting a pre-owned one? new one? is it worth getting a pre-owned one?
saw one in watatime, it retails at Rm13k++. not sure how much the discount is tho.

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post Nov 8 2011, 01:24 PM

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QUOTE(patryn33 @ Nov 8 2011, 01:42 AM)
this yr LVMH friends and family sale looks late, usually with the event items are at 50% off.
I wonder how much discount AD has given.
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post Nov 8 2011, 01:46 PM

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fluffy, I too have been browsing the net for the moon watch. Definitely one of my targets in the future. I would go for something used but in excellent/mint condition, usually can find them on the bay or WUS and TZ sales fora for around USD2200 - 2600, which is a minimum 35% discount from retail.
The 3570.50 is the most popular model with hesalite crystal, but if you can find the discontinued 3572.50 (transparent caseback with sapphire crystal) it is quite collectible and can fetch a better price on the used market.
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post Nov 8 2011, 01:58 PM

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fluffy6640,

One of our forummers (chriscym) got one off ebay not too long ago. You might wanna pop him a PM if you're considering getting pre-owned.

For the 3570, might be able to get a good deal on pre-owned since they're fairly new and abundant. Scratches on the hesalite can be polished out so don't be too worried about it.

Or you can just jump straight to a cal. 321 brows.gif
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post Nov 8 2011, 03:16 PM

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thank you both for the info! im still trying to identify each and every speedmaster there is. hehehe.

@deriku

all the while i've been drooling over all the seamaster , now after seeing the speedmaster in person, all i do online is stalking it. haha.

can i generally say that the speedmasters have a lower pre-owned price tag compared to the seamasters?

@Chinoz

ah, shall PM him to get some info and what to look out when trying to get a pre owned. hehe. thanks!
before i take some time to gather info on their diff calibers, is the 321 the best? haha. i assume cos of the brows.gif hahaha

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post Nov 8 2011, 03:44 PM

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For a quick comparison, a SMP chrono (not PO) retails at slightly less than 12k, a Speedy is 13k. A used SMPC may go for around 7.5k, while a late model of the Speedy pro may easily fetch 8k or higher. So I think both hold their values pretty much the same.

However I cannot say whether it is the same for the non-chrono SMP or the PO series as I do not follow the prices as closely.


Added on November 8, 2011, 3:48 pmCalibre 321 was the movement used by the pre-moon Speedy, up to 1968 or so. It was later on replaced by the 861 and then the 1861 which can be found today's modern Speedy.

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post Nov 8 2011, 04:40 PM

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QUOTE(fluffy6640 @ Nov 8 2011, 03:16 PM)
@Chinoz

ah, shall PM him to get some info and what to look out when trying to get a pre owned. hehe. thanks!
before i take some time to gather info on their diff calibers, is the 321 the best? haha. i assume cos of the  brows.gif hahaha
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Wouldn't say it's the best, but it is the definitive one that went to the moon heh.
For reliability and servicing convenience, the c1861 (found in modern day 3570s) IMO would be much better.

Maybe a 3570 now and a ST105.012 sometime down the road? tongue.gif
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QUOTE(alvizz @ Nov 8 2011, 01:07 AM)
Hi guys, newbie for watch, looking for metal types instead of leather. budget below 1k watch... any suggestion?
shop for few mall but still no idea~~
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Tissot? Orient? Seiko?
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post Nov 8 2011, 05:49 PM

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QUOTE(deriku @ Nov 8 2011, 12:13 PM)
The watch shops you see in malls are typical ADs (authorized dealers). Grey dealers usually sell on the net. See link below for more info.
http://www.chronocentric.com/watches/graymarket.shtml

ML Pontos chrono by local grey dealer at ~5.2k.
http://collectorstime.com/maurice-lacroix.php
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Hi,

So does that mean its trustworthy to buy grey items via reputable online stores?

Because the price from grey vs AD are kinda huge.
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post Nov 8 2011, 05:54 PM

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QUOTE(Kerry1136 @ Nov 8 2011, 05:49 PM)
Hi,

So does that mean its trustworthy to buy grey items via reputable online stores?

Because the price from grey vs AD are kinda huge.
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Yes, if buy from reputable grey, i.e. collectortimes
Be aware some brands does not honour the warranty if buy from grey.
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post Nov 8 2011, 06:18 PM

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Thanks, I'll just get it off from AD instead since I can try em on and such.

Any other particulars I should look at such as serial number on watches, warranty cards etc?

Any particular reputable shop to go to at KL/PJ area?

At the moment I'm looking at;
http://www.oris.ch/collections/collections...=en&modelid=436

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post Nov 8 2011, 07:44 PM

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wann ask all the sifu here, will it be cheaper to get IWC in UK or in KL?
how much discount will i get if buy from the shop in pavilion?
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post Nov 8 2011, 08:18 PM

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Kerry1136,

Usually I just make sure that the serial on the watch matches that of the warranty card. If you're buying new from a reputable seller, I think that's about it. If you're buying a bracelet watch, make sure they return you the extra links after resizing.

d_lai_309,

I suspect KL will be cheaper since there's no tax. IWC boutique is giving 15% last I asked.
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QUOTE(iVW @ Nov 8 2011, 08:32 AM)
i would go for non-chrono one. best suit in most occasion.
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QUOTE(greyshadow @ Nov 8 2011, 09:10 AM)
I would go for a chrono, as it's best suit for almost any occasion

i wouldn't wear a dress watch for a sport events tongue.gif
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Thanks guys...looks like I have a 50/50 feedback...have tried them both and still quite unsure which to take home...if only I could buy both...

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post Nov 9 2011, 09:26 AM

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QUOTE(deriku @ Nov 8 2011, 03:44 PM)
For a quick comparison, a SMP chrono (not PO) retails at slightly less than 12k, a Speedy is 13k. A used SMPC may go for around 7.5k, while a late model of the Speedy pro may easily fetch 8k or higher. So I think both hold their values pretty much the same.

However I cannot say whether it is the same for the non-chrono SMP or the PO series as I do not follow the prices as closely.


Added on November 8, 2011, 3:48 pmCalibre 321 was the movement used by the pre-moon Speedy, up to 1968 or so. It was later on replaced by the 861 and then the 1861 which can be found today's modern Speedy.
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QUOTE(Chinoz @ Nov 8 2011, 04:40 PM)
Wouldn't say it's the best, but it is the definitive one that went to the moon heh.
For reliability and servicing convenience, the c1861 (found in modern day 3570s) IMO would be much better.

Maybe a 3570 now and a ST105.012 sometime down the road? tongue.gif
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thanks for the info again guys..hehe. after oogling at POs and speedys so much, decided to watch Casino Royale last night. im still happy there was no laser shooting out of it or anything like that. laugh.gif

well, for now i'll be checking out the 3570 for sure! hehee. thanks again icon_rolleyes.gif

some eye candy..hehe
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post Nov 9 2011, 11:47 AM

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Want to join the speedy craze rclxms.gif
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post Nov 9 2011, 11:55 AM

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Here's a shot of my watches in chronological acquisition order.

Seiko Kinetic from 1996 (First serious watch, needs servicing)
Seiko Chronograph from 2009 (Previous Beater)
Tissot Chronograph from 2009 (Fiancee's)
Tissot Visodate Heritage 1957 from September 2011 (Dress watch)
Omega Seamaster Professional 2220.80 from October 2011 (Grail)
Seiko Sports 5 SRP153J from November 2011 (Beater)


Would love to see everyone's collection!

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post Nov 9 2011, 03:43 PM

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i...cant...stop....drooling..... haha!


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i...cant...stop....drooling..... haha!
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You know where to get it tongue.gif
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post Nov 10 2011, 09:56 AM

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QUOTE(Kerry1136 @ Nov 8 2011, 06:18 PM)
Thanks, I'll just get it off from AD instead since I can try em on and such.

Any other particulars I should look at such as serial number on watches, warranty cards etc?

Any particular reputable shop to go to at KL/PJ area?

At the moment I'm looking at;
http://www.oris.ch/collections/collections...=en&modelid=436

or

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from AD don't have to worry, they dare not Screw up.
grey - most grey watches warranty are not covered by brands, however if U pay $$ to fix it they will still do it

get it from grey that has 30 day return policy if U are worried.
other grey that is good
- proworth.com
- thewatchery.com
- ashford.com

I would go for the below over oris, not really worth the extra $$ for a similar brand name.
http://www.timepiecestore.com/catalog/4420...-men-watch.html

for quality over brand this is my choice.
http://guinand-watch.com/index.php?option=...=170&Itemid=408

that ML pontos was going for alot less awhile ago. back alittle plain for my liking
http://www.watchseller.com/maurlacmasla.html
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the RGM equation of time is a cool complication
http://www.watchseller.com/eqoftimlimed1.html

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