huh? I tot it was a discussion.. i'm not sure which part is nasty comment.. lol

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Added on January 11, 2011, 10:35 amwell, if flash cannot use, have to buy big aperture lens lor.. what to do... what skill can replace big aperture and flash?

and also, u have to buy tripod also...

in the end, we have to buy buy buy....

This post has been edited by gogo2: Jan 11 2011, 10:35 AM

Anyone can use a big aperture lens and flash to shoot a decent pic. It takes skills to get a decent pic without having to resort to using big aperture lens and flash isn't it?

When all you have is super duper gears and someone take away your super duper gears, you're done! Finished! And time to say sayonara. If you have skills then you simply pick up another cam (does not matter whether it's top range or entry level) and continue shooting and still deliver decent results. That's what matters.

yeah, actually i'll be finish.... i have to resort to put my camera on the bench...

anyway, i no posting here liao... got people butthurt if we start to have debate... lolol

Merajuk pulak... come on... no need to butthurt wan.

*watching from the sidelines*

Pls dont warn me...but I can't stop laughing on this ROFL

Well. my limitation is currently my skill.
and I doubt upgrading my gear by change body into an awesome D3x or even 1Ds Mark III will actually increase my photography performance.

that's the reason I ask you to define your good picture bro

Yeahh.! the is the best I'd say

i like ieR and Sam's post. my photos come out well most often because of flash, so far 3 flash units and gonna be increasing.

btw Sam, how have you been? long time no see oh.

Do you need D3x to learn?
I think I need D3x, 70200, 85mm, 50mm, 200mm, 24mm,11-24 tokina. To start learning.
What do you think??

wouldn't my dad chop my head off?

This post has been edited by aldosoesilo: Jan 11 2011, 11:12 AM

butthurt liao... got warning frm other member... so i need to shuddup liao

i think you're rich

skills and money aside, i need a strong and a very fit right hand too to carry all those big gears.

even rich people have a brain don't they?

would throwing RM 50k++ to start learning. what a brainless human

This post has been edited by aldosoesilo: Jan 11 2011, 11:13 AM

Depends on what you guys wanna shoot. I don't see Nex-3 as a limitation to me and it serves me well in getting pictures I want.

As for gear upgrades, I personally believe it's all about satisfaction. You feel boring and wanna upgrade, go for it. Not really related to skill, I have seen some rich people bought good gears but the pic.............. *ehem*

I have skill and Nex-3 just enough for me. My 2 cents.

Well, if he got the money, he got an edge on the vast amount of choices he can have.

The main question is, does a lot of choices make you feel happier or otherwise, more stressful, because there are so many choices, that you are so confused, which lens for what kind of
photography. Sometimes, the more gears you have, the more temptation and the harder you want to make a decision.

Let's say a guy who only carry a 50mm all day long, and another guy who shoot with 3 lenses - UWA, Prime and Tele. Probably both have an equal satisfaction, because guy A would have tried to think "out of the box" to explore some creative side of photography that he has never tried before, and simplicity made him a happier person. Or otherwise guy B would have feeling so stressful with his shooting because there are so many lenses to choose from, and because lacking of understanding on his shooting style, being indecisive of the lens to choose, or he would feel happy, because he has the freedom to choose whatever style he feels best at that point of time.

This post has been edited by geekster129: Jan 11 2011, 11:20 AM

having those many lens will it affect the quality of 'good picture'?
well. define it 1st I guess.

how about creating a poll "Define good picture"

yeah, I agree is brainless. To have great photography, we just need dSLR body but necessity
lens and flash. Then you're good to good....

necessity stuff is something people call gear here... I believe people will label it as upgrade or
gear if its not body + kitlens..

but to me, body+kitlens itself is not enough...

we need range of lens and flashes...

This one is an age old question... tried asking this before but no conclusive answer.

Which is right.. since it means different things to different people.

beauty is in the eyes of the beholders...

that's why we're still debating here...lol

Or rather... lets ask this question... if you're going on a trip and limited to only a single body+len.

What would you bring?

Edit:
I post about this countless time di... unlike most folks.. I don't have the luxury of bringing a whole arsenal of lens on my trips. What I've learned is to make do with what's mounted on the camera.


This post has been edited by sniper on the roof: Jan 11 2011, 11:28 AM

If you were to ask me what a good picture, all I can say is, you just can't please everyone. 6 out of 10 might agree that is a good picture. The other 4 may say the picture is rubbish!

Everyone has different taste.

Just like when you think that the girl looked pretty, but your friend may think that you have a bad taste. Something like that.

This post has been edited by geekster129: Jan 11 2011, 11:29 AM