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samlee860407
post Jan 11 2011, 09:53 AM

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adui....why these days this forum so many heated discussion one?

BTW, yes, i am using a L lens, and yes my skill still sux, but i enjoy using it because my other lens is prime lens, and i don't like the color outcome of it, and yes, i am quite stupid to skip kit lens tongue.gif


Added on January 11, 2011, 9:54 amand btw, i find that my best upgrade is still the flash lol.

btw, i do believe in few things

1) sux skill person using sux tools = sux outcome
2) sux skill person using great tools = might or might not get better outcome
3) awesome skill person using sux tools = good outcome
4) awesome skill person using great tools = awesome outcome

no matter it's painting, music, photography, driving.

another example is like

you ask Michael Schumacher drive kancil at sepang, and ask alex yoong drive a F1 car at sepang. who will win leh?

PS:

I gona change my example a bit:

if Michael Schumacher (awesome skill) drive kancil (sux tools) VS alex yoong (normal skill tongue.gif) drive F1 car (great tools). Alex Yoong will win

BUT

if I (sux skill) drive F1 car (great tools) vs Michael Schumacher (awesome skill) drive kancil (sux tools). Who will win? I don't know. Maybe I can't even control the car, so I still lose. Maybe I can control the car but using 10% of it's performance, then maybe I can win.

Hence the outcome of sux person using great tools is = might or might not get better outcome

This post has been edited by samlee860407: Jan 11 2011, 10:11 AM
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post Jan 11 2011, 10:12 AM

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QUOTE(kurtkantoi @ Jan 11 2011, 10:03 AM)
Spot on..I like your example..so Schumacher is the winner is it?  whistling.gif
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QUOTE(gogo2 @ Jan 11 2011, 10:04 AM)
can I answer the easy question!!!!

Alex Yoong... sweat.gif


Added on January 11, 2011, 10:04 am
ini..ini.. trolling answer..  rolleyes.gif
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I think new example is better.....

if Michael Schumacher (awesome skill) drive kancil (sux tools) VS alex yoong (normal skill tongue.gif) drive F1 car (great tools). Alex Yoong will win

BUT

if I (sux skill) drive F1 car (great tools) vs Michael Schumacher (awesome skill) drive kancil (sux tools). Who will win? I don't know. Maybe I can't even control the car, so I still lose. Maybe I can control the car but using 10% of it's performance, then maybe I can win.

Hence the outcome of sux person using great tools is = might or might not get better outcome
samlee860407
post Jan 11 2011, 10:57 AM

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QUOTE(sniper on the roof @ Jan 11 2011, 10:56 AM)
Merajuk pulak... come on... no need to butthurt wan.

*watching from the sidelines*
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Pls dont warn me...but I can't stop laughing on this ROFL
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post Jan 11 2011, 11:33 AM

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QUOTE(goldfries @ Jan 11 2011, 11:05 AM)
i like ieR and Sam's post. smile.gif my photos come out well most often because of flash, so far 3 flash units and gonna be increasing.

btw Sam, how have you been? long time no see oh.
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I am still on my not-so-discrete way on taking pictures (with big annoying flash) at restaurants lol.

rarely go down KL these days though sad.gif

PS: still pixel peep and hate noise although when resize most of the time they are negligible but well...

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post Jan 11 2011, 11:36 AM

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QUOTE(gogo2 @ Jan 11 2011, 11:28 AM)
trip is different. Trip is memory. Just take only. Creativity can stay behind. I don't think i'll take bokeh pics when I stand
in front of Taipei 101... lol..

to answer ur question, i'll probably just bring my m43 with pancake.
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I gota agree with you on this lol

PNS is so small, light, no need worry where to put when dining or not taking photos, no need sked people target your gear, even if lost also not so heart pain....

but sometimes when want take picture (especially my food) in dark dark restaurant...man, i will had wish my DSLR with me...after that, i will hate it lol.

how ungrateful of me lol
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post Jan 11 2011, 11:42 AM

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QUOTE(aldosoesilo @ Jan 11 2011, 11:31 AM)


I'd say.
Upgrading gear (change body + change lens + having flashes) will make you a great photographer.
w/o doubt.


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Wrong. Upgrading gear won't make you a great photographer.

it might or might not make you a better photographer.

again using cars for example.

A person is driving a Auto Vios at sepang, give him better car such as porsche boxter manual. Can he record a faster lap time?

The outcome is still unknown. The person might not known how to dive a manual, or even if he know, but handling a rear wheel drive car is so different. He might spin out and have an accident. Of coz he might get better lap time....

But definitely yes, a person with normal or good skill, giving a better gear, his picture will most likely improve

QUOTE(goldfries @ Jan 11 2011, 11:37 AM)
hehe. i shy shy blasting flash at restaurant.

btw what we learn from sifu Chua that time was useful. smile.gif
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Same...esepcially dining as those finer restaurant with romantic setting. But then sometimes I saw people using PNS take pictures, got flash also ma (just that not so annoying) so i don't care liao lo . haha

yea....learn alot from him although those few flash setup and strobe still kinda underutilized by me sad.gif

 

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