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zy_xcup
post Apr 23 2011, 11:08 AM

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"It appears that there's a big power management regression in the Linux kernel for the 2.6.38 and 2.6.39 development releases, including the kernel to ship with Ubuntu 11.04 next week. It's reportedly causing a 10~30% increase in power consumption on many laptop computers."
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anyone else feeling this?

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post Apr 23 2011, 11:28 AM

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Nope. I've used 2.6.32, 2.6.35, 2.6.36, 2.6.37 and 2.6.38. I get similar battery life on all of these. Didn't try 2.6.39 tho 'coz liquorix sauce is still on 38 tongue.gif
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post Apr 23 2011, 12:58 PM

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hmm.. maybe some people feels like its eating their battery then..
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post Apr 23 2011, 04:14 PM

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or maybe my lappy was never optimized for those power management in the 1st place sweat.gif
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post Apr 28 2011, 05:22 PM

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Hi guys.
I haven't been around for the last couple of weeks, so I apologize if I missed any questions addressed to me. Just let me know if I missed anything.


Also, I have a question.
Any of you guys run Linux on new Sandy Bridge chipsets? I'm building a rig, and am wondering if I should bother adding an Nvidia card. I don't play games, and the only use for a gfx card would be VDPAU acceleration for HD videos, but seeing as the new Core i5/7 chipsets already have very decent acceleration, I'm thinking a separate GPU isn't needed.

I know early Sandy Bridge performance was buggy, but I'll be getting a mobo with an updated BIOS/UEFI (after the recent recall) and will also be running a new kernel.

Can someone kindly point me to some Sandy Bridge reviews for Linux that are NOT from Phoronix? (I don't hate Phoronix, but I'm more interested in daily real world usage, not isolated benchmarks)

Thanks in advance.
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post Apr 28 2011, 09:49 PM

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QUOTE(G-17 @ Apr 28 2011, 05:22 PM)
Hi guys.
I haven't been around for the last couple of weeks, so I apologize if I missed any questions addressed to me. Just let me know if I missed anything.
Also, I have a question.
Any of you guys run Linux on new Sandy Bridge chipsets? I'm building a rig, and am wondering if I should bother adding an Nvidia card. I don't play games, and the only use for a gfx card would be VDPAU acceleration for HD videos, but seeing as the new Core i5/7 chipsets already have very decent acceleration, I'm thinking a separate GPU isn't needed.

I know early Sandy Bridge performance was buggy, but I'll be getting a mobo with an updated BIOS/UEFI (after the recent recall) and will also be running a new kernel.

Can someone kindly point me to some Sandy Bridge reviews for Linux that are NOT from Phoronix? (I don't hate Phoronix, but I'm more interested in daily real world usage, not isolated benchmarks)

Thanks in advance.
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G! as per my sig, everything just perfect on suse and I don't see any slight issues with it. My mobo does not have any visual port to try the built-in video accelerator, so I don't have any say on that. Currently using nvidia proprietary certified driver for my card thumbup.gif

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post Apr 28 2011, 11:10 PM

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QUOTE(powerwoot @ Apr 28 2011, 09:49 PM)
G! as per my sig, everything just perfect on suse and I don't see any slight issues with it. My mobo does not have any visual port to try the built-in video accelerator, so I don't have any say on that. Currently using nvidia proprietary certified driver for my card  thumbup.gif
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Thanks for the info, PowerMan~!!
Didn't notice your sig before this. Have to say, that's a mighty nice Power Supply Unit you have there.
I'm probably getting a Seasonic X-560W for this new rig I'm building. Seasonic FTW!! biggrin.gif
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post Apr 28 2011, 11:48 PM

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QUOTE(G-17 @ Apr 28 2011, 11:10 PM)
Thanks for the info, PowerMan~!!
Didn't notice your sig before this. Have to say, that's a mighty nice Power Supply Unit you have there.
I'm probably getting a Seasonic X-560W for this new rig I'm building. Seasonic FTW!! biggrin.gif
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The PSU bought from one of the seller here in LYN at the price of RM3xx, a derivative model from PC Power and Cooling model Silencer 750 Quad (Black) very quiet PSU I can say. Since this model is not a modular, got so many unused cables that needed to rolls here and there.
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post Apr 30 2011, 11:15 AM

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I finally managed how to get all cores on my i7 laptop working w/o HyperThreading on thumbup.gif

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post Apr 30 2011, 05:26 PM

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QUOTE(zy_xcup @ Apr 23 2011, 12:58 PM)
hmm.. maybe some people feels like its eating their battery then..
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in fact, yes.. i do feel kernel 2.6.38-8 pae drains more power from my laptop battery. or may be it's just me....

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post Apr 30 2011, 10:22 PM

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QUOTE(FlameReaper @ Apr 30 2011, 11:15 AM)
I finally managed how to get all cores on my i7 laptop working w/o HyperThreading on thumbup.gif

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Look gooding, what apps command is that? tongue.gif

edited: ahh never mind just found it.

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post May 9 2011, 06:35 PM

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something wrong with my fedora 14. it just doesnt load up successfully after i restarted my laptop (2 weeks without restarting). i can see the loading screen and it seems to load up successfully but it just stay like that without login prompt
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QUOTE(dimenxion @ May 9 2011, 05:35 PM)
something wrong with my fedora 14. it just doesnt load up successfully after i restarted my laptop (2 weeks without restarting). i can see the loading screen and it seems to load up successfully but it just stay like that without login prompt
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try booting in recovery mode.

as in no loading screen.
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post May 13 2011, 07:06 AM

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hi, i got a problem here..
my pulseaudio didn't working

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scorps@scorps:~$ pulseaudio -D
E: main.c: Daemon startup failed.
when i try to open he pulseaudio manager, it's said access denied

what should i do?
already reinstall the pulseaudio package, but still not working ..
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post May 13 2011, 04:20 PM

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@scorps
What packages did you install?
For pulseaudio on Debian (and possibly Ubuntu and other Debian stepchildren), this is the absolute minimum you need, as far as I know (just pulse and basic libs .... no plugins, bluetooth, etc). For ArchLinux or Gentoo, you find the current libsdl via pacman/portage. Not sure about other distros yet.

As root (or sudo);
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apt-get install pulseaudio paprefs pavucontrol pulseaudio-module-hal pulseaudio-module-x11 pulseaudio-utils libasound2-plugins paman pavumeter pulseaudio-esound-compat libpulse0 libsdl1.2debian-pulseaudio


You should also have something like this added to your /etc/asound.conf (ref: Debian Wiki)
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pcm.pulse {
   type pulse
}

ctl.pulse {
   type pulse
}

pcm.!default {
   type pulse
}

ctl.!default {
   type pulse
}


If you still can't get it to work, I suspect a permissions problem, or maybe false detection of your sound hardware. If so, do this in terminal and paste output here;
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cat /proc/asound/cards


Some further reading: (credit: #! forums)
http://pulseaudio.org/wiki/PerfectSetup
http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?t=12497

Edit:
...and if you still get permission errors (ie: Access Denied), try reading this (it's a 3 yr old article, though)
http://tuxicity.wordpress.com/2008/03/15/d...nd-pulse-audio/

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post May 13 2011, 10:52 PM

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QUOTE(G-17 @ May 13 2011, 05:20 PM)
@scorps
What packages did you install?
Edit:
...and if you still get permission errors (ie: Access Denied), try reading this (it's a 3 yr old article, though)
http://tuxicity.wordpress.com/2008/03/15/d...nd-pulse-audio/
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it's work good until i accidentally turn off the internal sound server ..
but i'm using usb sound card,
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root@scorps:/home/scorps# cat /proc/asound/cards
0 [NVidia        ]: HDA-Intel - HDA NVidia
                      HDA NVidia at 0xfc480000 irq 20
1 [S51            ]: USB-Audio - SB X-Fi Surround 5.1
                      Creative Technology SB X-Fi Surround 5.1 at usb-0000:00:02.0-5, full speed
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post May 14 2011, 10:40 AM

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yo scorps, what distro ?
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post May 14 2011, 01:51 PM

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QUOTE(fat16 @ May 14 2011, 11:40 AM)
yo scorps, what distro ?
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debian
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root@scorps:/home/scorps# aplay -L
null
    Discard all samples (playback) or generate zero samples (capture)
default:CARD=NVidia
    HDA NVidia, CONEXANT Analog
    Default Audio Device
front:CARD=NVidia,DEV=0
    HDA NVidia, CONEXANT Analog
    Front speakers
surround40:CARD=NVidia,DEV=0
    HDA NVidia, CONEXANT Analog
    4.0 Surround output to Front and Rear speakers
surround41:CARD=NVidia,DEV=0
    HDA NVidia, CONEXANT Analog
    4.1 Surround output to Front, Rear and Subwoofer speakers
surround50:CARD=NVidia,DEV=0
    HDA NVidia, CONEXANT Analog
    5.0 Surround output to Front, Center and Rear speakers
surround51:CARD=NVidia,DEV=0
    HDA NVidia, CONEXANT Analog
    5.1 Surround output to Front, Center, Rear and Subwoofer speakers
surround71:CARD=NVidia,DEV=0
    HDA NVidia, CONEXANT Analog
    7.1 Surround output to Front, Center, Side, Rear and Woofer speakers
iec958:CARD=NVidia,DEV=0
    HDA NVidia, Conexant Digital
    IEC958 (S/PDIF) Digital Audio Output
default:CARD=S51
    SB X-Fi Surround 5.1, USB Audio
    Default Audio Device
front:CARD=S51,DEV=0
    SB X-Fi Surround 5.1, USB Audio
    Front speakers
surround40:CARD=S51,DEV=0
    SB X-Fi Surround 5.1, USB Audio
    4.0 Surround output to Front and Rear speakers
surround41:CARD=S51,DEV=0
    SB X-Fi Surround 5.1, USB Audio
    4.1 Surround output to Front, Rear and Subwoofer speakers
surround50:CARD=S51,DEV=0
    SB X-Fi Surround 5.1, USB Audio
    5.0 Surround output to Front, Center and Rear speakers
surround51:CARD=S51,DEV=0
    SB X-Fi Surround 5.1, USB Audio
    5.1 Surround output to Front, Center, Rear and Subwoofer speakers
surround71:CARD=S51,DEV=0
    SB X-Fi Surround 5.1, USB Audio
    7.1 Surround output to Front, Center, Side, Rear and Woofer speakers
iec958:CARD=S51,DEV=0
    SB X-Fi Surround 5.1, USB Audio
    IEC958 (S/PDIF) Digital Audio Output
i think i disable this thing >>>
CODE
 IEC958 (S/PDIF) Digital Audio Output


i already copy paste pulseaudio files from Live session but still not worked icon_question.gif
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post May 15 2011, 01:44 AM

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Guys, how to check whether i'm using integrated GPU or discrete GPU? Any command?
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post May 15 2011, 11:54 AM

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QUOTE(Acid_RuleZz @ May 15 2011, 01:44 AM)
Guys, how to check whether i'm using integrated GPU or discrete GPU? Any command?
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Your options are :-
  • Open your cpu and look
  • Check your lshw. It should tell you the card model. You be able to find out from there
I honestly think just opening it up is easier.

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