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post Oct 13 2011, 09:25 AM

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QUOTE(farkinid @ Oct 12 2011, 02:44 PM)
On a TOTALLY different topic, am I the only person who finds this funny?

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any recommendation for IM apps? something that integrate well with scrotwm yet works behind proxy well
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QUOTE(fJok3R @ Oct 16 2011, 11:12 AM)
any recommendation for IM apps? something that integrate well with scrotwm yet works behind proxy well
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All i know is that pidgin works with Tor hmm.gif
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QUOTE(fJok3R @ Oct 16 2011, 11:12 AM)
any recommendation for IM apps? something that integrate well with scrotwm yet works behind proxy well
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Depends on your protocol. If you're on Jabber (Google Talk), then Mcabber should be a viable solution. It's my primary IM client these days mainly because of its support for OpenPGP encryption. Not sure how well it works behind a proxy though, but there's this bit in the default config file:

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# Proxy
# mcabber can use a proxy if it supports the CONNECT method
# The proxy_user/proxy_pass variables are optional.
#set proxy_host = "192.168.1.1"
#set proxy_port = 3128
#set proxy_user = "username"
#set proxy_pass = "password"


You'll definitely need to do some reading to get it working, and you'll probably need to spend a bit of time getting used to the bindings and idiosyncrasies. It also doesn't have any default notifications, but I've set up a simple script to play a sound each time I get a message, so I'm sure you can do the same.
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post Oct 17 2011, 12:24 AM

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QUOTE(G-17 @ Oct 16 2011, 09:10 PM)
Depends on your protocol. If you're on Jabber (Google Talk), then Mcabber should be a viable solution. It's my primary IM client these days mainly because of its support for OpenPGP encryption. Not sure how well it works behind a proxy though, but there's this bit in the default config file:

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# Proxy
# mcabber can use a proxy if it supports the CONNECT method
# The proxy_user/proxy_pass variables are optional.
#set proxy_host = "192.168.1.1"
#set proxy_port = 3128
#set proxy_user = "username"
#set proxy_pass = "password"


You'll definitely need to do some reading to get it working, and you'll probably need to spend a bit of time getting used to the bindings and idiosyncrasies. It also doesn't have any default notifications, but I've set up a simple script to play a sound each time I get a message, so I'm sure you can do the same.
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at last, something that works! proxy in my uni is such a pain in the arse, i still cant axel anything for a proxy with authentication
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post Oct 22 2011, 04:07 AM

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QUOTE(G-17 @ Sep 24 2011, 10:20 AM)
Well, first we need to narrow it down a bit. Have you tried downloading a file of similar size via another client, or http direct download.
Try that first. I you still get an error relaged to drive space, then we'll know for sure the problem is not Transmission. Also worth checking where Transmission puts your torrent files into..
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Thanks for the suggestion, anyways i am now using another PC (Fedore 15) to download files.

My other question is: Is it safe to login as root in FreeBSD?
Will my FreeBSD get infected with rootkits? malware?



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post Oct 22 2011, 08:38 PM

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QUOTE(tanhks @ Oct 22 2011, 04:07 AM)
Thanks for the suggestion, anyways i am now using another PC (Fedore 15) to download files.

My other question is: Is it safe to login as root in FreeBSD?
Will my FreeBSD get infected with rootkits? malware?


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If you're new to FreeBSD, it's best to not login as root. It just brings unwanted risk and is potentially harmful (same goes for any distro) unless you really know what you're doing. Better to add your user to /etc/group (under Wheel) and use su or sudo. Su come with the system. Sudo you can get from ports.

Theoretically only rootkits might be a cause for concern on BSD systems. Not all rootkits are bad, though.
If you're really worried, try: http://www.freebsdsoftware.org/security/rkhunter.html (note: it gives a lot of false alarms)


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post Oct 25 2011, 01:02 PM

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QUOTE(G-17 @ Oct 22 2011, 08:38 PM)
If you're new to FreeBSD, it's best to not login as root. It just brings unwanted risk and is potentially harmful (same goes for any distro) unless you really know what you're doing. Better to add your user  to /etc/group (under Wheel) and use su or sudo. Su come with the system. Sudo you can get from ports.

Theoretically only rootkits might be a cause for concern on BSD systems. Not all rootkits are bad, though.
If you're really worried, try: http://www.freebsdsoftware.org/security/rkhunter.html (note: it gives a lot of false alarms)
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yeah the answer is correct, for local login, i think it's normal for using root and logout after use.. but for remote via ssh, default of FreeBSD doesn't allow direct root login, unless u're login using user id,a and that id must also belong to wheel group, so it can su to root. Any users which not belong to wheel group can't su to root, same like sudoers list. Bear in mind FreeBSD not using sudo, but like mr G-17 said, u can install it via ports or pkg_add.

1st and the most important thing is to patch/update your FreeBSD security bugfix/patch.. the easierst way and lazy too is using freebsd-update

I do write a How-To regarding this:
http://trunasuci.pbworks.com/w/page/463674...0FreeBSD-update



just my newbie opinion..
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post Oct 25 2011, 02:55 PM

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I can't decide where to put this question. Its either here or in the Tiling Window Manager thread. So, I'm just gonna do it here.

Has anybody use devilspie? I'm thinking of using it while using scrotwm but I don't know how it will interact with each other because of the workspaces/viewport differences.

I'm reluctant to try it on a production machine so I'm asking here first. Hopefully somebody has some idea
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Depends on what you plan to use it for. I only have limited hours with devilspie (and that was an older version). In the time I used it, I couldn't get it to apply transparency levels to certain (GTK) windows I wanted in Scrotwm, and eventually gave up. Didn't really see the need for it on a tiler.

Of course, your reasons for wanting to use it might be different. I'm a bit skeptical since ScrotWM uses a certain algorithm (study the source, very lean) to control window resizing, which might cause problems with devilspie. I suspect you want to launch apps in certain specific workspaces?... or maybe set rules for certain app windows to open at a certain size? If that's the case, I think a better solution would be to upgrade ScrotWM to 0.9.34 (snapshot source or git). it's got autorun functions to have certain apps launch in certain workspaces on start, and also has the very powerful (if a bit confusing) layout functions which you can use to preset layouts for each workspace (and I'm not talking about the simple horiz/vert/fullscreen layouts, but more cutomized types). See the layout section in the man page: https://opensource.conformal.com/cgi-bin/man-cgi?scrotwm

Not saying it's the answer you're looking for, but might be worth considering. I've seen some BSD people get some really sick workflow with a proper combination or autorun, layout and quirk functionality.

Apologies for not having enough experience with devilspie, though. Its a decent app for sure, but I just don't have much experience with it.

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post Oct 27 2011, 11:27 AM

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QUOTE(G-17 @ Oct 25 2011, 09:46 PM)
Depends on what you plan to use it for. I only have limited hours with devilspie (and that was an older version). In the time I used it, I couldn't get it to apply transparency levels to certain (GTK) windows I wanted in Scrotwm, and eventually gave up. Didn't really see the need for it on a tiler.

Of course, your reasons for wanting to use it might be different. I'm a bit skeptical since ScrotWM uses a certain algorithm (study the source, very lean) to control window resizing, which might cause problems with devilspie. I suspect you want to launch apps in certain specific workspaces?... or maybe set rules for certain app windows to open at a certain size? If that's the case, I think a better solution would be to upgrade ScrotWM to 0.9.34 (snapshot source or git). it's got autorun functions to have certain apps launch in certain workspaces on start, and also has the very powerful (if a bit confusing)  layout functions which you can use to preset layouts for each workspace (and I'm not talking about the simple horiz/vert/fullscreen layouts, but more cutomized types). See the layout section in the  man page:  https://opensource.conformal.com/cgi-bin/man-cgi?scrotwm

Not saying it's the answer you're looking for, but might be worth considering. I've seen some BSD people get some really sick workflow with a proper combination or autorun, layout and quirk functionality.

Apologies for not having enough experience with devilspie, though. Its a decent app for sure, but I just don't have much experience with it.
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You guess about my intention was spot on. Ok I'll just go take a look at upgrading my ScrotWM
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post Nov 22 2011, 11:55 PM

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post Dec 21 2011, 10:04 PM

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sometime when i enter poweroff at terminal , my netbook goes to reboot, not shutdown.. doh.gif
anyone know why this happened? thanks
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QUOTE(scorps @ Dec 21 2011, 10:04 PM)
sometime when i enter poweroff at terminal , my netbook goes to reboot, not shutdown..  doh.gif
anyone know why this happened? thanks
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Can be one of many reasons, really. Some people say this is KMS related, others have stated it's some other kernel parameter or ehci,, some have even suggested it's a bug in the way shutdown interfaces with some networking related apps (nm, for example). I can't say for sure unless you give a lot of details like lshw output, various logs, battery type (if notebook), kernel version, types of modules loaded...etc.

For now, try "shutdown -now -hP" to do a full shutdown. If that doesn't work, try "poweroff -fihp" or "halt -fihp" (as superuser/root).

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post Dec 22 2011, 04:05 PM

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QUOTE(G-17 @ Dec 22 2011, 03:36 PM)
Can be one of many reasons, really. Some people say this is KMS related, others have stated it's some other kernel parameter or ehci,, some have even suggested it's a bug in the way shutdown interfaces with some networking related apps (nm, for example). I can't say for sure unless you give a lot of details like lshw output, various logs, battery type (if notebook), kernel version, types of modules loaded...etc.

For now, try "shutdown -now -hP" to do a full shutdown. If that doesn't work, try "poweroff -fihp" or "halt -fihp" (as superuser/root).

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Interesting, your shutdown command switches and mine are different. Mine is usually
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sudoe shutdown -h -t 10 now

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Ahh, I typoed one of em. Added an extra dash

Should be "shutdown now -hP"

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Yours is technically the safer route, since you're telling init to wait 10 sec before sending a kill signal, giving time for some processes to disable themselves. But truthfully, once you're logged out of X and don't have something like GDM or KDM running in the background, you shouldn't need to. For @scorps, I just added a P to specify powerdown, since -h alone sometimes causes system to halt without actually powering down on some computers.
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QUOTE(G-17 @ Dec 22 2011, 05:08 PM)
Ahh, I typoed one of em. Added an extra dash

Should be "shutdown now -hP"

@farkinid
Yours is technically the safer route, since you're telling init to wait 10 sec before sending a kill signal, giving time for some processes to disable themselves. But truthfully, once you're logged out of X and don't have something like GDM or KDM running in the background, you shouldn't need to. For @scorps, I just added a P to specify powerdown, since -h alone sometimes causes system to halt without actually powering down on some computers.
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Hmm, the truth is, I give that 10 second wait because of my experiences with Windows. I have never given it much thought as to why I do it that way until you gave me perspective.
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QUOTE(G-17 @ Dec 22 2011, 04:36 PM)
Can be one of many reasons, really. Some people say this is KMS related, others have stated it's some other kernel parameter or ehci,, some have even suggested it's a bug in the way shutdown interfaces with some networking related apps (nm, for example). I can't say for sure unless you give a lot of details like lshw output, various logs, battery type (if notebook), kernel version, types of modules loaded...etc.

For now, try "shutdown -now -hP" to do a full shutdown. If that doesn't work, try "poweroff -fihp" or "halt -fihp" (as superuser/root).

Cheerz
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thanks for reply, i'm using latest liquorix kernel on my netbook


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i'm using latest Oshirix kernel for Kubuntu 1110. No more not able to shutdown problem.

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