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Acid_RuleZz
post Jun 17 2011, 03:18 AM

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Pulling that many packages.. scared it will brick my system. ph34r.gif

Download in progress..
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post Jun 17 2011, 03:23 AM

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QUOTE(Acid_RuleZz @ Jun 17 2011, 03:18 AM)
Pulling that many packages.. scared it will brick my system.  ph34r.gif

Download in progress..
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Thats what i went through but never break laugh.gif
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post Jun 17 2011, 04:19 AM

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Unsuccesfull. sad.gif
It enter fallback mode.

Uninstalling it now. Does Elementary OS support Gnome3? hmm.gif
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post Jun 17 2011, 06:24 AM

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elementary has their own Pantheon-Shell biggrin.gif


Added on June 18, 2011, 1:32 pmhttp://www.webupd8.org/2011/06/community-proposed-unity-design.html

Some new mockup of Unity that is yet to be proposed

Still cant get the hang of their vision hmm.gif

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post Jun 23 2011, 01:54 AM

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I just noticed my laptop speaker still producing sound even after i plugged in my headphone. Anyone else encounter this problem before?


Added on June 24, 2011, 4:14 amproblem solved. cheers.gif

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post Jun 27 2011, 02:31 PM

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so i have a question here, hopes forummer helps can helps,

1- x86_64 version of distro is 64bit right, so what is the advantages of x85_64bit over normal version (i686 as example) ?

2- says i have >4gb ram in the system, so theoretically not all 4gb ram is detected right, previously on fc14, i use pae kernel as suggested from my friend, but what is the best option here?
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post Jun 27 2011, 02:53 PM

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better dont use 64-bit. a lot of softwares dont support 64-bit natively or just port 32-bit to 64-bit. i dont know about other distro but ubuntu 32-bit support PAE which can utilise more than 4GB of ram. try to stick to 32-bit if u r using linux. iirc, normally server will opt for 64-bit
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post Jun 27 2011, 03:12 PM

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QUOTE(Fantasia @ Jun 27 2011, 02:53 PM)
better dont use 64-bit. a lot of softwares dont support 64-bit natively or just port 32-bit to 64-bit. i dont know about other distro but ubuntu 32-bit support PAE which can utilise more than 4GB of ram. try to stick to 32-bit if u r using linux. iirc, normally server will opt for 64-bit
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If you really wan the system to show > 4GB Ram better opt for bigmem/PAE kernel, instead of going for 64bit.
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post Jul 11 2011, 10:15 AM

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Ok guys, new question time.

I don't understand the initscript line :
CODE
case "$1" in


I know what 'case' does but I don't understand $1. When I open up all my rc0.d-rcX.d files, i find scripts with that code. I'm trying to write my own initscript but this has got me confused.

Anybody can explain to me? (I tried googling but I didn't understand the explanations) Simple terms pls. I am dense.
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post Jul 11 2011, 01:08 PM

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anyone can help me with this?

"nvidia is activated but not currently is used"

the laptop i have has two graphic. one is onboard intel and another is nvidia
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post Jul 11 2011, 01:08 PM

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@Farkinid
I'm by no means a schooled comp-sci person, so my explanation might not be "politically correct", in a sense.

It's basically a case statement. In a shell with functions the $1 (and other numbered variables) are usually positional or functional parameters/argument.

Some homework for you:
http://steve-parker.org/sh/variables2.shtml




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post Jul 11 2011, 02:33 PM

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Thanks G-17. I can't seem to brain this... yet....

Edit: AHA! I think you misunderstood me. I understand what variables are. The problem was that I couldn't find the definition for $0-$9. For example :

CODE
prob="I dunno LOL"
echo $prob

The result would be : I dunno LOL

My problem is that I can't find what echo $1 is. echo $1 results in empty.

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post Jul 11 2011, 08:47 PM

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@Farkinid
Can't really help unless you tell me more about the said script.

Basically, in grandma terms (cos I'm old), in order to echo $X, you need a corresponding $X case statement.

So the case "$1" you were talking about earlier is (in theory) what echo "$1" is trying to pull.

Sorry I can't explain this sort of stuff better. My case is somewhat like being self-taught on a piano. I can play just fine and am able to read sheet-music for myself, but if you ask me to teach someone, I'll struggle with the terminology and whatnot. >_<

Are you perhaps trying to awk something?
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post Jul 12 2011, 12:47 AM

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Hmm , anyone managed to get mocp to play m4a files ?
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QUOTE(cocooh @ Jul 12 2011, 12:47 AM)
Hmm , anyone managed to get mocp to play m4a files ?
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Oh, you mean songs from iTunes?
Not sure, mate. I'm proud to say that I've never ever owned an iPod nor have I ever bought any music from Apple. I hate proprietary formats.

Anyways, I seem to recall m4a requiring ffmpeg, so maybe you can apt-get/aptitude the moc-ffmpeg-plugin package and try.

Again, I'm not 100% sure. I only trust open formats, which is why I still buy CDs and convert myself with lame, or buy flac if the record-label/artist/vendor offers it.

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post Jul 12 2011, 11:25 AM

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QUOTE(G-17 @ Jul 11 2011, 08:47 PM)
@Farkinid
Can't really help unless you tell me more about the said script.

Basically, in grandma terms (cos I'm old), in order to echo $X, you need a corresponding $X case statement.

So the case "$1" you were talking about earlier is (in theory) what echo "$1" is trying to pull.

Sorry I can't explain this sort of stuff better. My case is somewhat like being self-taught on a piano. I can play just fine and am able to read sheet-music for myself, but if you ask me to teach someone, I'll struggle with the terminology and whatnot. >_<

Are you perhaps trying to awk something?
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I read that $0-$9 are special variables in bash. Therefore these variables are already set and cannot be changed. I just can't find a list that explains what they are.

Just like how $$ = PID of bash (i think), I'm trying to find that $0-$9 are. But the gods of google have deemed that this knowledge is to trivial and not worth the time of the googlebots.


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post Jul 12 2011, 09:37 PM

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Not quite. $0 - $9 aren't exactly "special parameters", meaning they don't have specific functions depending on number.They're just positional arguments. $0 is usually the name of the script. $1, $2, $3 etc is referenced to the positions in the command line.

Here's an example (coincidence cos I linked this to someone with a similar question a couple of weeks back ... lol):
http://bashshell.net/shell-scripts/positional-parameters/

If you need me to be more in-depth, I'm not quite confident I can explain precisely without meandering off-tangent (no, I didn’t actually misunderstand you the first time round) or limiting shell terminology. Tell you what, we can approach this 2 ways. I can't teach you how to cook dinner, but I can either cook dinner for you, or introduce someone who can teach you how to cook.

You (probably) won't learn much if it's the former, but it'll at least be a fix for the problem you're facing (if any). If so, post and link me to the scripts and I'll see what I can do.

If it's the latter, try reading this and see if you get your head around it:
http://www.gnu.org/software/bash/manual/bash.html
http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/linux/li...bash/index.html
http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/linux/li...ash2/index.html

Note: I'll be a tad busy this week, so apologies if I'm late with replying.

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post Jul 12 2011, 10:09 PM

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QUOTE(G-17 @ Jul 12 2011, 10:13 AM)
Oh, you mean songs from iTunes?
Not sure, mate. I'm proud to say that I've never ever owned an iPod nor have I ever bought any music from Apple. I hate proprietary formats.

Anyways, I seem to recall m4a requiring ffmpeg, so maybe you can apt-get/aptitude the moc-ffmpeg-plugin package and try.

Again, I'm not 100% sure. I only trust open formats, which is why I still buy CDs and convert myself with lame, or buy flac if the record-label/artist/vendor offers it.
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It worked icon_rolleyes.gif thx G-17

Hmm , is the command apt-get purge gnome is more effective or apt-get remove gnome* ?or any other commands ?
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post Jul 13 2011, 12:09 PM

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QUOTE(G-17 @ Jul 12 2011, 09:37 PM)
@Farkinid
Not quite. $0 - $9 aren't exactly "special parameters", meaning they don't have specific functions depending on number.They're just positional arguments.  $0 is usually the name of the script. $1, $2, $3 etc  is referenced to the positions in the command line.

Here's an example (coincidence cos I linked this to someone with a similar question a couple of weeks back ... lol):
http://bashshell.net/shell-scripts/positional-parameters/

If you need me to be more in-depth, I'm not quite confident I can explain precisely without meandering off-tangent (no, I didn’t actually misunderstand you the first time round) or limiting shell terminology. Tell you what, we can approach this 2 ways. I can't teach you how to cook dinner, but I can either cook dinner for you, or introduce someone who can teach you how to cook.

You (probably) won't learn much if it's the former, but it'll at least be a fix for the problem you're facing (if any). If so, post and link me to the scripts and I'll see what I can do.

If it's the latter, try reading this and see if you get your head around it:
http://www.gnu.org/software/bash/manual/bash.html
http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/linux/li...bash/index.html
http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/linux/li...ash2/index.html

Note: I'll be a tad busy this week, so apologies if I'm late with replying.
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Thanks man, your help is very much appreciated.

I guess I'm gonna have no more free time now. Gotta catch up on bash and XML.
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QUOTE(farkinid @ Jul 13 2011, 12:09 PM)
Thanks man, your help is very much appreciated.

I guess I'm gonna have no more free time now. Gotta catch up on bash and XML.
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Any purpose, or is it just a learning experience?

With regards to XML, it might sound like a cliche recommendation, but xml.com really does provide some great resources, especially for parsing (parser toolkits and the like) and stuff like that. You can also track down some Oracle case studies (yeah, I know Oracle is evil, but we'll ignore that for now) with the help of Google/Bing/DuckDuckGo.

You looking to build XML in Bash?... or C#?

If you want to learn at a more leisurely pace, you could always install OpenBox and hack away at teh rc.xml trying to build pipemenus. You'll be surprised how much you can learn from it, though not exactly network specialized (which I assume is your "genre" of preference)


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